MSI Eclipse Plus: Does nForce 200 Boost 3-Way SLI?

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umm to me I thought the shared thing is really for people wanting only 2x V Cards ? or using other devices in PCI-E slot

ie WHat happens if you haev 2x 16x V Cards Plus 1x 8x Raid Controller ?

Wouldn't the MSI be the better board as both V cards get almost full 16x Speed Whist the Raid Controller could be Idling away ?

Unlike the Asus that would only offer 16x 8x V cards plus 8x to an Idle Raid Controller ??


Those PCI Slots are used for more then just SLi'ing a pile of GPU's 😛
 
Well,This just proves again the PCIe 2.0 GPU's don't even use 8X much less 16X,I think around 6X,because even 4X is only a little slower.

I think PCIe X16 will be around a wile.
 
nVidia seems to be putting most of their research dollars into ion, CUDA, openCL, physX, tesla, all that stuff. I wonder if they are spending any money on chipset development for socket 1366, I know intel won't let them but we really need the competition, just in case they ever win a lawsuit in court that lets them do it. This article just makes them look bad trying to push that worthless n200 chip on people. Seems to me it would be wise from a developmental standpoint to continue making AMD boards also, even if they are rivals in the video market.
 
[citation][nom]stumpystumped[/nom]tri GTX295 that's a lot of power consumption.[/citation]
It's also not possible....

Crysis is barely playable at 2560x1600 and very-high detail levels, but the performance difference between motherboards is barely noticeable. Will adding AA emphasize that difference?
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Yea, 40 FPS is barely playable...

Fortunately, this was a pretty good article. Hopefully, more to come?
 
how about trying the ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer with 2 nForce 200,
to see if it's msi that doesn't know what they are doing,
and if Asus can make it work better.

then there is basis for trying out crossfire 4-way,
versus 3-way SLI.

Tindytim 05/06/2009 10:41 PM

Miribus :
The best case scenario is 4 cards with x8 PCIe, 1 more with x4 PCIe and two more with x1. Despite the 7 PCIe x16 slots, you are not getting 112 PCIe lanes back to the chipset/processor, you are still only getting 38 lanes

Tindytim:
Where the hell are you getting you're numbers?
All of the information I've gotten says the nForce 200 chipset has 62 PCI-e lanes, 32 of which are PCI-e 2.0. Now, this board has 2 nForce chipsets, giving it a total 124 PCI-e lanes, 64 of which are PCI-e 2.0.
Meaning you could stick 4 dual slot Tesla cards on this Mobo
with each getting x16 2.0 bandwidth, and still have plenty of bandwidth left over.

sandcomp :
Never heard CUDA-based can help in cloud computing,
maybe good in animation rendering, but cloud computing?

Tindytim:
Look at GPGPU technology:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPGPU
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Just think of the folding juice this would provide :)
 
1. Poor results for x16,x16,x4 mean that SLI bridge is not enough for GTX 285 and they have to use the PCIe interface. And as nVIDIA cards just can not utilise more than 1/4 of PCIe v.1.1 bandwidth, the x4 link is just insuffisient for the setup (not enough lanes - not the bandwidth). On the other hand, x16,x8,x8 domination over x16 + 2 x "nVIDIA x16" means that I put the quoutes correctly - nForce 200 just can not support switching even the half of the PCIe v.1.1 bandwidth.

I wonder if iny vendor will install PLX 1:3 x16 switch - think will be at least no worse than x16,x8,x8
 
people to read the specs on sli before trying to use it


in most cases using tri or quad sli your throughput is to 16x pathway is only half way used..


in theory you should be able to use the full pci-e 2.0 spec at 16x due to it's shared medium of the pic-e bus though in this reality it's not possible as your speed is quarter to half that power..

there is only 1 way i could see a 16x speed across all pci-e buses is if there was a custom mobo built to support multiple cpu's in a tri or in a quad pci-e vid card configuration..


current generation mobo's aren't up to the task, looking at this articles indcation, tri sli is a gimmick to make physx games act the way they should with impact physics and so forth.

speed isn't a real concern for a vid card that is being used as a render and visual tool.. in a tri sli configuration..
 
