Question MSI 3080 Ti stuttering ?

[bigsmithyrogers]

My system specs are;
Ryzen 9 5900x
MSI Suprim X 3080 TI
MSI MAG 570S Tomahawk Max
Adata XPG Levante Liquid Cooling 240R-ARGB
16GB 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance RAM
WD Blue SN550 500GB SSD
Seagate 2TB 7200rpm HDD
Corsair RM850 Gold Modular 850 Power Supply V2

Basically what's been happening is, I've been attempting to play apex legends/farcry 6 and have just noticed constant stuttering/hitching. I've tried turning vsync on/off, gsync on/off, capped fps, lowered graphic settings, changed computer power settings, turned on hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling, ddu uninstall/reinstall. (Windows was recently freshly reinstalled whilst putting the card in) I've ran two benchmarks, one on 3D Mark, the other on Heavenbenchmark, i noticed stuttering on the heaven benchmark but not so much on the 3dmark. My FPS seems unchanged in game, it's stable so the FPS isn't dropping causing stuttering from what I can see. I've researched online to see other people posting on forums having the same issue but the threads usually end abruptly with no apparent solution/fix.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

Have you the most up to date bios? If not, update it. A lot of issues with MSI mobo/RTX 3080ti stem from bios not being up to date.

 

[sizzling]

Is the RAM running in dual channel and at 3200mhz?

 

[dotas1]

As already recommended you need to install latest BIOS and along with that, chipset drivers and windows updates.

Run a userbenchmark and post the link to the results here so we can see if some issue pops up. Check your temps idle and while gaming, both CPU and GPU.

Although your PSU is one of the very good ones, it's a RM and not RMx. The RM series are known to have some issues with the 3000 Nvidia series that RMx do not have. I am not sure if Corsair fixed that and you own the updated version, so take this with a grain of salt.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Although your PSU is one of the very good ones, it's a RM and not RMx. The RM series are known to have some issues with the 3000 Nvidia series that RMx do not have. I am not sure if Corsair fixed that and you own the updated version, so take this with a grain of salt.

Transient Power spikes. Cause overprotections to kick in often leading to shutdowns, but other issues too.

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

Is the RAM running in dual channel and at 3200mhz?

Yes rams running at 3200mhz

 

[sizzling]

Yes rams running at 3200mhz

And dual channel?

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

And dual channel?

Yep they’re dual channel

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

As already recommended you need to install latest BIOS and along with that, chipset drivers and windows updates.

Run a userbenchmark and post the link to the results here so we can see if some issue pops up. Check your temps idle and while gaming, both CPU and GPU.

Although your PSU is one of the very good ones, it's a RM and not RMx. The RM series are known to have some issues with the 3000 Nvidia series that RMx do not have. I am not sure if Corsair fixed that and you own the updated version, so take this with a grain of salt.

Bios are up to date temps are fine, here’s the benchmark, (have tried games with and without g sync with no improvement just happened to be on for the benchmark)

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/48758099

 

[Nighthawk117]

My system specs are;
Ryzen 9 5900x
MSI Suprim X 3080 TI
MSI MAG 570S Tomahawk Max
Adata XPG Levante Liquid Cooling 240R-ARGB
16GB 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance RAM
WD Blue SN550 500GB SSD
Seagate 2TB 7200rpm HDD
Corsair RM850 Gold Modular 850 Power Supply V2

Basically what's been happening is, I've been attempting to play apex legends/farcry 6 and have just noticed constant stuttering/hitching. I've tried turning vsync on/off, gsync on/off, capped fps, lowered graphic settings, changed computer power settings, turned on hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling, ddu uninstall/reinstall. (Windows was recently freshly reinstalled whilst putting the card in) I've ran two benchmarks, one on 3D Mark, the other on Heavenbenchmark, i noticed stuttering on the heaven benchmark but not so much on the 3dmark. My FPS seems unchanged in game, it's stable so the FPS isn't dropping causing stuttering from what I can see. I've researched online to see other people posting on forums having the same issue but the threads usually end abruptly with no apparent solution/fix.

Do you have multiple monitors with different refresh rates? I recently had an issue where Battlefield V was a stuttery mess, I have a 10850K and 3080. I later discovered that the issue was caused by the fact I have a second display that runs at a lower refresh rate than my primary monitor. Probably not your issue but just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Also please get another 16GB of RAM, your 5900X is lonely

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

Also please get another 16GB of RAM, your 5900X is lonely

I do indeed, one monitor is 1440p 165hz, the other is 1080p 75hz, I saw someone say this somewhere and I disconnected the monitor to find no improvement sadly.

 

[Nighthawk117]

Oh ok, is the PCI-E slot for the GPU running at x16. I had another issue recently where it was running at 2x and it caused a lot of stuttering. GPU-Z will tell you. The only other thing I've had is one of the Spectre mitigations causing a problem but don't think that's applicable to you.

