MSI vs. ECS vs. ABIT vs DFI vs. Epox

[JonathanDeane]

They crash(restart/BSOD) before they can even reach the temperature to pop.
You know jackass about overclocking A64. Just STFU and listen.

I am listening and when they BSOD just exactly what is happening ? and I already said in my original post that im not an expert... wich you already pointed out. Your an expert at pointing out off topic things like "Know what your talking about or STFU" and im here to learn if I didnt participate how would I know anything ? and to the person who said buying lower end chips to OC. I totaly agree you are more likely to get a good OC on those. (still no where's near 100% chance of getting a good OC regardless of what a zealot will tell you) Im not saying that A64's cant hit a 50% OC I have seen it im just saying those are not the norm. I have a 2.4Ghz P4 @ 3.4 and its been like that for 2 years. But I wouldnt say "hey you can get a 40% on all P4's".... I got lucky its temps are nice and its fast im happy. The P4 it replaced was a 1.8Ghz POS that would only run at 2Ghz and that was with crashes.

Moral of the story If it doesnt OC to the hights you expect will you still be happy ? The answer would depend on if your expecting it or not.

Edit: I tried to resist... but "AMD/Intel can't tell if you've overclocked the chip(as long as there's no physical marking)." Where would this physical marking come from ? Dont bother answering I already know.

 

[pengwin]

ooo, flame thread, but once again, i am right about OCing an Opty 144 it will reach 2.4 Ghz easily with a zalman 7000-Cu LED

 

[JonathanDeane]

If you had a socket 940 this place has them for a little more then 100$

http://www.compuvest.us/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=148831

But you probably have socket 939 and this was the best price I could find there

http://www.xl-pc.com/scr/xtcat.dll/item?pr=1&opt=4&item=AMD-OP-144

126$ isnt bad at all Good luck with the OC ! and yeah I would replace the stock cooler too, not that they are not good just always a good idea to keep them as cool as possible. Im thinking about ordering this cooler myself.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106061

 

[JonathanDeane]

Learn passively.
And we're not talking about percentage here, we're talking about hitting 2.4Ghz(as stated in your first post) which is relatively easy on any 90nm A64s.

People learn much better when they are involved... teaching lessons withstanding, I wouldnt promise some one they can OC something from 1.8Ghz to 2.4Ghz yes it happens and it happens alot but would you say it happens 100% of the time ? I wouldnt and I didnt. I will agree that I was lowballing in my first post but since they where asking it sounded like they where new at OCing and setting up some one to expect a good OC there first time out is just bad buisness. I still think AMD is realy good at binning

 

[pengwin]

ok, stop fighting, 1.8 to 2.4 Ghz will happen easily, ill have PC4000 (DDR500) with a good PSU on an Abit KN8. it'll hit 2.4 easily, also ill have a zalman 7700-Cu LED on it

 

[drummerdude]

i'd hate to ask, but what's the verdict on the motherboard? everything went on a tangent talking about everything but the orginal post.

 

[weskurtz81]

I would either go with Asus or DFI.... both are quality.... both OC well.... I have an Asus A8N SLI Premium, just dropped an opty 144 in it..... ran it up to just above 3ghz on air..... I think that the mobo is however topped out an not the CPU.... because it passes prime at that setting, but..... I bump the fsb up by one.... and it won't even boot.... I have never had one happen like that before.... they would always boot but not pass prime in windows.... so for a higher OC I am waiting on a DFI rma.... I have achieved a 400FSB on a Ultra D once.... stable prime..... anyway.... off to work

 

[uber_g]

the price Epox , Very very good overclocking


the name , stability DFI



both Boards r really rreally good


i totally agree with Wusy

😀

 

[pengwin]

hmm

any thing on the Abit KN8 Sli?

 

[BUFF]

The Abit's fine for external clock of 300+.
Newegg are doing the AN8 SLI for only a $1 more though ...

When you get 1 come join the community at the Abit-USA forums

 

[Anoobis]

I just bought the KN8-SLI from ZZZ a few weeks back. They had a deal with a $20.00 mail-in rebate. I didn't plan on getting a SLI board, but this board had the features on it I was looking for and came in either cheaper or at the same cost as the non-SLI boards I was planning on getting. The passive cooling is also a nice feature.

Abit's always been good to me and you should have no problem overclocking with this board.

 

[pengwin]

which crossfire mother board would you guys recommend?

the nothing too much over 100 please, and the most stable + best Overclocker.



i kno the DFI would be best for OCing but i dont have that kind of money.

 

[BUFF]

the nothing too much over 100 please, and the most stable + best Overclocker.

That budget severely limits you - basically to an RD480 board.
I had an Abit AT8 (since upgraded to AT8 32X) & it was fine but it's discontinued since RD580.
You've got the Asus A8R-MVP but a lot of people were very unhappy with the voltage regulation on that etc.

Sapphire A9RD580 Advantage might be worth a punt but I would look for some user feedback first.

 

[desilver]

Don't get confused, it isn't an A8N-SLI Deluxe or Premium - just A8N-SLI

There seems to be something going on about these boards, due to the fact
that I was concidering the A8N-SLI delux simply on features to puchase I was woundering what the issues are if any.

Perhaps I'll go and get the MSI-diamond.

 

[weskurtz81]

I have had great luck with the Premium, the Deluxe looks great to, but you will lose a PCI slot if you use the PCI-E slot closest to the cpu.

 

[vimka]

For OCing,

DFI > All

They are super-stable too, which is always good 😀

 

[pengwin]

my bro is gettin the Abit AT8 RD480 from Zipzoom for $112 which is a good deal.

we'll see how it preforms

 

[SuperFly03]

I am still working on my RD580 board. It is not playing nice with my wireless PCI card. In fact anytime I have the antenna connected during boot it locks up but if I remove the antenna it boots fine, now thats nuts.

If I can get SLI working and nail down my ethernet adapter problems ( so I don't have to use wi-fi pci card) I'll be very happy with this board and I can get to tinkering.

So far I am just as happy with this DFi board as my last one, just hope I don't pop another capacitor.

 

[BUFF]

my bro is gettin the Abit AT8 RD480

update the BIOS to 11 when he gets it.
& he can visit the Abit forums too

 

[BUFF]

From what I understand the VNF4 isn't a bad board & your RAM is fine.
There is a Chaintech forum at PCPer as well as here & they should be able to help you get higher.