Question MoCa

[joe.e]

Hello TH,
I am looking to dump Xfinity and go with 5G from one of the big thee wireless companies. Verizon says they have no caps and their cube can be configured as a pass-through.

My question is, since my Arris G36 has 1 input for coax, how do I get internet signal to it? I heard about MoCa but will they work between the verizon cube and the arris device? Thanks.

 

[helpstar]

why do you wanna use the Arris after dumping xfinity?

without a WAN port, the Arris can´t be used as a router or acces point. But if it can be configured in the menu of it, that one LAN can be used as a WAN, it should work. Eventually it´s just not documented and it can be plug&play with the modem.
Coax will always be for something like xfinity connection, can´t be used different like a moca. a moca is only converting the signal in a house using the coax cables and connect back to lan, not coax on a modem

 

[bill001g]

What advantage do you think the arris has over the verizon router.

The modem/router combo units from arris tends to be very limited in their capabilities. The other problem is you can not get any kind of firmware update for this type of unit. Devices that have modems in it are controlled by the ISP even when you own them.

In any case it appears you can if you really want hook the verizon to the arris 2.4g port and configure it to be a wan port. So even though you might technically be able to get this to work I am unsure why you are doing it.

"5G" is another marketing term. Just like they did when "4G" came out they just renamed older tech. It took a long time for customers to learn that "4G" and "4G LTE" are not the same thing. The true 5G systems...ie the ones that can give close to 1gbit...are extremely limited in availability. The coverage areas are in only tiny parts of some larger cities. They really only work with a antenna on the roof of your house.

Technically nothing that can run on a phone should have been called "5G" since it was a technology designed for stationary internet not a mobile device moving from tower to tower. What most ISP have done is rename what was called "LTE advanced" to "5G". This is not even close to the performance of the real 5G stuff.

Even with very strong signal it will not compare in performance to a cable modem. Most times you get much slower upload rates and only if you are lucky will you get download speeds much over 100mbps. The performance will also vary a lot based on time of day. This still is a cell tower and the load on the tower changes dynamically as difference cell device connect to the tower as they pass by.

The only good thing is verizon finally is offering a true unlimited mobile broadband on their home internet option for a pretty good price. Just do not expect magic it is still mobile broadband and has higher latency data loss than a coax cable coming into your house.

 

[joe.e]

What advantage do you think the arris has over the verizon router.

The modem/router combo units from arris tends to be very limited in their capabilities. The other problem is you can not get any kind of firmware update for this type of unit. Devices that have modems in it are controlled by the ISP even when you own them.

In any case it appears you can if you really want hook the verizon to the arris 2.4g port and configure it to be a wan port. So even though you might technically be able to get this to work I am unsure why you are doing it.

"5G" is another marketing term. Just like they did when "4G" came out they just renamed older tech. It took a long time for customers to learn that "4G" and "4G LTE" are not the same thing. The true 5G systems...ie the ones that can give close to 1gbit...are extremely limited in availability. The coverage areas are in only tiny parts of some larger cities. They really only work with a antenna on the roof of your house.

Technically nothing that can run on a phone should have been called "5G" since it was a technology designed for stationary internet not a mobile device moving from tower to tower. What most ISP have done is rename what was called "LTE advanced" to "5G". This is not even close to the performance of the real 5G stuff.

Even with very strong signal it will not compare in performance to a cable modem. Most times you get much slower upload rates and only if you are lucky will you get download speeds much over 100mbps. The performance will also vary a lot based on time of day. This still is a cell tower and the load on the tower changes dynamically as difference cell device connect to the tower as they pass by.

The only good thing is verizon finally is offering a true unlimited mobile broadband on their home internet option for a pretty good price. Just do not expect magic it is still mobile broadband and has higher latency data loss than a coax cable coming into your house.

Xfinity has begun to fall off and my discount is set to expire in December. The reason why I don't want to scrap the router is that I paid a good grip for it and don't want to sideline it. Looking for cheaper alternatives for internet provider.

 

[bill001g]

If you could say save money by reusing that router or if it was a better router I could see using it.

The verizon router is required for technical reason..ie you need the mobile broadband radios. Even if your arris could somehow magically have these radios,which is doesn't, the cost is the same no matter if you use the version router or not.

The arris router is a extremely basic router it is no better than say a $50 or $75 router from any other vendor. The verizon router is also fairly basic for similar reasons.

Now it might make you feel bad to in effect throw the money you spent for the arris in the trash but that is the reality.

Adding a second router just makes everything more complex for no reason at all. This would be different if you had purchased a router that say had VPN functionality or some other fancy feature.

Your best option is to just use the verizon router. Since mobile broadband routers work best if you place them in a window on the side of your house closest to the cell tower maybe you might have issues with wifi coverage. In that case you could use the arris as a AP. Unlike almost every other very cheap router I don't think the arris has AP mode...maybe it does you need to check.
You can still use it as a AP by turning off the DHCP function and assigning a lan address that does not conflict with the verizon.

Still do not be temped to just use the arris as a AP just because you want to use it. If you get strong wifi signal from the verizon box and add the arris the wifi signals will just jam each other.