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Hello all,

I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models that
are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of metal.
How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?

I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the models'
feet directly to the plastic bases.

Thank you for any advice,
Craig
 
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Craig Douglas wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal
models that
> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of
metal.
> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>
> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with
green
> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the
models'
> feet directly to the plastic bases.
>
> Thank you for any advice,
> Craig

Take a pair of snips and snip around the model's feet. You should wind
up with a model that looks like it's wearing platform shoes, lol. Take
a rasp and file off what's left. Snipping around the feet reduces the
amount of surface area to grind off. Grind till the feet are level and
can be glues to a base, preferably one without a slot.

If the model is plastic, just file it down first, until the plastic
weakens around the feet.

Alternately, if the model is that old, it may be worth some cash, or
you just may want to keep it in mint condition. In that case, just
blu-tack it to a spare base. As long as the base and the integral base
and painted the same it shouldn't be a problem.

--Chris
 
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Craig Douglas wrote:
> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models that
> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of metal.
> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>
> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the models'
> feet directly to the plastic bases.

The feet have too little surface area. If doing so, pin them into the
base.

--
--- John Hwang "JohnHwang...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny
 
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In article <cubquf$bj9l$1@netnews.upenn.edu>, Craig Douglas,
cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models that
> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of metal.
> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>
> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the models'
> feet directly to the plastic bases.
>
> Thank you for any advice,
> Craig
>

Tools:

Jewelers saw (mini hack-saw) with fine scale blades
Pin vice (small hand powered drill)
Hard wire - model & train shops often carry a decent supply
Wire cutters/clippers


Well, if you're bound and determined to convert them to the
current 28mm GW plastic bases obviously you'll need some of the round or
square non-slotta bases. (Out of curiosity, why the urge to convert
them? - most players I know that don't object to 'non-standard' or
'official' minis certainly wouldn't complain about 'non-standard'
bases.) As for removing the minis from their metal bases, I'd *highly*
recommend using a Jewelers saw (small hack saw) which are capable of
using hair fine blades. You can carefully snip away large parts of the
metal bases with clippers, and then remove the material under the feet
with the saw (which should remove minimal material from the mini itself
if you're careful) and leave you with nice flat surfaces on the bottom
of the mini's feet. Once you've removed the figure and are ready to
attach it to your new base, use the pin vise to drill small holes in the
bottom of each foot (at the ankle area where the metal is thick/deepest)
to accommodate a piece of your wire to use as a pin. Glue your pins
into the bottom of the mini's legs with some super glue or 5 minute
epoxy. Once the glue is dry, use the pins in the mini's feet to gently
mark the plastic base for exact placement of your holes in the base.
Use the pin vise to drill the holes and carefully glue the mini into the
base. If you want extra stability, you can fill the bottom of the bases
with epoxy, or even auto body bondo and let it harden and then drill
your pin holes and glue in the mini. If you're worried about the mini
or base sticking to your work surface, just place it on a cheap
styrofoam plate or piece of wax paper while you wait for the glue to
dry.

Hope that helps,

Myrmidon



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much you are going to have to make per year in order to play.

- Eric Noland

# 1082. Pound for pound I can buy cocaine cheaper than
raise a Warhammer army

- Roy Cox

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Run the bases over a file until they are thin and then stick em down to
slottas
 
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All long winded and pointless ways.........

file em, stick em, base em


Worked for me for 26 years and it all matches my slotta (*spit*) stuff
 
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Craig Douglas entered the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer
and said...

> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models that
> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of metal.
> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>
> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the models'
> feet directly to the plastic bases.
>
> Thank you for any advice,
> Craig
>

Glue and fill, if you snip off the base and decide later that you want to
sell them you will regret snipping the base.

--
Jim <snipping is for usenet posts not for mini's> M
posted on this day, the 4,179th of September 1993

"Look alive. Here comes a buzzard." -- Walt Kelly (Pogo)
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I
go into the other room and read a book." -- Groucho Marx

http://jimac.tripod.com
 
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"Myrmidon" <ImNot@home.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c734d7ad274a4a998a477@news-server.woh.rr.com...

