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I am going to do a build (only in like 6 months or so) but i have no clue on what motherboard to choose.
I do have a budget, but i am able to stretch it a little bit.(i cant tell excact budget in dollars as i am not an american).

So what features does msi have over asus and asus over msi? I am thinking z97 g45/65 vs maximus vii ranger

I will not be overclocking(i do need some Zxx features though)

I have heard many things about asus software, but mostly about overclocking and fan control - i might buy a fan controller too so their fan expert doesnt mean alot(except if it is really good the price of rog motherboard matches msi's gaming)
 
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The ASUS SupremeFX is a lot of marketing IMO but it indeed it one of the best built in sound options on a motherboard.
MSI uses the Realtek ALC1150 Codec and ASUS uses a modified version of it so I expect them to be close with the ASUS a bit better (they also include more software).

They both have the same amount of fan connectors. But it is ASUS that has the better fan control, it is easier to use also because of their very good BIOS. Also I would say the ROG features are better then the MSI gaming features. The ROG has more of a premium feel, but that is my personal opinion.

Both are great boards based on pure performance the Maximus VII Ranger
Based on price/performance here in Holland the MSI board costs €20 less then the Ranger...
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first of all... 6 months is pretty far ahead in the computer world.... i wouldnt even worry about it for another 5 months.

second, if you're not overclocking, just grab the entry level board.
entry level stuffi s so good these days, there's rarely a reason to buy the mid/high end boards.

 
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Agreed .... the Z97 is brand new and we don't know what if any issues are associated with either. In 5 months time, there will be plenty of data. Just typed this in another post

MoBo - Use the compare function on newegg site and you will find that the MSI Z97 GD-65 and Asus Z97 Hero are a virtual match feature for feature and the GD-65 is $40 cheaper. The reviews on the Z87 GD65 were absolutely glowing and the Z97 is the same board with the new chip. The current Hero, and many other Asus Z87 boards have been plagued by the BIOS Clock Freeeze bug. I had been using Asus boards from the $250 price point and up and the MSI boards below that simply from a value / component / performance perspective.

My personal M6F is so afflicted and have two users I am trying to help with Hero builds, whereas none of the MSI builds I have been involved with have had as much of a hiccup.

At one point Asus had come up with a fix but it's temporary only. I have had to apply "the fix' several times over the last 3 days including this morning. Not a big deal replacing / clearing the BIOS but replicating the OC settings for 8 different OC profiles is a real PITA.

Asus is working on the problem. So far I have no indication whether or not the problem is appearing on the Z97, but until we know one way or another or until a fix is out, I would hold off on any Asus 1150 based builds.

The Fix that wasn't a fix
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?36676-Frozen-Time-Clock-in-UEFI-The-Fix

The issue on the Hero
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33895-Hero-Time-Clock-Problem

Again, I'm hoping that the Z97 boards are not so afflicted but at this point can't say one way or another. Hopefully, by the time you are ready to build Asus will have figured this out and a permanent fix will be available.

Haven't seen many roundup reviews as yet ... this one isn't very detailed but it's there:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mainstream-gaming-z97-motherboard,3824-27.html
 
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I am researching the exact same question ATM I have found some stuff:
1) ASUS fans will ALWAYS go for an ASUS board above ANY other board in that price range.
2) ASUS does make good quality boards but the MSI gaming ones are damn fine too.
3) In gaming performance therms they are almost the same so get whichever one has the features you like: the ROG features or the MSI gaming features.
4) Price will be a deciding factor too ROG boards are a bit more expensive then MSI gaming boards.

Where did you find the Maximus VII ranger if I may ask? Because I can only find it here in Europe and I could not find a store that sells it in the US.
 
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Sorry for not responding, for some reason i got error code 500 when trying to get into this thread.

Yes, i know i might be a little early, but in general, i was thinking a gaming msi or rog asus board, maybe this generation, maybe next(for boards i mean)

Getting a low end board with the features i want, is quite difficult, where the g45 is the bare minimum for what i want.
3. Could you be very kind and link a video or an article showing off this software? :)
 
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The software is about the same:
http://rog.asus.com/78012012/overclocking/discover-the-benefits-of-fan-xpert/
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z97GD65_GAMING.html#overview

You can run custom cooling profiles and monitor temperature or status of the fans. No real difference on this feature between the 2 boards.
 
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ASUS specs: http://www.eteknix.com/asus-republic-of-gamers-maximus-vii-ranger-z97-lga-1150-motherboard-review/
MSI specs: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z97GD65_GAMING.html#specification

About the specs it comes down to how many SATA ports you want but that is not such a big deal.

