MSI GeForce RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti GPUs Smile for the Camera

[kinggremlin]

I have a strong feeling that they are doing a 12nm large die for a new xx80ti and titan. Then everything else is going to be a rebrand of existing chips(the old 1080ti die is the new xx80, the old 1080 die is the new 1070 and 1060 etc). If that's true....it makes perfect sense to lead with the new xx80ti.

The article says they're both Turing-based and have tensor cores. So, the highest rebrand would have to be 2070.

The rumored specs are almost certainly accurate at this point. The 2070 and 2080 are based on the same die (same as Quadro RTX 5000). Multiple companies are talking about the ray tracing capabilities of the 2070. It has to be Turing based for that to be the case which is why it is called the 2070 RTX, while everything below is still GTX. The 2080Ti is based on the larger Turing die (Quadro RTX 6000/8000).

 

[mac_angel]

not reading through all the comments, but I doubt I'm the only one thinking those pics look like they were created by an amateur and photoshop.

 

[micah.a.goldstein]

Legit or not, those are renders, not photographs.

 

[cryoburner]

It depends what they release. I have a strong feeling that they are doing a 12nm large die for a new xx80ti and titan. Then everything else is going to be a rebrand of existing chips(the old 1080ti die is the new xx80, the old 1080 die is the new 1070 and 1060 etc). If that's true....it makes perfect sense to lead with the new xx80ti.

With the crash of crypto, the supposed overstock of pascal dies, as well as 7nm not being ready yet.....it would make a whole lot of sense to make 1(maybe 2) new die on 12nm(which is really just 16nm with a larger reticle limit) for the high end, and then rebrand everything else for the other segments.

I am not saying this is what they are going to do, just what i think they will do.

Some recent leaks have indicated that the 2070 and above will use RTX branding, while 2060 and below may continue to use GTX branding. If that turns out to be true, then it implies that at least the RTX cards will likely be new designs incorporating raytracing hardware (hence the RTX). And if the rumors of a GTX 2060 with 5GB of GDDR6 are to be believed, then that also won't be a simple rebrand, even if it were to use a Pascal-based chip. I also kind of doubt that they would rebrand the 1060 as a 2050, as they likely want those cards to be compatible with systems without additional power connectors, and available in low-profile options.

The RTX Titan and 2080 Ti might be based around one new chip, and the RTX 2080 and 2070 around another. The 2060, 2050, and 2030 could each be based on new chips as well, but it will likely take months for each of those to come out, giving them time to ramp up production and sell off existing cards.

After 11, they could have moved on to 12 and so on. Now, going from 20 to 21 will seem so lame. So by that measure, I guess they will move on to 30 after 20? Sheesh!

People in marketing are often idiots!

By changing the first number, it keeps the product names visually distinct, whereas if they went with 1180, 1280, 1380, that "1" is just sort of hanging out there, making them look too similar. Nvidia has always changed the first number of their product names from one generation to the next, at least since they started primarily using numbers to classify them, so it makes some sense that the trend would continue.

Also, people tend to have certain psychological responses to various numbers, and the number itself can make a potential customer feel differently about a product. Some numbers are simply more marketable for a given product than others, which can explain why certain numbers are sometimes skipped.

 

[bit_user]

appears to draw its power from two eight-pin PCIe power connectors, which means it can pull up to 375W

Um... perhaps you meant 275 W?

Each 8pin is capable of delivering up to 150w (if you're running to spec) and upto 75w from the pci-e slot.

Huh. I was pretty sure 6 pin was good for 75 W and 8-pin was good for 100 W, each. My GPU is rated at 275 W and has 2x 8-pin. If 6 + 8 gets you to 300 W, then it's curious why they didn't just go with that. Perhaps they just wanted more headroom for OC or poor power regulation by the card.

According to this, you're right about 8-pin being 150 W, but the 6-pin cable is indeed limited to 75 W:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#Power

Most cards don't draw anywhere near 75w from the pci-e slot though, exceptions being cards with no extra pci-e power plugs and cards like the RX 480.

You mean the RX 460? RX 480 was officially rated at 150 W and definitely had PCIe power connctors.

 

[rantoc]

Why didn't they add the NV Bridge needed for SLI... the one that costs as much as 1/2 a Removed card for no real reason?
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