<snip>

> Well, if you're bound and determined to convert them to the
> current 28mm GW plastic bases obviously you'll need some of the round or
> square non-slotta bases. (Out of curiosity, why the urge to convert
> them? - most players I know that don't object to 'non-standard' or
> 'official' minis certainly wouldn't complain about 'non-standard'
> bases.)

The existing metal bases are much smaller than the standard size and the
models are a bit top heavy, making them extremely unstable. Also I'm not
sure how I would rank them up if they were on smaller bases.

~Craig
 
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"Craig Douglas" <cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cubquf$bj9l$1@netnews.upenn.edu...
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models
that
> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of
metal.
> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>
> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the
models'
> feet directly to the plastic bases.
>
> Thank you for any advice,
> Craig
>
>

From the sounds of it I might later regret removing the existing metal base,
so perhaps I'll try converting a standard base to accept the existing metal
base instead of a slot.

Thank you all for your generous advice,
Craig
 
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"Craig Douglas" <cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:qmqOd.30667$QS5.11984@trndny06...
>
> "Craig Douglas" <cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:cubquf$bj9l$1@netnews.upenn.edu...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models
> that
>> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of
> metal.
>> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>>
>> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
>> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the
> models'
>> feet directly to the plastic bases.
>>
>> Thank you for any advice,
>> Craig
>>
>>
>
> From the sounds of it I might later regret removing the existing metal
> base,
> so perhaps I'll try converting a standard base to accept the existing
> metal
> base instead of a slot.

You could try to build small 'hills' on the standard base in which you stuck
the original base. I got a two component clay in a home depote used for
filling gaps. It dries quite hard within 10 to 15 seconds. For modelling it
is useless (a little bit less so when mixed with green stuff), but I stuck
my characters on small hills of it. After mixing you have to work very
quickly and try to judge the amount needed correctly because all excess is
wasted. Mix it, put the ball under your metal base push it onto your plastic
base and shape it roughly. When looking acceptable remove the model. You
should now have on your plastic base somekind of hill with a depression in
which the metal base of your figure fits. Wait a minute and then you can
smoothen out your hill with blade, file, whatever. That clay is not good for
glueing so it can happen, that you have to glue the hill on the plastic
base. Give it a coat of sand and everybody is happy.


--
Ecke

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Simply put......... just stick em down.

The sand and flock will hide the difference

Trust me on that
 
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Craig Douglas entered the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer
and said...

>
> "Craig Douglas" <cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:cubquf$bj9l$1@netnews.upenn.edu...
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models
> that
> > are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of
> metal.
> > How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
> >
> > I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
> > stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the
> models'
> > feet directly to the plastic bases.
> >
> > Thank you for any advice,
> > Craig
> >
> >
>
> From the sounds of it I might later regret removing the existing metal base,
> so perhaps I'll try converting a standard base to accept the existing metal
> base instead of a slot.
>
That's actually a very good idea...

--
Jim M
posted on this day, the 4,180th of September 1993

"Look alive. Here comes a buzzard." -- Walt Kelly (Pogo)
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I
go into the other room and read a book." -- Groucho Marx

http://jimac.tripod.com
 
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"Ancient Gamer" <hnjcomics@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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> Craig Douglas entered the world pub known as
rec.games.miniatures.warhammer
> and said...
>
> >
> > "Craig Douglas" <cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:cubquf$bj9l$1@netnews.upenn.edu...
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal
models
> > that
> > > are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of
> > metal.
> > > How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
> > >
> > > I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with
green
> > > stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the
> > models'
> > > feet directly to the plastic bases.
> > >
> > > Thank you for any advice,
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> >
> > From the sounds of it I might later regret removing the existing metal
base,
> > so perhaps I'll try converting a standard base to accept the existing
metal
> > base instead of a slot.
> >
> That's actually a very good idea...

Just cut the top out of a slotta, and use filler. If you're lazy, there are
square and hex bases made specifically for minis with integral bases.
 
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Hey, Craig

Here's a trick used to adapt the square FB bases to 40k round size:

Just glue the things to 3/8in (I.D.)flat washers (@1in O.D.).

Their weight works well even with certain figs on round bases.

Leaping Gaunts and plastic skellies benefit from this ballast.

