Microsoft Urging Customers To Disable Windows Gadgets

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ravewulf

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I've got some CPU/RAM/GPU/HDD meter gadgets, but the absolute most useful one I've found is the Indexer Status gadget from Brandon Paddock (a MS employee who has worked on the Windows Search team). It shows the current status, total indexed items, pause/resume/max speed and settings buttons. I don't have the sidebar running very often, but it is useful enough when I do need it that I will be ignoring this security update.
 

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[citation][nom]leaderWON[/nom]people use these?[/citation]
Yup! I use the clock and the system monitor from lgogo on my windows 8 at present and I know serveral other people who use it.

But I like microsoft's idea .... "this could be exploited, so turn it off" ... I guess the next hotfix disables explorer.exe and the next after that will remove the mbr boot code
 

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[citation][nom]badaxe2[/nom]It's almost like they had this discussion in a board room meeting:Suit A: "So, we want less gadgets in Windows 8. Hell, we really don't want any. Capiche?"Suit B: "The people aren't gonna like that." Suit A: "Hmmm...true....well, lets just release a 'security' warning about how 'unsafe' they are."Suit B: "I like they way you think, sir."Suit A: "I know."[/citation]
I understand this is just a joke, but it's not likely that it is just cunning marketing ploy really
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If a bunch of Black Hats are about to do a conference and show up the actual security flaw then it's pretty much nailed on as a genuine threat
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At least MS do what they always do and what we have come to expect which is fess up quick, warn everyone in advance and get a patch ASAP, unlike the fruity opposition who's tactic for the same situation is ignore it, tell no-one and hope nobody notices
 
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Well MS a gadget was the easiest way to shut down Win8 with out 6 clicks/menus.
Maybe M$ was secretly bought by apple and their plan is to make all windows users rage quit and buy a Crapple.
 
Well MS a gadget was the easiest way to shut down Win8 with out 6 clicks/menus.
Maybe M$ was secretly bought by apple and their plan is to make all windows users rage quit and buy a Crapple.

winkey+C-settings-power-shutdown. although you can just hover the cursor on the right edge of the screen to get to settings

 

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[citation][nom]Rick_Criswell[/nom]The sidebar/gadgets that people install ceate the security holes/risks. Not the OS part itself. Microsoft has no controll over what you install. They can not constantly create security fixes for all of the gadgets that stupid people keep installing. From a security standoint is is much better to not let you install them at all.[/citation] Uh, no - you are quite wrong. ANY program can be a security breach. The point of a gadget or widget or APP from Microsoft (or Apple) is that the program has been vetted. Confirmed to not have malware, trojan, whatever.

This seems more like BS from MS as the gadget page is now a Windows8 page saying "FU!". There no longer the 29 BEST-OF gadgets, most from reputable companies.

It has little to do about security.
 

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Will find out on july 25 or 26 where there are going to demonstrate this security flaw. I never really was giddy about gadgets so its like meh.
 

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Because we want to focus on the exciting possibilities of the newest version of Windows, the Windows website no longer hosts the gadget gallery.

Gadgets installed from untrusted sources can harm your computer and can access your computer's files, show you objectionable content, or change their behavior at any time. If you are concerned about the safety of gadgets you’ve downloaded in the past, you can learn more about gadgets and steps you can take to protect your PC.

This is gone far enough for me I can see all my customers asking to downgrade to Windows 7 and I say most of them will be requesting it anyway after they use Windows 8 for 5 minutes.
 

You are partially correct.
The gadgets FROM Microsoft websites have been checked.
The gadgets available on thousands of other sites ? who knows what they contain in them and people see them ,download and install them without a thought about security, or what else they contain.
 

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Oh trust me when i say this but some of these gadgets from supposedly come from trusted sources yet some how your network activity is going haywire for no reason. hmmm hmmm hmmm.
 

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[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]Wait, wait. Microsoft creates "gadgets" to copy the feature-set/functionality of OS X' widgets. Promotes the feature and now is turning around and telling us to stop using the feature because its a significant security threat? You. Have. Got. To. Be. Frick'n. Kidd'n. Me. ...right? As an OS X user I admit, I like Windows' gadgets and I believe the appropriate thing for MS to do is to FIX the frick'n security hole. How 'bout that, eh?! No, no. "If you buy our new Windows H8te OS you're good-to-go". I call bullsh*t. Fix it MS.Next they'll be advising not to use the desktop or screen-savers because a security hole was found. I really hope I mis-read the article in my skimming of it. If this was Apple the haters would be cumming all over themselves in self-righteous glee. Frick'n disqusting.[/citation]
You may not want to believe it, but the truth is that the first widget was created by Microsoft (even though at the time it wasn't called widgets) in 1997 with the introduction of Active Desktop Items.
 

