[SOLVED] Moving from i7-930 to i9-10850K. 10 Year gap. Need to reinstall Windows?

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Hi guys, as the title says, I am moving from my old i7-930 BIOS to i9-10850K UEFI after so long. Do I need to reinstall my Windows partitions (I have two) or can I just continue as business as usual? Of course this means a whole new motherboard too lol
 
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Math Geek said:
the 970 is a small bit better. but other than price, they are very close in performance. what you get is the brand name that means you know it is going to be a good drive for the money. there are many cheaper brands but they don't offer the quality you get with these brands.

the western digital blue sn550 is below $100 for the 1 tb model now. it's a great buy and only trails the sn750 by a small bit but is a lot cheaper. i saw it for $95 and will probably buy it today or tomorrow due to the great price. the TBW is not as high as i'd like but in the end replacing it in 5 years instead of 10 is not that big of a deal to me.
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So the black has a much better TBW?
 
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edo101 said:
So the black has a much better TBW?
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no they have the same TBW. it's just that the 970 evo has tested a touch better than the black. but real world you won't see any performance difference between the drives. it takes very specific workloads to show the differences between the drives. there are very few things you will do that will rely on that specific workload. overall, what we would use them for, there is just about no difference between most of the drives.

knowing this i am more inclined to get the budget WD SN550. i don't know about you, but i tend to pass down my pc parts for a long time and would not surprise myself to have whatever nvme drive i buy still in use 10 years from now in one form or another. for only this reason, i am looking at the endurance of the various drives to see what options exists. for instance the 1 tb of all these models listed is 600 TBW. there are some drives for similar money that have about twice that TBW. it would be worth an extra $10-15 to me for double the endurance to ensure i could pass it down as long as i wish. i am looking at the PNY XLR8 or Sabrent Rocket drives which have 2x the TBW and are not that much more expensive. i'd buy one of these before the 970 evo or WD black.

as noted above by the others, the average person will not hit even the lower TBW so it is not worth worrying about. few people keep and reuse parts as long as i do to even worry about more than a few years use. i literally still have a pc from 2009 in use in my house!!! another from about 2013 that gets daily use. so long life is important to me if possible. your requirements may differ and means you don't really need to bother with that number at all.

for the prices i have seen, the WD SN550 is a great buy right now with 1 tb being $100. an extra $15 or more for the black sn750 or the 970 evo drives is not worth it imo for no noticeable performance gain nor endurance. that same $15-20 more will get 2x the endurance in the other models i listed.
 
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Math Geek said:
no they have the same TBW. it's just that the 970 evo has tested a touch better than the black. but real world you won't see any performance difference between the drives. it takes very specific workloads to show the differences between the drives. there are very few things you will do that will rely on that specific workload. overall, what we would use them for, there is just about no difference between most of the drives.

knowing this i am more inclined to get the budget WD SN550. i don't know about you, but i tend to pass down my pc parts for a long time and would not surprise myself to have whatever nvme drive i buy still in use 10 years from now in one form or another. for only this reason, i am looking at the endurance of the various drives to see what options exists. for instance the 1 tb of all these models listed is 600 TBW. there are some drives for similar money that have about twice that TBW. it would be worth an extra $10-15 to me for double the endurance to ensure i could pass it down as long as i wish. i am looking at the PNY XLR8 or Sabrent Rocket drives which have 2x the TBW and are not that much more expensive. i'd buy one of these before the 970 evo or WD black.

as noted above by the others, the average person will not hit even the lower TBW so it is not worth worrying about. few people keep and reuse parts as long as i do to even worry about more than a few years use. i literally still have a pc from 2009 in use in my house!!! another from about 2013 that gets daily use. so long life is important to me if possible. your requirements may differ and means you don't really need to bother with that number at all.

for the prices i have seen, the WD SN550 is a great buy right now with 1 tb being $100. an extra $15 or more for the black sn750 or the 970 evo drives is not worth it imo for no noticeable performance gain nor endurance. that same $15-20 more will get 2x the endurance in the other models i listed.
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Bro I'm exactly in the same boat. WHen I buy stuff, i expect to hold on to them PC wise for at least 5 years. My upgrade happened yesterday from 2010. It was an i7-930 X-58. It just cou;dn't keep up with open world games like Cyberpunk 77 so I was like ok time to move on.

