Question MSi B450M Bazooka Plus

[KhouhenStercie.Bacus]

I really need your expertise in building a PC, I'm planning to buy a USED B450M Bazooka Plus for $54 (USED) however my concern is RAM the supported RAM says on the website says maximum speed is 3466Mhz (OC)

That's what it says on the website from MSI

• 4 x DDR4 memory slots, support up to 128GB *ComboPI 1.0.0.3-based and above BIOS are required.
• Supports 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667Mhz (by JEDEC)
• Supports 2667/ 2800/ 2933/ 3000/ 3066/ 3200/ 3333 MHz (by A-XMP OC MODE)
• Supports Dual-Channel mode
• Supports non-ECC UDIMM memory
• Supports ECC UDIMM memory

I'm quite worried about what RAM should i Purchase I was looking forward to getting the T-Force DARK ZA 3600Mhz would it work on this motherboard

I've read other threads that the RAM would still work as the website implies during that time its highest RAM frequency was tested or available. during release and it's just the website did not update the info. as per the threads I've read here.

 

[tennis2]

3600MHz RAM can operate at lower speeds. No issue.

 

[KhouhenStercie.Bacus]

3600MHz RAM can operate at lower speeds. No issue.

but I would like to utilize the higher speeds can I still use it?

because if I cant it seems to be pointless buying a 3600 if I can only use a 3200 or below that.

 

[Kona45primo]

3600 shouldn't be an issue. The CPU plays a large role in memory speeds for AM4. If you were to use a 1XXX or 2XXX AMD CPU for instance 3200mhz+ may or not be possible. With a 5XXX CPU 3600mhz should be attainable, perhaps even higher, of course no guarantees.

Case in point I have an older Asus Prime B350 and with 3200mhz ram and a 1600x it was just barely unstable. Bumping up to a 3700x allowed stability. Then I went to a 5700x with 4 sticks of 8GB 3600hmz ram, perfectly stable again. Motherboard specs said 3200mhz was the max tested.

 

[Kona45primo]

Pay attention to CL #'s as well. The difference between CL14 & CL 16 is similar to 200hmz of speed. With the lower CL being faster. something like gskill flare x 3200mhz ddr4 cl14 might be a good safe point.

What CPU do you plan in using?

 

[KhouhenStercie.Bacus]

3600 shouldn't be an issue. The CPU plays a large role in memory speeds for AM4. If you were to use a 1XXX or 2XXX AMD CPU for instance 3200mhz+ may or not be possible. With a 5XXX CPU 3600mhz should be attainable, perhaps even higher, of course no guarantees.

Case in point I have an older Asus Prime B350 and with 3200mhz ram and a 1600x it was just barely unstable. Bumping up to a 3700x allowed stability. Then I went to a 5700x with 4 sticks of 8GB 3600hmz ram, perfectly stable again. Motherboard specs said 3200mhz was the max tested.

Ahh, Actually I just sold my PC just to form a SFF Tecware Fusion Build. really like to bring my PC to the living room where the big TV is for triple-A experience @4K Res.

Parts that I have right now.
- Ryzen 5 3600 $80 USED
- AMD RX 6700 XT $289 USED

Planning to buy:
- MSi B450M Bazook Plus $50 USED
- T-Force Dark ZA 3600Mhz $50 NEW
- Cougar GEX 650 Modular ATX $50

the reason I was trying to get the 3600mhz RAM I was planning to buy the 5800x3d this Black Friday or Christmas.

So if I get the 3600Mhz RAM and later on upgrade to 5800x3d I can utilize the higher frequency without a hitch? with the motherboard that I have?

 

[KhouhenStercie.Bacus]

Pay attention to CL #'s as well. The difference between CL14 & CL 16 is similar to 200hmz of speed. With the lower CL being faster. something like gskill flare x 3200mhz ddr4 cl14 might be a good safe point.

What CPU do you plan in using?

Man CL14 here in our area is very rare, for now, I'm getting the Ryzen 5 3600.

but somewhere in November or December planning to get the 5800x3d for a final path for AM4. seems the 7000 series is expensive and in most reviews, I've seen so far 5800x3d is performing well and even beating 7800x3d in some.

 

[Kona45primo]

If you're planning on a 5800x3d then yeah, it would be nice to get around 3600mhz. It's just going to be a crapshoot if it'll work with a 3600x. Although rumor was the 3xxx & 5xxx series chips had similar memory controllers. If that's the case it should be good to go. A quick search on reddit confirms that 3600mhz works often with the 3600x.

I think I remember seeing that ram timings may not impact the x3d chips as much as the non 3d chips as the extra cache helps to keep things well fed quickly. But a lower CL is beneficial nonetheless.

I'd say just start hunting for some bargain ram. Even used assuming they allow for returns in case it does not work. I've had pretty good luck with ram on Ebay, haven't had anything DOA yet.

 

[KhouhenStercie.Bacus]

If you're planning on a 5800x3d then yeah, it would be nice to get around 3600mhz. It's just going to be a crapshoot if it'll work with a 3600x. Although rumor was the 3xxx & 5xxx series chips had similar memory controllers. If that's the case it should be good to go. A quick search on reddit confirms that 3600mhz works often with the 3600x.

I think I remember seeing that ram timings may not impact the x3d chips as much as the non 3d chips as the extra cache helps to keep things well fed quickly. But a lower CL is beneficial nonetheless.

I'd say just start hunting for some bargain ram. Even used assuming they allow for returns in case it does not work. I've had pretty good luck with ram on Ebay, haven't had anything DOA yet.

Yeah, I was looking for CL14 Timing RAM and wanted to get the perf out of a 5800x3d I was able to see the reviews from the Hardware Unboxed, they were using cl 16 and 14 for 5800x3d the perf increased at least 10 to 15 percent more.

lastly, it's the last gen of the AM4 platform so I wish to get the most out of it.

Really appreciated your feedback so I'll go ahead and grab the Motherboard before anyone does, actually purchased it thru Facebook Marketplace.

And prices actually aren't from eBay just converted it to PESO to dollars hard to purchase in the Philippines even though it is cheap as it gets more expensive. Import TAX and other stuff.

 

[KhouhenStercie.Bacus]

3600 shouldn't be an issue. The CPU plays a large role in memory speeds for AM4. If you were to use a 1XXX or 2XXX AMD CPU for instance 3200mhz+ may or not be possible. With a 5XXX CPU 3600mhz should be attainable, perhaps even higher, of course no guarantees.

Case in point I have an older Asus Prime B350 and with 3200mhz ram and a 1600x it was just barely unstable. Bumping up to a 3700x allowed stability. Then I went to a 5700x with 4 sticks of 8GB 3600hmz ram, perfectly stable again. Motherboard specs said 3200mhz was the max tested.

Already got my unit

Gigabyte B550m DS3H MATX
Ryzen 5 3600
T-Force Dark ZA 16gb 8X2
Deepcool AK400