Now about the features:
The ASUS comes with a good build in sound card (no idea how else to call it). They also have a lot of gaming features:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VII_RANGER/
All features they have are on the site.
MSI has features that are much like the ROG board because both are gaming boards. It also has a audio boost thing. Special OC features, fancy BIOS.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z97GD65_GAMING.html#overview

To sum it up the ROG comes with a very good BIOS, Fan control, a bit better sound, good OC support and quality parts.
The MSI comes with fan control, good OC support, fancy BIOS (almost as good as the ROG very easy to use).
They are also very much alike here. Though I must say I like the ROG features a bit better then the MSI gaming features, ROG has more of them and also some very cool ones like the KeyBot and Allround Protection or RAMdisc.

Though the ROG board also has some software licenses with it: Kaspersky internet security, Daemon tools and some other things.
You can't really go wrong with either one I think it comes down to price (and maybe a bit of brand preference 😉) and customer reviews.

Which features would you be interested in the most?
 
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The ASUS SupremeFX is a lot of marketing IMO but it indeed it one of the best built in sound options on a motherboard.
MSI uses the Realtek ALC1150 Codec and ASUS uses a modified version of it so I expect them to be close with the ASUS a bit better (they also include more software).

They both have the same amount of fan connectors. But it is ASUS that has the better fan control, it is easier to use also because of their very good BIOS. Also I would say the ROG features are better then the MSI gaming features. The ROG has more of a premium feel, but that is my personal opinion.

Both are great boards based on pure performance the Maximus VII Ranger
Based on price/performance here in Holland the MSI board costs €20 less then the Ranger so if you really need the €20 then the MSI GD65 gaming is a great board too, but I would really recommend the Maximus VII Ranger.
 
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Yes price, quality and features are the deciding factors. Though I think they are all very good on the ROG board for ROG standards the price is reasonable. But MSI gaming boards can't be overlooked too. Quality on both the boards is good.
Final words: I am leaning towards ASUS for the good BIOS, features and the good quality so I would recommend you the ASUS.
If you really need the money I would recommend the MSI gaming.
 
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Reason i did not go with oc is because xeon e3 1230v3. They are apparently pretty good ;-)(and then i dont have do spend alot on cooling)

in 6 months? i heard the devils canyon unlocked cpus should be released in a week or two :)
 
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Yes i know but I mean when you are making your build they are released so you can make use of them they will have better thermal interface material so they run cooler and can be overclocked better. Both are good picks for gaming OC doesn't matter too much. I would only go for OC if you have a real benchmark/OC fetish. Over 2 years maybe it is of real use when you need your CPU to be faster to not bottleneck your GPU. But then you can always upgrade your CPU.
It is only of use in the non-gaming stuff where you will see the difference of a higher clocked CPU.
 
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People still use 1st gen i7's so i dont think the xeon will bottleneck for a long time :) I actually hate oc a little on the cpu, because you need to spend so much on it and then there is degrading and temps, all the time put into overclocking just...
 
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MSI z97 Gaming 7 is better than Z97 Ranger. Their sound and NiC quality are about the same but MSI one is better in power regulation. More efficient and better overclock stability. But Gigabyte z97 Gaming 7 is way better than both. True 8 digital phases (MSI is 6 and Ranger is 4 true phases) better overclock stability and power efficiency, lots of features, great sound and NiC. I would consider Giga>MSI>Asus ranger here.
 
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What does the digital phases do? If it is just for slightly better overclocks, i would be just as happy with 4 as 4 million.

btw - the motherboards you are talking about, the ranger is the cheapest. Also the gigabyte one has worse pci lanes i guess(4x and 8x with sli/crossfire and 16x single. If there should be any alternative, it should be the g1.sniper z97 from gigabyte/or the asus/msi motherboards i have mentioned.
 
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No, PCI lanes are the same. It's the standard values. When you use single gpu it's 16x, when you use dual it's 8x unless you have a lga2011 motherboard.

Digital phase means better overclocks yes. But also more efficient power usage. Also more phases means better heat dissipation and lower load on components and lower heat overall. And Gigabyte is currently using better controllers in their mid-range offerings. They are really generous about overall vrm quality.

Let's imagine you get hungry. When you get hungry you simply eat until you get full no? Maybe eat a bit more. That's how an analog pwm work. With digital pwm you'll know when you get hungry and how much you need to eat to get full. It's much more efficient and precise. In real life the difference is not day&night maybe. But why get subpar product when you can buy a better one?
 
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Because he is not going to overclock and he only wants the Z87/Z97 features. Then why spend a lot of money on a motherboard.
The VII Ranger is a good board and the max I would get if you are not going to overclock.
 
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