Motherboard NVMe SUpport

[DefinitelyNotTom]

Are all z370 and x470 mobos going to support NVMe? I'm confused because some say if it says PCI-E 3.0 x4 it automatically supports NVMe and some say that isn't true.

I also saw that someone said an older version of the hd3p supported it, so I assume the z370 version would... I was going to probably get that board if I go with intel cpu, but so many gigabyte boards are rated horribly, I am worried about the brand, as well.

I have a M.2 960 evo, so obviously I am hoping for a motherboard that will be good for it, but I am not wanting to spend a ton and I am not going to overclock the cpu, only going to use the memory at higher than default speed.

I thought I had decided to go with the 2700x cpu and an x470 board until I saw that what people say about amd being cheaper is not really true. So I'm back to undecided. Every x470 mobo is far more expensive than several z370 ones and even the new ryzen cpus are priced higher than their comparable intel cpus as the 2700x is only even with the standard 8700, but costs at least $30 more.

 

[gdmaclew]

Every where I look the new Ryzen 7 2700X is at least $80 cheaper than the i7-8700 and that Intel CPU is locked. The i7-8700K is generally about $150 more than the 2700X.

This motherboard is priced competitively with most z370 boards...

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145060&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction-CS&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-CS-_-Motherboards%20-%20AMD-_-GIGABYTE-_-13145060&cm_sp=&AID=11886886&PID=2506536&SID=

 

[richardvday]

Just because the chip-set/cpu support something doesn't mean the motherboard manufacturer will incorporate it so some cheaper boards may not include nvme but this is all motherboard specific you did not ask about a specific motherboard or even ask for a recommendation so I am a bit confused about what it is you are asking ?

And then you ramble into more incoherent and from what I can see untrue statements about AMD being more expensive than Intel, I don't see that anywhere around here. Perhaps you are shopping in the wrong store ?

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

About time I get a rude response here. About the only site I haven't got one on. lol, Better learn to read again, because I even said a specific model.

And to the guy above your post, I don't know what country you're in, but in the US the 8700 is $300, the 2700x is $330, and the 8700k has been on sale multiple times for under $300 also.

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

As for the main point, it's pretty clear.... I asked how do I know if a motherboard will support NVMe. As I stated, I have seen online some saying it would automatically be supported on ones with PCI-E x4 and I mentioned a specific model, whose older version apparently supported it. Also, shouldn't be that hard to tell me the z370 and x470 boards that support it, given that there's not even that many released.

And the other question in there was whether to trust the model I mentioned, given how many other gigabyte mobos for z370 have been horribly rated and people saying they didn't come with heatsinks as they were supposed to etc...

 

[richardvday]

About time I get a rude response here. About the only site I haven't got one on. lol, Better learn to read again, because I even said a specific model.

And to the guy above your post, I don't know what country you're in, but in the US the 8700 is $300, the 2700x is $330, and the 8700k has been on sale multiple times for under $300 also.

If you think THAT'S rude I don't know what to tell you.
asking about all z370 and x470 boards is pretty general. I should go look at all of them for you ?
Next sentence you ask again a general question that is a board specific thing, I cant make a blanket statement about multiple boards from different manufacturers.

At this point you mention the hd3p and the x370 version but then you go back to talking about how horrible gigabyte boards are,

I don't think I was rude at all.
I will not follow this silly thread anymore so don't bother bashing me I wont see it.
Have a nice day

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

Guess he didn't have any answers. I should have known not to take the bait and respond to someone like that. This site is getting ridiculous. I haven't had a legit normal answer to anything on here in months. And that after a post where someone claimed coffee lake costs more than ryzen 2 ...

 

[jr9]

Depends on the specific board you buy. X470 motherboards are still very new and just being released now so it's hard to say; however many enthusiast boards with overclocking options have the M.2 port or two needed for PCIe x4 based M.2 drives. The prices have not quite settled either. PCIe 3.0 x4 implies NMVe so if it has the M.2 port then you are good. Something like the X470 GAMING PLUS would support the EVO 960.

You can also run Ryzen 2nd gen chips on older AM4 platforms like X370. AMD isn't that much cheaper as Intel prices have been adjusted considerably since last year in response to Ryzen.

That being said this is what I would do: First start with figuring out which processor you need. If you are looking at something like the 2700X then you are someone who needs lots of cores/threads and you probably will want to pick an X470 board with M.2 to go with it and a nice 16GB or 32GB RAM kit. If this is primarily a gaming machine I would actually look at the 8600k on the Z370 platform. Performs just as well in gaming although lacks the cores/threads for things like encoding/streaming/content creation the 2700X has.

AMD route core for max CPU resources/multitasking:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($0.00)
Total: $629.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 19:32 EDT-0400

Intel gaming oriented path with about the same performance if you are looking for a primarily gaming PC:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600 3.1GHz 6-Core Processor ($222.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($96.35 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($0.00)
Total: $499.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 19:34 EDT-0400

Intel route with better multitasking that is on par with the 2700X:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($298.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - B360-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($96.35 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($0.00)
Total: $575.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-27 19:36 EDT-0400

 

[DefinitelyNotTom]

I wonder why pcpartpicker is putting the 960 evo as $0. lol.

Thanks. To give more info, I already bought a 960 evo, the psu, the case (atx), 32gb trident z memory, a hdd, I'm just down to motherboard, cpu, gpu, and stupid windows (if I don't want to risk trying to switch over my current pc's windows 10 via tying it to a MS account).

I am not gaming and "most" of the time I will not doing much of anything resource-intensive. But at times I may do video editing and also I do programming. Probably anything I get will be overkill and I probably should just return the memory and get 16gb.... but I'll probably keep it just figuring something will come along down the road that will make me glad to have the extra memory.

I originally was going to get the standard 8700. I don't need to overclock, but I do need my memory running at listed speed (3200) or close to it, otherwise why did I bother getting a good sped? So that leaves out B and H intel boards.

My main question, though, is how to know if the motherboard does support NVMe. Almost ALL of the boards have at least 1 m.2 slot that takes either sata or PCI-E x4. The confusion comes in because some say that alone means it supports NVMe and others claim that still doesn't necessarily mean it does, so which is it and how do I know?