If the original base is larger than the washer, it may be filed.

This was my experience with the FB base conversion, for instance.

Use 'parakeet gravel', etc to build up the washer to the base height.

Then paint and flock the augmented base in the usual manner.

FYI, I bought a box of 100 washers for @US$2 at the local HW store.

The washer's edges were flat on one side and radiused on the other.

Simply orient the radiused side downward for ease of movement.

HTH


Playa

--
"Necessity is the mother of invention, it is true, but its
father is creativity, and knowledge is the midwife"
- Jonathan Schattke
 
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In article <sgqOd.13409$ya6.2199@trndny01>, Craig Douglas,
cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>
> "Myrmidon" <ImNot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c734d7ad274a4a998a477@news-server.woh.rr.com...
>
> <snip>
>
> > Well, if you're bound and determined to convert them to the
> > current 28mm GW plastic bases obviously you'll need some of the round or
> > square non-slotta bases. (Out of curiosity, why the urge to convert
> > them? - most players I know that don't object to 'non-standard' or
> > 'official' minis certainly wouldn't complain about 'non-standard'
> > bases.)
>
> The existing metal bases are much smaller than the standard size and the
> models are a bit top heavy, making them extremely unstable. Also I'm not
> sure how I would rank them up if they were on smaller bases.

Ahhhh! Ok, now I understand. As others have suggested, you might
want to simply preserve the bases on the minis (and hopefully retain
their value a bit more) and mount them onto the larger GW style bases.
If they're older minis, the added height shouldn't be to much of a
problem as GW has had 'scale creep' where the size of their minis has
slowly increased over the years. You could try Elmers/White gluing the
minis to their proposed new bases - use green stuff or other two part
epoxy putty to model texture or otherwise disguise the space between the
edge of the mini's original base, and the edge of the larger base, and
then carefully pop the mini off the Elmers and allow the epoxy to dry.
(That way the mini isn't permanently epoxied onto the GW base.) Once
the base is dry, you can reglue the mini onto it with your choice of
glue and paint and detail as desired.

Myrmidon

--
#1582. I think they call it Warhammer "40K" because that is how
much you are going to have to make per year in order to play.

- Eric Noland

# 1082. Pound for pound I can buy cocaine cheaper than
raise a Warhammer army

- Roy Cox

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/gwprice/

****

RGMW FAQ: http://www.rgmw.org

Or...

http://www.sheppard.demon.co.uk/rgmw_faq/rgmw_faq.htm
 
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On 2/9/05 10:23 PM, in article
MPG.1c748ffcbc201af98a4c0@news.west.earthlink.net, "Ancient Gamer"
<hnjcomics@rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Craig Douglas entered the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer
> and said...
>
>>
>> "Craig Douglas" <cjdd@ucwphilly.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:cubquf$bj9l$1@netnews.upenn.edu...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am new to the hobby and recently acquired some man-sized metal models
>> that
>>> are pre-slotta, so each figure stands on a fairly thick rectangle of
>> metal.
>>> How would you recommend I attach them to standard size bases?
>>>
>>> I've been told either to just glue them on as is and even out with green
>>> stuff; or, alternatively, to snip off the metal bases and apply the
>> models'
>>> feet directly to the plastic bases.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any advice,
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>
>> From the sounds of it I might later regret removing the existing metal base,
>> so perhaps I'll try converting a standard base to accept the existing metal
>> base instead of a slot.
>>
> That's actually a very good idea...

Sorry for lateness and using another post but...

You can use that clay stuff that eventually hardens. You form it around the
metal base in the form of the plastic bases. Once you paint the thing, it's
hard to tell. And you don't have to destroy your metal miniatures' base.

janet
--
Any nation that can survive what we have lately in the way of government,
is on the high road to permanent glory. (Molly Ivins)
 
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Myrmidon wrote:

[SNIP]

> You could try Elmers/White gluing the
> minis to their proposed new bases

I don't like Elmers/PVA for this kind of work, as it is a very weak bond
for non-porous materials like plastic and metal. I'm sure it'd come
of with regular gaming handling. I'd suggest rubber cement instead.


--
--- John Hwang "JohnHwang...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny
 
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