My new rig... Prepare to be PWNED!!!!

[TTZX]

I'd say scottchen's system Pwns all!!

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P4 2.4C @ 3.0GHz 1.525V Stock HSF
Abit IS7 BIOS v1.3 GAT Auto
Corsair XMS 512MB TwinX3200C2 2-3-3-6
GeForce4 Ti4200 AGP8X 128MB
Seagate Barracuda 80GB SATA

 

[redstar]

very nice..

put have you seen the numbers posted by amd 64/opteron (32 bit scores)

has a 64 bit future already there

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1856&p=11

(keep in mind this is a preview)

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by redstar on 09/10/03 04:58 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[daddywags214]

Not discouraged at all. I know that a 2500+ could never touch a p4c 3.2. I was looking for areas to save money, so I decided to save a couple hundred dollars by going with a 2500+ proc, which I could easily overclock to the range of AMD 3000+/P4b 3.06 gHz.

You got 2.63gHz out of a 2500+? That's some good luck man! What cooling did you use? You're a hell of an overclocker.

Oh yeah, hey EDEN!!!!!! I'll have pictures of myself, the new system, and of the two of us together making sweet siliconic love! Soon!

<b>nVidia cheated on me so I left her for ATi. ATi's hotter anyway...</b>

 

[scottchen]

LOL, well my 2500+ was a freak of nature, they were suppose to overclock to about 2.4 not 2.6 I was using Swiftech MCX462+ with 80mm Tornado on A7N8X

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[scottchen]

Yeah I've seen those marks a while ago, I'm just hoping that HyperThreading still holds on for a little while longer. I'm just waiting for them to come out with a good overclocking chip for the 64bit series, then I'm definently buying that since the diode surface is soooo large, cooling would be much easier.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[ufo_warviper]

Dissapointed with Barton, even when overclocked???

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

 

[scottchen]

All I'm saying is that a 70 dollars chip can't beat the 3.2C which cost about 5x as more.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[scottchen]

The 2500+ is a great chip, I mean at 2.4G it's at the performance of 3.0B so it's just that if you have extra money the Intel Hyperthreading series seems to overclock nicely, and of course kicks AMD off the table.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[scottchen]

The 2500+ is a great chip, I mean at 2.4G it's at the performance of 3.0B so it's just that if you have extra money the Intel Hyperthreading series seems to overclock nicely, and of course kicks Athlon off the table.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[Willamette_sucks]

OMG, I can't believe this. This is becoming an anti-AMD forum. Eden, you're flat out WRONG! Increasing the FSB (and memory speeds) on AMD systems increases performance emensely, or at least linearly. If you could get 800 (theoretical) fsb on a k7 platform it would own.

Oh, and 2.63ghz barton? Man you are an idiot, that would blow the 3.2c out of the water in UT2k3, and most other games. Just check out the barton 3200 benchmarks, I know that it loses, but its only at 2.2ghz. 2.63 (including the higher fsb) is WAY faster. I run my 2700 at 2.4, sometimes a bit higher when I benchmark, and in most games I compare my cpu to a 3.0C.

Eden, you keep talking about multimedia this multimedia that. Remember a couple days ago, someone posted a link to a video you could download off Microsofts site? It recommended (for the lower rez one) at least a 2.53ghz p4, OR an XP2200. I forget the recommendations for the higher res one, it was 3.0ghz P4, and I forget the recomended AMD equivalent, but it had approximately the same ratio as the recommendations for the lower res video.
What does that tell you about multimedia (video)?

And Eden, referring to an earlier post, I never dissed hyperthreading. I have even praised the idea. I do believe however, that its CURRENT implementation, is overrated at best. It just dosn't do much, most of the time. For a specific program to take advantage of it, it must be programmed to do so. Multitasking? Fine. I don't do alot of that.

"Mice eat cheese." - Modest Mouse

"Every Day is the Right Day." -Pink Floyd

 

[scottchen]

I know 2.63 for AMD is rated about 3600+, but I owned that and an Intel system, same graphics card, but CPU, mobo, and ram are different. With the Intel system I was using 2x256 PC3700 OCZ EL, and on my AMD system I was using HyperX ram that did 229FSB. I think the difference came from with Intel I used Dual channel ram, and the Intel was running at higher FSB. There was about 12 frames difference at 1000*700 without aa,af. 3.2 I used my 2.4C running at 267*12 which is about 3.2G, the difference is not that big however the 2.4C went way higher when I increased the Vcore.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by scottchen on 09/10/03 11:15 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[scottchen]

oh yeah Willamette I downclocked my 9800pro back to 450/365, I just ordered some of those TweakMonster ramsinks, not BGA ones normal ones. So did you get a new fan for you Volcano 10 on your card?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[Willamette_sucks]

Not yet

"Mice eat cheese." - Modest Mouse

"Every Day is the Right Day." -Pink Floyd

 

[speeduk]

Speaking of top systems. I will be selling my barton system ( 2500 @ 2.3ghz/ nforce 2 ultra mobo and 512mb 3200 memory) and purchasing a new A64 if it benches as good in the "real" reviews as has done in the ones i've seen so far.