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

Oh ok, is the PCI-E slot for the GPU running at x16. I had another issue recently where it was running at 2x and it caused a lot of stuttering. GPU-Z will tell you. The only other thing I've had is one of the Spectre mitigations causing a problem but don't think that's applicable to you.

Yep seems to be running at x16 4.0 according to gpu-z

 

[Nighthawk117]

Are the games stored on a hard drive by any chance?

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

Are the games stored on a hard drive by any chance?

They’re on the SSD

 

[Nighthawk117]

Oh ok thought I'd check as I've had odd issue there.

 

[Nighthawk117]

How have you connected your 3080 Ti to the PSU? Are you using two separate cables that go to two separate sockets on the PSU?

Are they daisy chained at all?

 

[dotas1]

Bios are up to date temps are fine, here’s the benchmark, (have tried games with and without g sync with no improvement just happened to be on for the benchmark)

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/48758099

How are your temps? Because I see the CPU not reaching near the advertised clocks which usually means it's thermal throttling.

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

How have you connected your 3080 Ti to the PSU? Are you using two separate cables that go to two separate sockets on the PSU?

Are they daisy chained at all?

I’m using a cooler master cable kit, which was put in by my local IT company

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

How are your temps? Because I see the CPU not reaching near the advertised clocks which usually means it's thermal throttling.

My temps were actually normal Id have to run another benchmark and post the link because I had a lot of background processes going on during that current one

 

[Nighthawk117]

Do you have other demanding games installed that run without issue?

 

[Phaaze88]

Hmm...
1)Multiple monitors plugged into a single gpu, but with different refresh rates. This one's been checked already.

2)One or multiple devices are throttling for one reason or another - thermal, power limit, or physical damage:
-cpu. Good 'till 90C.
-motherboard VRM. Should be good until 100C.
-gpu core. Up to 83C.
-gpu hotspot. 110C.
-gpu memory. 105C
-storage: in the case of SSDs, the ASIC controller is of importance. I think this one's good up to 70C. Most apps ignore the controller and just show users the temperature of the NAND flash, which prefers to run warm anyway. As for normal HDDs, below 50C should be good.
That covers most of the hardware involved in game performance. Some of these have been checked already.
[Hwinfo can be used to view ASIC controller thermals.]

3)Drivers/software. Gonna be quite vague, but it can be difficult to pin this one down.
Anything you like to leave running alongside the game? Or perhaps you use torrent download apps and they're running in the background?

The above 3 are some of what come to mind as far as what may cause stuttering.

4)"I've ran two benchmarks, one on 3D Mark, the other on Heavenbenchmark, i noticed stuttering on the heaven benchmark but not so much on the 3dmark. My FPS seems unchanged in game, it's stable so the FPS isn't dropping causing stuttering from what I can see."
So, benchmarks are telling you that the machine is performing as expected, but visually, you say otherwise? Wouldn't that mean there's a hiccup in sending the rendered frames to the monitor?
Bad monitor cable(s)?

 

[bigsmithyrogers]

Hmm...
1)Multiple monitors plugged into a single gpu, but with different refresh rates. This one's been checked already.

2)One or multiple devices are throttling for one reason or another - thermal, power limit, or physical damage:
-cpu. Good 'till 90C.
-motherboard VRM. Should be good until 100C.
-gpu core. Up to 83C.
-gpu hotspot. 110C.
-gpu memory. 105C
-storage: in the case of SSDs, the ASIC controller is of importance. I think this one's good up to 70C. Most apps ignore the controller and just show users the temperature of the NAND flash, which prefers to run warm anyway. As for normal HDDs, below 50C should be good.
That covers most of the hardware involved in game performance. Some of these have been checked already.
[Hwinfo can be used to view ASIC controller thermals.]

3)Drivers/software. Gonna be quite vague, but it can be difficult to pin this one down.
Anything you like to leave running alongside the game? Or perhaps you use torrent download apps and they're running in the background?

The above 3 are some of what come to mind as far as what may cause stuttering.

4)"I've ran two benchmarks, one on 3D Mark, the other on Heavenbenchmark, i noticed stuttering on the heaven benchmark but not so much on the 3dmark. My FPS seems unchanged in game, it's stable so the FPS isn't dropping causing stuttering from what I can see."
So, benchmarks are telling you that the machine is performing as expected, but visually, you say otherwise? Wouldn't that mean there's a hiccup in sending the rendered frames to the monitor?
Bad monitor cable(s)?

I went ahead today and bought another display port cable to find no improvement i still get them micro stutters unfortunately im not sure what else I can try

 

[Nighthawk117]

I went ahead today and bought another display port cable to find no improvement i still get them micro stutters unfortunately im not sure what else I can try

Is it all games that give you this problem or just these two and the heaven benchmark? Some games can be funny on the high core count Ryzen chips, I didn't think it was an issue on Zen 3 but do you have Ryzen Master installed? If so try setting it to game mode and see if the problem still persists.