[citation][nom]apache_lives[/nom]Nvidia chipsets are no match to Intel chipsets (drivers, overclocking, stability, reliability), and with Intel having SLI support theres no point in an Nvidia chipset.As for MSI - i wouldnt even spend $50 on an MSI product let alone this product - they are RUBBISH cheap crap poorly designed products.[/citation]

nVIDIA chipsets max throughput is 1.2GB/s - a bit more than one PCIe x4 v.1.1 - and you want that rubbish to be used with Core i7? Even VIA makes better chipsets (at least for AMD)! And SLI is a pure software technology - can not understand USA anti-monopoly body not to fine nVIDIA for "sertification"
 
Keep wondering if these "hubs" will be a sufficient sollution, what about the Asus P6T7 WS Supercomputer? I what I keep wondering is what happens if I stick two 4890s a PCIe SSD and a fibrecard in these slots? What will the performance look like once all components start eating up bandwidth? Let alone audio playback etc, I still have nightmares about the RAID-controller on the old A8N32SLi-Deluxe board where as soon as the raidcontroller fired off sound io got interupted which resulted in numerous retakes etc.
 
[citation][nom]KyleSTL[/nom]Really? Because most reviews I've seen show that nVidia chipsets have inferior peripheral performance. Also, in the board you mentioned that is the only way to get SLI on a S775 platform, so your hands are tied if you want/prefer nVidia graphics cards.[/citation]

I always check the bechmarks before I buy a board and Tom's had the 680I and the 790I beating intel chipsets (the 790 just barley)and a few other sites showed this as well(I can't remember which. It's been a while). I always always go with Nvidia graphic becasue they always beat out ATI.
 

This just proves you're biased and I don't trust your judgement.
 
[citation][nom]KyleSTL[/nom]This just proves you're biased and I don't trust your judgement.[/citation]

Do you know what biased means? Nevermind.... I go with whatever product performs best. And Nvidia and Intel have ruled for a long time. Look at the benchmarks. They speak for themselves.
 
They rule in the high end, yes. If you have money to burn then NVIDIA it is, however in the mid-range market the differences are smaller and it's application dependent. Throw a 4870 against a GTX280 in GRID and watch the 280 crumble in a shader-heavy environment.
 
MSI products are rock solid..... They never fail as far as the 500 boards i've sold in India...... Their graphics cards(high end radeons) are excellent and overclock like a monster.....
 
MSI products are rock solid..... They never fail as far as the 500 boards i've sold in India...... Their graphics cards(high end radeons) are excellent and overclock like a monster.....
 


NForce 200 doesn't use any drivers, it's transparent to everything.
 
[citation][nom]TheGreatGrapeApe[/nom]Good Info ! Great Job as usual CRASH !!![/citation]

Thanks Ape, we kept you in mind!

[citation][nom]bin1127[/nom]How does a 850 watt power supply churn out 950 during the gpu stress test? Stalker and Crysis raped triple SLI, LOL[/citation]

You mean consume 950W? If the power supply was running at 85% efficiency, that would be an 808W output. It's more likely the power supply was running at around 80% efficiency, which is 760W output.

 
MSI is really innovative.. i had an Asus M2Nsli w nforce 560 sli.. it had so many isues it drove me to get an MSI K9N2 Platinum w nforce 750aSli and i have been loving it since. MSI has craftmanship and quality over their entire line.
 
Obviously Tri-SLI is not in full use with all these boards...which leads me to really believe its a waste of money. I mean really, you get only minimal performance boost on Tri/Cross on all these X58 boards with these articles i am looking at, and they should be toop of the line...top notch boards boosting performaces beyond what we are seeing. x16 + x16 + x16 should be dominating all other configurations...i don't care if its MSI or Asus or Gigabyte who does it. There seems to be a HUGE lack of bandwidth going through 3 cards at the same time...and i'm not sure if its just a driver problem or PCIe's are not putting out enough even with PCIe 2.0. We should be looking at 150fps on Crysis at the highest settings for a solid build...but the results have been the same for a long time now. Not satisfying to see this at all...
 
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