MSI Z97-G43 anyone?

[Mr Drummer]

I'm thinking alot what motherboard to go along with the 4690K (second hand) i just bought and wonder if anyone have tried the "MSI Z97-G43" and if it's a good board?

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z97-G43.html#hero-overview

 

[Tradesman1]

I'd look to Asus, the Rock or GB for a mobo, won't touch MSI due to their poor QC

 

[Mr Drummer]

What do you mean by poor OC, from what i've read it's a great board for overclocking?

 

[Tradesman1]

In general, MSI is known for poor Quality Control, which is why I won't touch them for client builds, see too many arrive DOA or have components go bad within a month or two. If you get a good one, they are pretty good, as a builder I don't like taking chances and having to RMA and rebuild. I stick with Asus, the Rock, and GB.....their mobos are much more dependable from the Quality Control end

 

[Mr Drummer]

In general, MSI is known for poor Quality Control, which is why I won't touch them for client builds, see too many arrive DOA or have components go bad within a month or two. If you get a good one, they are pretty good, as a builder I don't like taking chances and having to RMA and rebuild. I stick with Asus, the Rock, and GB.....their mobos are much more dependable from the Quality Control end

i was on the verge of order that particular MSI board but i trust you and will cancel it right away, thanks for the warning. Any other motherboard suggestion in the 130USD price range. Haven't even thought about Gigabyte btw.

 

[Tradesman1]

With the Rock, the Fatal1ty Z97 Killer is a very good mobo at that price point, also GB has their GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK and Asus has the Z97-E

 

[Mr Drummer]

How about the ASUS Z97-AR?

 

[Tradesman1]

Very good also, it's the same basic mobo as the A with the exception (I believe) of the on board video outputs

 

[Mr Drummer]

Very good also, it's the same basic mobo as the A with the exception (I believe) of the on board video outputs

I'm very thankful that you warned me about MSI, Have they always been known for bad quality control? I hear alot of people mentioning how good their Krait edition of motherboards look and how easy their UEFI is to come to grips with. Maybe one should take this praise with a grain of salt then.

 

[Tradesman1]

I started noting it around 2009 when their sales started dropping, they were #3 in overall sales at the time, in 2010 or so ASRock passed them for #3, then in early 2011 after the release of the P67 mobos and subsequent recall, when the revised P67s were released, a number of the MSI models had overly tight DRAM sockets which caused rigs to go into endless boot loops, even though it was a well known problem, (I ran into a number of them) when you called MSI, they would say they never heard of the issue, but were rather quick to issue a RMA, sales continued to drop, and more problems arose. They did about the same with some Z87 models and their Killer NICs needing a BIOS update after release. But generally if there is a problem with a line or model of a mobo it a central problem, with MSI you see bad PCI slots, bad USB ports, ethernet ports, DRAM slots/channel problems, etc. Need to invest a little more on their QC inspections on the production lines

 

[Mr Drummer]

I started noting it around 2009 when their sales started dropping, they were #3 in overall sales at the time, in 2010 or so ASRock passed them for #3, then in early 2011 after the release of the P67 mobos and subsequent recall, when the revised P67s were released, a number of the MSI models had overly tight DRAM sockets which caused rigs to go into endless boot loops, even though it was a well known problem, (I ran into a number of them) when you called MSI, they would say they never heard of the issue, but were rather quick to issue a RMA, sales continued to drop, and more problems arose. They did about the same with some Z87 models and their Killer NICs needing a BIOS update after release. But generally if there is a problem with a line or model of a mobo it a central problem, with MSI you see bad PCI slots, bad USB ports, ethernet ports, DRAM slots/channel problems, etc. Need to invest a little more on their QC inspections on the production lines

Interesting, i who always thought that Asrock (btw wasn't that a Company a part of Asus once?) and Gigabyte was at the bottom of the "trust-list". i've searched the web all day for a reliable motherboard that fits my budget and thought MSI Z97-G43 was the answer. i'm glad i managed to cancel that order before it was too late .)

 

[Tradesman1]

The Rock originated as a Asus company making lower end mobos, then split away and started to really come into their own, GB has long been the #2 maker of mobos, behind Asus. The Rock is a distant 3rd, but shows gains yearly and MSI continues to fall behind the Rock

 

[Mr Drummer]

The Rock originated as a Asus company making lower end mobos, then split away and started to really come into their own, GB has long been the #2 maker of mobos, behind Asus. The Rock is a distant 3rd, but shows gains yearly and MSI continues to fall behind the Rock

The first PC i bought myself was based around a Asrock motherboard. The cool thing back then was that the mobo had an PCI-E slot which i plugged a "beefy" Palit Geforce 6600GT (128mb) into.

 

[Tradesman1]

I've used a lot of them over the years, picked up their Z77 Extreme 4 to test when I got a 3570K for beta testing and never changed, turned out to be the best selling and highest rated Z77 out there, also used their P67 Fatal1ty for my previous 2500K rig

 

[Mr Drummer]

I've used a lot of them over the years, picked up their Z77 Extreme 4 to test when I got a 3570K for beta testing and never changed, turned out to be the best selling and highest rated Z77 out there, also used their P67 Fatal1ty for my previous 2500K rig

Maybe i'll pick up a Asrock motherboard in the future then, for now i've finally come to the conclution that Asus Z97-AR is my best bet. Whatever i choose it'll be a revelation though since i'm upgrading from a Asus P5Q-E (LGA775). I'm especially looking forward to this "Click Bios" that all the kids are talking about .)

 

[Mr Drummer]

I've used a lot of them over the years, picked up their Z77 Extreme 4 to test when I got a 3570K for beta testing and never changed, turned out to be the best selling and highest rated Z77 out there, also used their P67 Fatal1ty for my previous 2500K rig

So do you think a Corsair VX450 (450W) will be able to power all this, alot of people have told me it will but i'm unsure? I'll disable C-state in the BIOS of course. If not maybe a cheap "Cooler Master GM 550W 80plus bronze" will?

 

[Tradesman1]

What GPU?

 

[Mr Drummer]

What GPU?

ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5

http://www.amazon.com/GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5-GeForce-256-bit-PCI-Express-OC-selected/dp/B00D3F7CFK

 

[Tradesman1]

770 drags some power, I'd look to a 600 with at least 42 AMPs on the 12 volt rail

 

[jeffredo]

MSI has pretty well cleaned up their act quality wise. ASUS seems to the be one in the slow slide towards mediocrity. ASRock is one of the worst. Of the major companies Gigabyte and MSI are probably the two best in 2015.

 

[Mr Drummer]

770 drags some power, I'd look to a 600 with at least 42 AMPs on the 12 volt rail

I works fine in my current rig though...with a VX450. the Cooler Master GM 550W 80plus bronze is on sale for about 47USD, would that work you think?



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ASUS GTX770-DC2OC-2GD5

 

[Tradesman1]

Can try it, wouldn't be doing any OCing with it 😉

 

[Mr Drummer]

Can try it, wouldn't be doing any OCing with it 😉

How about the Cooler Master PSU i mentioned?

 

[Tradesman1]

Yes

 

[Mr Drummer]

Yes

i Went ahead and bought it so i hope it'll suffice