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I liked the gadgets at addagadget.com.

In any case, Microsoft is pushing people away from gadgets in favor of Metro, for better or worse, so chances are, some of the better gadgets will probably be converted to Metro apps that take full advantage of live tiles.
 

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[citation][nom]Rick_Criswell[/nom]Wow lots of bad reading comprehension going on.The sidebar/gadgets that people install ceate the security holes/risks. Not the OS part itself. Microsoft has no controll over what you install. They can not constantly create security fixes for all of the gadgets that stupid people keep installing. From a security standoint is is much better to not let you install them at all.[/citation]

I would have voted you up to erase your -1 until your very last statement.

That last statement is like throwing the baby out with the bath water...a "don't want to get hacked? Don't use the Internet!" if you will...

In any case, Microsoft as of late seems to have this habit of introducing new stuff and then discontinuing support for them shortly after...kind of like kids with new toys.

Examples:
Windows Meeting Space for Vista: discontinued in Windows 7
Essential Business Server 2008: discontinued when the Small Business Server 2011 products were released.
Windows Home Server: not 100% sure about this one, but the Windows Server 2012 SKU list seems to have shown that it's gotten the axe.
Windows Phone 7 and the no-upgrade-to-8 fiasco
Windows Ultimate Extras: Introduced with Vista Ultimate, discontinued in 7
 

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Oh, haters gonna hate.

I run a wicked 3D workstation and need several monitors unavailable anywhere else. I need to know what my GPU and CPU are doing and the gadgets for these meters are powered by Everest Ultimate, not some random douche on the Internet who wrote a cpu-meter gadget.

There's no security hole if you know what you're doing. If you download some crippy-crap gadget from the Internet, of course it could be anything and be a security leak. Research. Learn. Dont' fall victim to the "it looks cool!" mentality and just install stupid gadgets for the hell of it.
 


Most users, probably arround 90% (a guestimate ) have no clue at all about computers.
And will install anything that catches their attention, Toolbars,pointers weather updaters,IM clients,screen savers, etc... without ever even thinking about the security risks,viruses, trojans, or tracking software that comes with it.
It is like OOOHHH Shiney gotta have it.
They install it and a few days or weeks later forget about it and do it again.And again, And again.
Then they start to wonder why their computer is so slow and unresponsive.
Eventually they bring it to someone (people like ourselves) to have it fixed.
My sister-in-law is a perfect example.
last repair 3 weeks ago:
7 toolbars
3 weather gadgets
5 screen savers
27 game downloads
9 screen savers
5 Trojans
8 viruses
Microsoft update was turned off.
Avast was turned off.
Firewall turned off.
And she keeps all of her passwords to her vendors,email,ITunes,yahoo mail,chat,Pandora,everything stored on her computer so she dosent have to remember or type them in. She also does her banking online.
These are the people that Microsoft need to protect.
Your other points I completely agree with.
 


my favourite was when i worked for a bank and scanned most of the computers for malware they had a lot of porn related malware on them
 

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[citation][nom]Rick_Criswell[/nom]You are partially correct.The gadgets FROM Microsoft websites have been checked.The gadgets available on thousands of other sites ? who knows what they contain in them and people see them ,download and install them without a thought about security, or what else they contain.[/citation]
I get that. Those on MS should be made available... with the NOTICE: Please don't install others as their security could be a problem.
 

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[citation][nom]Rick_Criswell[/nom]You are partially correct.The gadgets FROM Microsoft websites have been checked.The gadgets available on thousands of other sites ? who knows what they contain in them and people see them ,download and install them without a thought about security, or what else they contain.[/citation]

While I see your point you may want to remember that WINDOWS was checked by M$ as well, and isn't that ever full of holes :)
The difference is more in that if a Gadget comes from M$ it may be a security risk by oversight/screw up instead of by design :)
 

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[citation][nom]balister[/nom]Some of them are kind of handy. I run the MS CPU/Memory gadget so I can know what's going on at any given time with CPU and Memory resources without having to go to Task Manager. I also run the MS Weather gadget that can be configured to show the predicted weather for the next few days coming up. So yes, there's a couple useful ones, but most are not.[/citation]

I ran the Core Temp gadget, it's pretty handy.
 

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Why microsoft just disabled that option microsoft has enough money to fix that isseus.We like sidebar in win vista at the time of relese but giving limit to windows os is bad.
If it has a security hole peoples want to fix that hole by providing updated patches.Windows os always has a security hole so microsoft just disable that os no way.
 

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Here are couple of links to get Win 8 to look normal
http://8gadgetpack.bplaced.net/
Classic Desktop etc...
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/software-and-web-apps/how-to-make-windows-8-look-like-windows-7-50009546/
 
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