more threads or higher clock speeds

[max_payne32]

Guys..i am planning to upgrade my cpu...i can either get i5 4690k+z97 and overclock it....or i7 4790 + h97...i cannot afford 4790k + z97 right now...so which combo is better for gaming?? overclocked i5 with a better mobo..or stock i7 with an inferior mobo

 

[i7Baby]

H97 won't give you SLI. I'd go the i5 and z97 mobo.

 

[geofelt]

The 4790K runs at 4.0/4.4 stock.
That is about what you might do if you got an average 4690K chip.
The 4790K does get extra l3 cache and hyperthreads which can only be good, but few games will use more than 2 cores anyway.

But... if you are planning on triple monitor gaming or a 4k monitor, you should be planning on dual GTX970 class cards and a Z97 based motherboard.

If not, H97 should be perfectly fine.

 

[max_payne32]

H97 won't give you SLI. I'd go the i5 and z97 mobo.

i never go for sli...i buy the most powerful gpu and run it for 2 -2.5 years...just tell me this..for gaming which is better...i5 4690k @ 4.5 ghz or i7 4790 at stock...

 

[nikoli707]

4690k@4.5 would be a little better almost all the way around. only a few non gaming apps that are highly threaded and optimized would the locked 4790 be equal or slightly faster. if you want the best of both worlds, just get the xeon e3-1231v3.... paired with the asrock h97 pro4 is a great budget 4c8t combo that is totally ready for anything. what do you want? low heat no frills 4c8t or the fun of overclocking a 4c4t for slightly more money.

 

[i7Baby]

H97 won't give you SLI. I'd go the i5 and z97 mobo.

i never go for sli...i buy the most powerful gpu and run it for 2 -2.5 years...just tell me this..for gaming which is better...i5 4690k @ 4.5 ghz or i7 4790 at stock...

Then get the H97 and i7

 

[max_payne32]

The 4790K runs at 4.0/4.4 stock.
That is about what you might do if you got an average 4690K chip.
The 4790K does get extra l3 cache and hyperthreads which can only be good, but few games will use more than 2 cores anyway.

But... if you are planning on triple monitor gaming or a 4k monitor, you should be planning on dual GTX970 class cards and a Z97 based motherboard.

If not, H97 should be perfectly fine.

I am talking bout 4790 (non k) version

 

[max_payne32]

H97 won't give you SLI. I'd go the i5 and z97 mobo.

i never go for sli...i buy the most powerful gpu and run it for 2 -2.5 years...just tell me this..for gaming which is better...i5 4690k @ 4.5 ghz or i7 4790 at stock...

Then get the H97 and i7

thank you for your reply...but even here i am getting different opinions

 

[max_payne32]

4690k@4.5 would be a little better almost all the way around. only a few non gaming apps that are highly threaded and optimized would the locked 4790 be equal or slightly faster. if you want the best of both worlds, just get the xeon e3-1231v3.... paired with the asrock h97 pro4 is a great budget 4c8t combo that is totally ready for anything. what do you want? low heat no frills 4c8t or the fun of overclocking a 4c4t for slightly more money.

In my country xe0n is very costly..besides xeon cannot be overlocked right??? so why should i go for xeon if i can already afford a locked i7....but what you said about i5 4690k overclocked to 4.5ghz giving better performance in games, was very helpful..thank you for your response...

 

[i7Baby]

H97 won't give you SLI. I'd go the i5 and z97 mobo.

i never go for sli...i buy the most powerful gpu and run it for 2 -2.5 years...just tell me this..for gaming which is better...i5 4690k @ 4.5 ghz or i7 4790 at stock...

Then get the H97 and i7

thank you for your reply...but even here i am getting different opinions

That's because there's not much difference between the choices. For gaming the i5 is the best for the price. For video editing you'd be better off with the i7.

 

[nikoli707]

its nice to know what country your from as prices vary greatly. if nobody says, we just kinda assume your in the usa. if this is purely for gaming the i5 is better. here in the usa the xeon costs a bit less than the lowest i7, especailly if you consider the price difference from an h97 and a z97 and the cost of a cpu cooler. for some who want editing capability with gaming but are on a budget, the xeon can allow the extra few dollars in the budget so one can get a higher tier graphics card or better power supply.

otherwise...
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1158&page=13

 

[geofelt]

4790 vs. 4790K is a big difference.
The 4790K is a better binned chip that runs at 4.0-4.4 stock.
the 4790 is 3.6/4.0
The 4790K will cost about 10% more.

 

[max_payne32]

its nice to know what country your from as prices vary greatly. if nobody says, we just kinda assume your in the usa. if this is purely for gaming the i5 is better. here in the usa the xeon costs a bit less than the lowest i7, especailly if you consider the price difference from an h97 and a z97 and the cost of a cpu cooler. for some who want editing capability with gaming but are on a budget, the xeon can allow the extra few dollars in the budget so one can get a higher tier graphics card or better power supply.

otherwise...
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1158&page=13

I am from India...so in your currency, xeon costs 330 dollars and i7 4790(non k) costs 370 dollars....besides its rare...kinda hard to find...the link you provided compares ivy bridge i5 vs sandy bridge i5 vs haswell i5 ..minimal difference i know....but Iam talking about the i7....also clear my doubts about something please....i7 has hyperthreading ...so thats 4 logical and 4 physical cores...and not actual 8 physical cores...when games truly start taking advantage of more cores....will hyperthreading actually help?? I mean will a quad core i7 with hyperthreading be able to compete with a true octa core cpu or hex core?? Because I am hearing that direct x 12 will improve cpu scaling in games

 

[r3v3ng3]

Yes the i7 has 4 physical and 4 virtual cores and yes it can compete with a true octa core, its better than amd octa cores. To answer your original question overclock an i5 it will perform better than the i7 in most games.

 

[nikoli707]

same test rigs running a 7970@1100mhz(r9-280x) on crysis 3 with ridiculous maxed out settings.
4770k@4.5ghz = 21.8fps
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1123&page=6
4670k@4.5ghz = 21.4fps
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1158&page=6

you can manually go thru each link and each game they benchmarked, you will never see a noticeable difference between an i5 and an i7 in gaming, let alone a locked basic i5 vs an overclocked i7.

we should eventually see quantifiable gains from higher end cpus, but even a basic i3(2 cores with 2 hyperthreads) can give 90% the frames in a worst case scenerio compared to an i5. very few games will see any benefit after the 2 main cores are loaded up. relatively intel is so fast per clock per core that developers are just not trying to hard to load up more cores. what their more interested in is eliminating cpu overhead in the first place and relying on the gpu to do work.

its entirely possible that future games with exceptional driver optimization will not need much cpu horsepower at all, just the basics, while gpus will do all the heavy lifting.

get the 4690k, its an excellent processor with loads of horsepower.