So thats why I am asking about the best reliability/price to performance ratio. I don't care the brand, as long as it can last
 
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Math Geek said:
no they have the same TBW. it's just that the 970 evo has tested a touch better than the black. but real world you won't see any performance difference between the drives. it takes very specific workloads to show the differences between the drives. there are very few things you will do that will rely on that specific workload. overall, what we would use them for, there is just about no difference between most of the drives.

knowing this i am more inclined to get the budget WD SN550. i don't know about you, but i tend to pass down my pc parts for a long time and would not surprise myself to have whatever nvme drive i buy still in use 10 years from now in one form or another. for only this reason, i am looking at the endurance of the various drives to see what options exists. for instance the 1 tb of all these models listed is 600 TBW. there are some drives for similar money that have about twice that TBW. it would be worth an extra $10-15 to me for double the endurance to ensure i could pass it down as long as i wish. i am looking at the PNY XLR8 or Sabrent Rocket drives which have 2x the TBW and are not that much more expensive. i'd buy one of these before the 970 evo or WD black.

as noted above by the others, the average person will not hit even the lower TBW so it is not worth worrying about. few people keep and reuse parts as long as i do to even worry about more than a few years use. i literally still have a pc from 2009 in use in my house!!! another from about 2013 that gets daily use. so long life is important to me if possible. your requirements may differ and means you don't really need to bother with that number at all.

for the prices i have seen, the WD SN550 is a great buy right now with 1 tb being $100. an extra $15 or more for the black sn750 or the 970 evo drives is not worth it imo for no noticeable performance gain nor endurance. that same $15-20 more will get 2x the endurance in the other models i listed.
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@Math Geek what about this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L6GF81L/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fabc_vQ47FbG5HE5EA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
 
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Math Geek said:
the PNY is cheaper so i'd go for that one vs the sn750. nothing gained by spending the extra money for the sn750 other than saying you spent the extra money
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Nah. I am not comfortable with Some brands when it comes to Reliability over Time. PNY, ADATA and Kingston being three of them. It is always better to spend Little extra and get from Reliable brand like Crucial, WD and SAMSUNG.
 
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that's the beauty of opinions. we all get one :)

i'm ok with pny though i don't care for adata myself. kingston ram has been good to me over the years though i have never tried their ssd products nor really paid any attention to reviews of their stuff.

what i love about this forum is that someone asking a question gets many different experienced opinions and then gets to make an informed decision for themselves. it's a wonderful thing for someone who is looking for quality information.
 
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Math Geek said:
that's the beauty of opinions. we all get one :)

i'm ok with pny though i don't care for adata myself. kingston ram has been good to me over the years though i have never tried their ssd products nor really paid any attention to reviews of their stuff.

what i love about this forum is that someone asking a question gets many different experienced opinions and then gets to make an informed decision for themselves. it's a wonderful thing for someone who is looking for quality information.
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Kingston RAM, great.

The only SSD I've had "slow down" over time was/is a Kingston.
Added to their underhanded swapping of controllers after sending good ones out for review....they are on my DoNotBuy list.
Given all the other good makes, why bother...
 
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Math Geek said:
that's the beauty of opinions. we all get one :)

i'm ok with pny though i don't care for adata myself. kingston ram has been good to me over the years though i have never tried their ssd products nor really paid any attention to reviews of their stuff.

what i love about this forum is that someone asking a question gets many different experienced opinions and then gets to make an informed decision for themselves. it's a wonderful thing for someone who is looking for quality information.
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Just be clear in My statement I trust and Use Kingston RAM. Kingston SSDs on the other hand I have heard of them being extremely Unreliable from Members and Even Moderators of this Forum. So I don't recommend them at all.
 
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Math Geek said:
good to know. i've not paid much attention to kingston to catch them playing the part swapping game. as noted though, with known great quality similar price or a touch more, it is not worth the risk for sure.

thanks for the heads up
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/7763/an-update-to-kingston-ssdnow-v300-a-switch-to-slower-micron-nand
PNY as well:
www.zdnet.com

Kingston and PNY found changing SSD components

ExtremeTech reports that Kingston and PNY are changing the components in their SSDs once the initial reviews are in. And not necessarily for the better.
www.zdnet.com www.zdnet.com
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...itching-cheaper-components-after-good-reviews


And ADATA
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/adata-and-other-ssd-makers-swapping-parts
 
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USAFRet said:
Kingston RAM, great.

The only SSD I've had "slow down" over time was/is a Kingston.
Added to their underhanded swapping of controllers after sending good ones out for review....they are on my DoNotBuy list.
Given all the other good makes, why bother...
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Yes I use Kingston RAM as well. But have got negative Feedback about SSDs from other Moderators as well so have Never advised one after that.
 
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Thanks again guys @King Dranzer @USAFRet @Math Geek. I went with SN750. I am worried about 600 TBW as opposed to PNYs thats like double that?

Now to start looking into how to overclock an i9 10850k/10900k. I hear one shouldn't use any auto settings on their mobos. Especially Asrocks which overcompensates. Later on when and if my AIO comes in, I'll look at videos on how to properly mount them
 
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edo101 said:
I am worried about 600 TBW as opposed to PNYs thats like double that?
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If you reach that 600TBW number before the end of the decade, and the drive dies out from too many write cycles, I'll personally buy you a new one.
Dec 31, 2029.

(in normal use, of course. No fair trying to force the issue)
(also, it may die from something else. That also doesn't count)
 
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USAFRet said:
If you reach that 600TBW number before the end of the decade, and the drive dies out from too many write cycles, I'll personally buy you a new one.
Dec 31, 2029.

(in normal use, of course. No fair trying to force the issue)
(also, it may die from something else. That also doesn't count)
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lol ok. thats reassuring!
 
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165 gb per day for 10 years.

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