Review MSI Cyborg 15 Review: An overly budget gaming laptop

[Admin]

MSI’s Cyborg 15 is cheap, but its below-average performance and screen will make you wish you spent more.

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[Notton]

I take issue with the Cyber Punk benchmark settings.
Realistically, no one is going to use very high settings when it struggles hitting 20fps.
It should be set to whatever it can hit 60fps with. DLSS + Frame gen + ultra performance, that sort of deal.

I own a laptop with an RTX2050, and it makes all games look like they're from the 2000's.

 

[rockerrb3]

I bought this model and it came with 12th gen core i7, 16 GB RAM and 512 SSD and 4060 graphics. I only paid $750 before taxes and shipping for it. Then I upgraded it to a crucial 700 4 TB SSD and 64 GBs of Corsair 4800 vengence memory and it runs just fine, but I haven't done any gaming on it yet other than a game called Pinball F/X. My old desktop is a Dell windows 10 machine and it was over 15 years old and I often look on this site and other sites just for kicks to see if there is a better deal out there (even though I have no intention of buying a better one) just to see if I got a good deal or not and I've yet to find a better deal. fans can be loud, but I leave it plugged in all the time to the electricity and rarely take it with me anywhere and I've never run it off of the battery for any length of time. What do you guys expect for a gaming machine anyway? MSI makes the best gaming laptops that money can buy and the technical support is the best in the industry. Sometimes it does crash, but I figure that's only because I have a lot of different software installed and I leave a lot of different things running all the time. I did run Autoruns recently and I didn't find anything suspicious and I've got Norton 360 Ultimate and CCleaner on it also. I also have it hooked up to a high end flat panel Dell 32' 4K monitor and external Logitech non-gaming mechanical keyboard and a Razor corded gaming mouse which is very comfortable and a hub and a dock and lots of hard drives and flash drives.

Just for the heck of it:
please respond if you got a laptop with the same or better specs for a lower price. I bet you can't beat the deal I got.

 

[kb7rky]

This is why I don't use a laptop for gaming. They're overbuilt for that purpose, yet given an anemic CPU, a crappy display, questionable battery capacity, and severely limited RAM (in most cases, this can't be upgraded).

Thanks, manufacturers, but, until your lappies can vastly outperform a good old-fashioned desktop for gaming, I'll just stick with that.

 

[abufrejoval]

I bought this model and it came with 12th gen core i7, 16 GB RAM and 512 SSD and 4060 graphics. I only paid $750 before taxes and shipping for it. Then I upgraded it to a crucial 700 4 TB SSD and 64 GBs of Corsair 4800 vengence memory and it runs just fine, but I haven't done any gaming on it yet other than a game called Pinball F/X. My old desktop is a Dell windows 10 machine and it was over 15 years old and I often look on this site and other sites just for kicks to see if there is a better deal out there (even though I have no intention of buying a better one) just to see if I got a good deal or not and I've yet to find a better deal. fans can be loud, but I leave it plugged in all the time to the electricity and rarely take it with me anywhere and I've never run it off of the battery for any length of time. What do you guys expect for a gaming machine anyway? MSI makes the best gaming laptops that money can buy and the technical support is the best in the industry. Sometimes it does crash, but I figure that's only because I have a lot of different software installed and I leave a lot of different things running all the time. I did run Autoruns recently and I didn't find anything suspicious and I've got Norton 360 Ultimate and CCleaner on it also. I also have it hooked up to a high end flat panel Dell 32' 4K monitor and external Logitech non-gaming mechanical keyboard and a Razor corded gaming mouse which is very comfortable and a hub and a dock and lots of hard drives and flash drives.

Just for the heck of it:
please respond if you got a laptop with the same or better specs for a lower price. I bet you can't beat the deal I got.

I got the LOQ also with an RTX 4060 but a Cezanne 8-core for €750 (including taxes) and then upgraded everything in a socket (4TB NVMe, AX200 Wifi, 64GB DDR5-5600 RAM), while still getting basically an RTX 4060 for free.

For gaming the RTX 4060 is much more important with twice the Wattage and performance to throw at it: the 4050 is hopelessly underpowered and even an Alder-Lake i7 may be a bit of overkill (and require too much cooling).

And the LOQ come with a 2nd fan, which helps a lot cooling the nearly 200 Watts this combination could reach in peak (it's more like 150 Watts peak and 100 Watts average).

The LOQ has three very nice presets available via hot-key combos, which allow you to choose between the last bit of performance, enforced quietness and something "balanced".

I really like the LOQ as a rounded system, very economical and yet able to run everything I thow at it at good performance. I was really quite surprised at how well the Cezanne is doing it's job, too. Got two i7-12700H Alder-Lakes and a Phoenix Ryzen 7 and don't really like going for "castrated" or lower-bin chips. But this APU without an iGPU is actually an almost better match to the RTX 4060 than anything else, especially in terms of drivers and mixed Linux/Windows use.

 

[rockerrb3]

What is an LOQ and Cezanne? Never heard of those brands before. Are they only sold in Europe?

 

[abufrejoval]

What is an LOQ and Cezanne? Never heard of those brands before. Are they only sold in Europe?

This article is part of a series, which examines budget gaming laptops. And I guess I assumed that my comments would mostly be read by those who followed the series.

As an article author, I'd have provided proper references and checked for errors... I hope 🙂

The Lenovo LOQ 15 ARP9 was reviewed just a bit earlier and that happened to be the machine I also bought, but much cheaper yet, at €750 including taxes.

Cezanne is an AMD code name that refers to a generation of Zen 3 based APUs.

In the case of the LOQ it's actually a "Rembrandt-R" based chip, but since the upgrade from Cezanne to Rembrandt and then its refresh mostly involved the GPU side and since this specific Ryzen 7 7435HS actually lacks an iGPU, it's still very much a Cezanne CPU at its heart, hence my admittedly inprecise naming of the chip: it is actually the other much earlier painter from Holland, not the French impressionist.

Nope, they are certainly no European local brand or specialty, but localized and sold globally.

And I'm still extremely happy with it, believing I got a great deal and a very well balanced system ...especially after spending the money I saved on some significant upgrades.