My new 9700pro should arrive friday (does 380/355 on stock cooling and 430/390 zalman) and an overclocked 2ghz A64 to say 2.2 with some nice corsair memory should give my new card the power it needs I will be waiting till the price drops though, as £350 is a little steap. I just hope it lives up to expectations though, because if it doesn't, I think I may be tempted by a nice 2.4C intel chip and see what I get out of it...

But I think my current setup is good enough to see me through to next year. I got 17,550 3dmarks out of my current 9700pro @ only 355/339 so this new card should see me stay in the 18,000's or higher.
And a new bios update has finally fixed the probs I've been having, and given me an extra 100 3dmarks for free too! Now thats a bios update lol!!!

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6936722" target="_new"> My rig </A>
<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1150155" target="_new"> 3D-03 </A>
<font color=red> 120% overclocker </font color=red> (cheapskate)

 

[daddywags214]

Man, can you imagine an AthlonXP on an 800mHz bus? Damn, that would be WAY fast. I can't wait to get some benchmarks for this puppy, because it is one HELL of an upgrade for my current machine (not including my dad's, with the 2500+/9600 Pro - this one is all mine! The old one's specs are: AMD K6 500mHz, 192 PC100, Trident Blade 8mb). Hell, my current machine goes on delayed reaction when I try to run kazaa!!!!!!

<b>nVidia cheated on me so I left her for ATi. ATi's hotter anyway...</b>

 

[scottchen]

hey speed have you decided what cooling u going to use on that 9700pro? Because ZM80a-HP doesn't fit with ramsinks.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[eden]

"sigh", here we go again:

This is becoming an anti-AMD forum

Nobody is, you are creating this reality.

Increasing the FSB (and memory speeds) on AMD systems increases performance emensely

Oh um, really?
So, when we get from 266MT FSB to 400MT that gave us 20% like a P4 had from 533 to 800MT?What you said here is the biggest contradiction in history. Wanna prove me that please? The Athlons were never needing high FSBs. Contrary to what you are thinking, an 800MT FSB would NOT be NEEDED. Athlons are not bandwidth hungry for christ's sake. Gee Willy, sudden PMS outburst on me huh?
And yes, any memory over 400MT is USELESS for K7s. Where did you start pulling crap man?

Oh, and 2.63ghz barton? Man you are an idiot, that would blow the 3.2c out of the water in UT2k3, and most other games. Just check out the barton 3200 benchmarks, I know that it loses, but its only at 2.2ghz. 2.63 (including the higher fsb) is WAY faster. I run my 2700 at 2.4, sometimes a bit higher when I benchmark, and in most games I compare my cpu to a 3.0C.

Too much overclocking LOWERS performance. Do you not remember the watercooled 3400+ THG tried to simulate? Do you remember how bad its performance dropped sometimes? (Or was that not a simulated Tbred 3700+, hmm) OCing too much CAN reduce performance due to latency penalties. So his results are believable. Let AMD get a 2.6GHZ out and whip the 3.2GHZ.

Eden, you keep talking about multimedia this multimedia that.

Dude, I am MENTIONNING it, mentionning it to counter the annoying "64-bit this, 64-bit that" that Kinney uses. It's a reality btw. Ever seen what Lightwave can do on a P4? The per-clock performance is over 20% better on the P4 side. You think that warrants no little gloating of the Multimedia aspect? :tongue:

Remember a couple days ago, someone posted a link to a video you could download off Microsofts site? It recommended (for the lower rez one) at least a 2.53ghz p4, OR an XP2200. I forget the recommendations for the higher res one, it was 3.0ghz P4, and I forget the recomended AMD equivalent, but it had approximately the same ratio as the recommendations for the lower res video.

Ya, see, most game box makers recommend the weirdest things. When was the last time you checked out EB Games or some PC games shop? Look at the recommended specs. They are screwed up badly. I guarantee you this will disprove the rather weak point you tried to make with that video on MS' site example.

For a specific program to take advantage of it, it must be programmed to do so.

I read on Discreet's site their 3dS Max 6 is HT optimized. I don't recall version 5 being optimized for HT, I could be wrong, and anyone who finds relevant data from their site and can show me, I'd appreciate it.

Could've sworn months ago when we had a hot debate on AMD vs Intel you bashed HT. Then again you often like to have a rough attitude on hardware lol.

Still man, your post looked like a freakin' PMS rise, I merely mentioned that 400MT DDR is more than enough for AXPs which is a proven fact and you jumped on me. BTW I CAN prove you it's pointless if you want to.

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[coolsquirtle]

my system still PWNS all

except i dont have a video card...... so guess what i'll be using when my new P4 stuff come?

yup, Riva TNT2 M-64
I'm gonna kick all ur boogers with that card 😉

Proud Owner the Block Heater
120% nVidia Fanboy
PROUD OWNER OF THE GEFORCE FX 5900ULTRA <-- I wish this was me
I'd get a nVidia GeForce FX 5900Ultra... if THEY WOULD CHANGE THAT #()#@ HSF

 

[scottchen]

What system are you planning to get?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU