My potential build-Can I do better?-$3100 CAD

[varun12]

1 x *Please Add Impact Tower GTX 1060 Next Gen to Cart to See Exclusive Deals On Peripherals and MORE!*
1 x AMD RYZEN 7 1800X Processor 4.0/3.6GHZ 8 Core 16 Thread 95W TDP AM4 Retail Box *No HSF
Please note that this product is highly allocated. We will do our best to process and ship orders in a first in first out basis. Thank you.
1 x Please Use The Heatsink Included With My CPU - Not Included With Intel 6600K/6700K/5820K/5930K/5960X
1 x MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon ATX AM4 DDR4 CrossFire SLI USB3.1 Motherboard
1 x Corsair Vengeance Lpx 16GB 4X4GB DDR4-2666MHZ C16 XMP 2.0 1.2V Quad Channel Memory
1 x ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDDR5X Founders Edition VR Ready 5K HD Gaming HDMI DP Video Card
1 x NVIDIA Prepare for Battle - Choose for Honor or Ghost Recon Wildlands (PC Game) *NVIDIA Promo Only*
1 x Corsair Carbide Series 230T Window Orange Gaming Case ATX 3X5.25 4X3.5 Front USB3.0 Audio No PSU
1 x Corsair CX Series CX750M 750W ATX 12V 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply
1 x STARTECH 12 4PIN PWM FAN EXTENSION POWER Y CABLE
1 x Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64Bit English DVD OEM for NCIX PC
1 x Seagate Firecuda 1TB SSHD SATA 6GB/S 64MB Cache 3.5in Internal Solid State Hybrid Drive for NCIX PC
1 x Please Use The Onboard Network Ethernet Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x Please Use The Onboard Sound Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x Cooler Master R4-L2R-20 120MM Red LED Case Fan 2000RPM 69CFM 19DBA 3/4 Pin
1 x PC Assembly and Testing With 1 Year Limited NCIX System Warranty PRE-CONFIG WIN. OS If Purchased


There is additional 15% tax on top of 2700$ CDN in the total of build price- so basically $3100 CAD is my cost.

I have mSata 500GB Crucial Mx200 SSD at home- is it possible to add that here?
I will also eventually end up buying nVME SSD another $700-900 expense but later though.
I don't want the headache to install everything myself.
Would I be able to play 4k games smoothly and would this be "relatively" future proof?
Would this motherboard support eventual Intel processor ? or this is only for AMD since I'm getting Ryzen on it?


TIA

So total is $2754 - plus 15% taxes. Prices are in CAD-
I have mSata SSD 500GB at home- would I be able to put that one on here?
Also I know the SSD upgrade is another 700$ ]

 

[boosted1g]

Either your motherboard supports Intel processors or AMD processers, not both. Been that way for well over 20 years now.
Your board is AMD AM4 processors

Cant tell you if the build is best for you wihtout knowing usage.
For strictly gaming an i7 would be better then a 1700x.

What is your mSata drive you have at home?

 

[Barty1884]

So an 1800X, 16GB & A 1080TI is going to cost you ~$3k before SSDs .....ouch!

You're paying well over $500 markup for assembly IMHO


As a rough ideal, here's a comparable (and has more expensive memory, a quality PSU etc:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($619.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($122.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($140.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.78 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($947.52 @ shopRBC)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.99 @ PC Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($116.76 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2165.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-23 18:10 EDT-0400

While you don't want to put it together yourself, I'd definitely recommend either considering it, or finding a local builder to assemble it for you.

The 1800X is tough to justify. With an appropriuate cooler, either the 1700 or 1700X appear to be smarter purchases from a cost/performance standpoint.

As for your questions:
1. I don't believe there is mSATA on the board, only M.2 or SATA. You can add the SATA MX200
2. No, the board is an AM4 (AMD socket and will not support Intel chips).
3. 4K is tough to play 'smooth' just yet. A 1080TI is your best chance at it though, for a single-card setup at least
4. "Future proof" is impossible. The smartest option is to buy something 'fit for purpose' now, and save some budget for upgrades (while ensuring your motherboard etc can accommodate upgrades)

 

[JackNaylorPE]

1. Ryzom can't keep up w/ the Intel chips in gaming so don't see why you would pay that much more to "go there"

2. The rest appears a bit "mish mashed"

3. No the build is not "future proofed" ... even now that card won't do 60+ fps in all games of techpowerups test suite, you would need SLI for that.

4. Ryzen is dual not quad channel

5. Case fans will be very loud

6. Small case

There's no 1080 Ti worth getting as of yet that I would buy so just set aside say $975 CAN for that

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($459.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($223.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($144.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($134.98 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Tempered Glass (Gray) ATX Full Tower Case ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 1050W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($229.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1532.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-23 18:36 EDT-0400

That's $600 cheaper for something better in just about every way. If not overclocking, drop the PSU down to a 850 watter. You will need SLI to do 60+ fps at 4k but if you are willing to drop below 60 on some games, then a 600 watter will be just fine

Be careful on the MoBo selection... other vendors are now cheaping out and dropping to substandard audio solutions on stuff under $150 (US). I went w/ the Cabon as that is what you had selected fo Ryzen but you could save money by dropping to the MSI SLI Plus ... $179 CAD ... anything below that and you probably looking at substandard ALC 887 / 892 audio

Wise choice by the way on the FireCuda ... no real advantage having an SSD if all ya games are on slow HD. The SSHD will be 1.5 times faster in gaming than any HD.

 

[varun12]

So an 1800X, 16GB & A 1080TI is going to cost you ~$3k before SSDs .....ouch!

You're paying well over $500 markup for assembly IMHO


As a rough ideal, here's a comparable (and has more expensive memory, a quality PSU etc:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($619.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($122.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($140.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.78 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($947.52 @ shopRBC)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.99 @ PC Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($116.76 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2165.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-23 18:10 EDT-0400

While you don't want to put it together yourself, I'd definitely recommend either considering it, or finding a local builder to assemble it for you.

The 1800X is tough to justify. With an appropriuate cooler, either the 1700 or 1700X appear to be smarter purchases from a cost/performance standpoint.

As for your questions:
1. I don't believe there is mSATA on the board, only M.2 or SATA. You can add the SATA MX200
2. No, the board is an AM4 (AMD socket and will not support Intel chips).
3. 4K is tough to play 'smooth' just yet. A 1080TI is your best chance at it though, for a single-card setup at least
4. "Future proof" is impossible. The smartest option is to buy something 'fit for purpose' now, and save some budget for upgrades (while ensuring your motherboard etc can accommodate upgrades)

I have someone who can put it together for me for free- I was just being lazy because I thought it won't be that huge of a difference. That $500 I can spend on a SSD haha lol WOW thanks a lot bro.

When I said future proof I mean "relatively" -Also I'm using my 765m 2GB nVidia card on my Samsung 1080p monitor and games even like witcher 3 on high settings work at 15 fps -and there is no lag or stutter. Is there something I don't know about FPS ? only place it's gets little slow or laggy is when I enter rooms- it goes down to 11 fps and I start to see lips move later than Audio lol
I didn't even know I was getting such low fps until I ran fps test because fight scenes and all worked totally fine. I just assumed Geralt had good stamina when he took his time with women-didn't know it was slow FPS lol

1. Ryzom can't keep up w/ the Intel chips in gaming so don't see why you would pay that much more to "go there"

2. The rest appears a bit "mish mashed"

3. No the build is not "future proofed" ... even now that card won't do 60+ fps in all games of techpowerups test suite, you would need SLI for that.

4. Ryzen is dual not quad channel

5. Case fans will be very loud

6. Small case.

I have never done video editing thus far or any sort of content creation. I've on occasion done slight conversion of DVD from one format to another but even that hasn't been done in a long time.
Currently I'm using Alienware 4700mq i7 laptop , 16gb RAM , nVidia 765m 2gb, 1080p screen - 14 inches, 960gb SanDisk SSD (OS installed) and mSata Crucial MX200 500GB drive.

I wanted to build a laptop but they don't come in 15.6 inch size with 1080 graphics best I saw were in 17 inch form factor which gets too big.

 

[captaincharisma]

So an 1800X, 16GB & A 1080TI is going to cost you ~$3k before SSDs .....ouch!

You're paying well over $500 markup for assembly IMHO


As a rough ideal, here's a comparable (and has more expensive memory, a quality PSU etc:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor ($619.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($122.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($140.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.78 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($947.52 @ shopRBC)
Case: Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.99 @ PC Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.98 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($116.76 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2165.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-23 18:10 EDT-0400

While you don't want to put it together yourself, I'd definitely recommend either considering it, or finding a local builder to assemble it for you.

The 1800X is tough to justify. With an appropriuate cooler, either the 1700 or 1700X appear to be smarter purchases from a cost/performance standpoint.

As for your questions:
1. I don't believe there is mSATA on the board, only M.2 or SATA. You can add the SATA MX200
2. No, the board is an AM4 (AMD socket and will not support Intel chips).
3. 4K is tough to play 'smooth' just yet. A 1080TI is your best chance at it though, for a single-card setup at least
4. "Future proof" is impossible. The smartest option is to buy something 'fit for purpose' now, and save some budget for upgrades (while ensuring your motherboard etc can accommodate upgrades)

from the price of that ryzen CPU is it really worth it? heck, i just built a new rig with an I7 7700 non-K and i was able to get that CPU for $409.00 CDN.

 

[Barty1884]

from the price of that ryzen CPU is it really worth it? heck, i just built a new rig with an I7 7700 non-K and i was able to get that CPU for $409.00 CDN.

No, not even remotely close to worth it. I was just attempting to figure out the markup being charged for assembly, and it's huge.

For 4K gaming, I'd look to something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($459.50 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.85 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($175.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($140.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Intel 600p Series 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($138.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.78 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card ($947.52 @ shopRBC)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($116.76 @ Vuugo)
Total: $2311.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-23 18:43 EDT-0400

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I have never done video editing thus far or any sort of content creation. I've on occasion done slight conversion of DVD from one format to another but even that hasn't been done in a long time.
Currently I'm using Alienware 4700mq i7 laptop , 16gb RAM , nVidia 765m 2gb, 1080p screen - 14 inches, 960gb SanDisk SSD (OS installed) and mSata Crucial MX200 500GB drive.

I wanted to build a laptop but they don't come in 15.6 inch size with 1080 graphics best I saw were in 17 inch form factor which gets too big.

I added a build to my last message which would be better and faster in almost every way....

1080p Lappies are readily available ... I'd note that just about every brand you know (except MSI) doesn't actually make a laptop. Alienware laptops were made by Clevo up until Dell purchased them ... if you want a lappie, have Clevo build it for you to your specs. You can get 4k at 15 lappie if ya want

https://lpc-digital.com/product/sager-np9152-clevo-p750dm2/

15.6" 4K QFHD (3840 x 2160) Matte with G-SYNC Technology
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700K (8M Cache, up to 4.50 GHz)
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 NVIDIA PASCAL™
Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled, (without Recovery Media)
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) (2 x 8GB)
No OS - Drivers & Utility Software Only
No M.2 SSD Drive
No Primary Hard Drive/SSD
Intel® Dual Band Ultra -AC 8265 M.2 AC + Bluetooth 4.2 Combo
Lifetime Limited Labor and 1 Year Premium Parts Warranty
UPS Standard Ground to Canada (select the Canada warranty above)

Cash price = Price: $2,238.00 (I pay by check)

You'll have to ask about getting no storage at all, I don't know if what you have would fit.

Call Larry 877-208-9544 9:00am-5:00pm Mon-Sat PST

Can also look here:

http://www.reflexnotebook.ca/

 

[aquielisunari]

Also I know the SSD upgrade is another 700$

Can you please clarify that? SSD=$700 or more? That's offensive, insulting, cruel, simply stupid.

Which retailer are you dealing with?

Scratch that please. Stop whatever you are doing with that retailer and do some research on the parts involved. Go to online or other retailers and look at what they cost. Then compare their sum total to another retailer's total and see how much they are overcharging.

 

[varun12]

I have never done video editing thus far or any sort of content creation. I've on occasion done slight conversion of DVD from one format to another but even that hasn't been done in a long time.
Currently I'm using Alienware 4700mq i7 laptop , 16gb RAM , nVidia 765m 2gb, 1080p screen - 14 inches, 960gb SanDisk SSD (OS installed) and mSata Crucial MX200 500GB drive.

I wanted to build a laptop but they don't come in 15.6 inch size with 1080 graphics best I saw were in 17 inch form factor which gets too big.

I added a build to my last message which would be better and faster in almost every way....

1080p Lappies are readily available ... I'd note that just about every brand you know (except MSI) doesn't actually make a laptop. Alienware laptops were made by Clevo up until Dell purchased them ... if you want a lappie, have Clevo build it for you to your specs. You can get 4k at 15 lappie if ya want

https://lpc-digital.com/product/sager-np9152-clevo-p750dm2/

15.6" 4K QFHD (3840 x 2160) Matte with G-SYNC Technology
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700K (8M Cache, up to 4.50 GHz)
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 NVIDIA PASCAL™
Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled, (without Recovery Media)
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) (2 x 8GB)
No OS - Drivers & Utility Software Only
No M.2 SSD Drive
No Primary Hard Drive/SSD
Intel® Dual Band Ultra -AC 8265 M.2 AC + Bluetooth 4.2 Combo
Lifetime Limited Labor and 1 Year Premium Parts Warranty
UPS Standard Ground to Canada (select the Canada warranty above)

Cash price = Price: $2,238.00 (I pay by check)

You'll have to ask about getting no storage at all, I don't know if what you have would fit.

Call Larry 877-208-9544 9:00am-5:00pm Mon-Sat PST

Can also look here:

http://www.reflexnotebook.ca/

Is that prices in Canadian dollars ? and you see it's 1070 nVidia not 1080- you were saying 1080 won't play 4k how would this even handle throwing output via hdmi.

Also another reason I dropped laptop idea was because- I thought at least Desktop I can upgrade next year with possibly a new GPU if needs to be but laptop I won't be able to and -I will keep using my Alienware for travel.

Even now- with i7 4700mq - lol -if I could I'd replace GPU and that's it. I need a new monitor as well so I thought I'd get 4k that's how it all started (new pc and all and Oh the FPS test that I did)

Also I know the SSD upgrade is another 700$

Can you please clarify that? SSD=$700 or more? That's offensive, insulting, cruel, simply stupid.

Which retailer are you dealing with?

Scratch that please. Stop whatever you are doing with that retailer and do some research on the parts involved. Go to online or other retailers and look at what they cost. Then compare their sum total to another retailer's total and see how much they are overcharging.

lol bro - this one Intel 750 Series HHHL (CEM2.0) 1.2TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEDMW012T4R5

it's 1k CDN- I thought I'd get this one.

 

[varun12]

None of you recommended waiting for Vega or is it Wega by AMD -did I miss something

Also- are 1080 SLI better than 1080 Titan ?
I still don't understand the concept of high FPS when even at 15 fps Geralt can kill without any stutter. What am I missing?

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Is that prices in Canadian dollars ?

It would rely help if you looked at the link ... most of ya questions would have been answered. But the FAQ will explain all, the candian stuff

and you see it's 1070 nVidia not 1080- you were saying 1080 won't play 4k how would this even handle throwing output via hdmi.

- Nothing does 4k ... I don't think you will see a 1080 on a tiny 15" screen (personally I think its silly). Kinda like putting a $3,000 set of tires and wheels on a $1200 car. You can get a 17" with twin 1080s if ya like ... no problem at 4k.
-There is no cable on a lappie... it's a 15" 4k screen

Also another reason I dropped laptop idea was because- I thought at least Desktop I can upgrade next year with possibly a new GPU if needs to be but laptop I won't be able to and -I will keep using my Alienware for travel.

I wanted to build a laptop but they don't come in 15.6 inch size with 1080 graphics best I saw were in 17 inch form factor which gets too big.

The 2nd quote was from your previous post which stated that the only reason was you couldn't get the desired resolution... 3k and 4k options are available with 1 or 2 1080s ... but again, I don't think there's a market for the bigger resolutions w/o a bigger screen.... its spending money for a more expensive panel where the human eye can not discern any difference.

Even now with i7 4700mq - lol -if I could I'd replace GPU and that's it. I need a new monitor as well so I thought I'd get 4k that's how it all started (new pc and all and Oh the FPS test that I did)

You can replace GPUs .... on Clevo laptops tho options are limited. Again, look at the site and where multiple options exist, you can upgrade from 1 to the other.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

None of you recommended waiting for Vega or is it Wega by AMD -did I miss something

Also- are 1080 SLI better than 1080 Titan ?
I still don't understand the concept of high FPS when even at 15 fps Geralt can kill without any stutter. What am I missing?

There's a reason they make 165 Hhz monitors... 60 fps is considered the base for gaming enthusiasts and G-Sync only works > 30 (Freesync > 40) ... ULMB needs > 60... in 25 years of participating inand managing on line tech forums, that's the 1st post I ever read that said 15 fps is just fine.

......15 fps ... geez that brings to mind ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1N6wX_lG3w

The 1080 Ti is faster than the Titan ... twin 1080s are much faster than the Titan

As is twin 1070s

 

[aquielisunari]

I have never done video editing thus far or any sort of content creation. I've on occasion done slight conversion of DVD from one format to another but even that hasn't been done in a long time.
Currently I'm using Alienware 4700mq i7 laptop , 16gb RAM , nVidia 765m 2gb, 1080p screen - 14 inches, 960gb SanDisk SSD (OS installed) and mSata Crucial MX200 500GB drive.

I wanted to build a laptop but they don't come in 15.6 inch size with 1080 graphics best I saw were in 17 inch form factor which gets too big.

I added a build to my last message which would be better and faster in almost every way....

1080p Lappies are readily available ... I'd note that just about every brand you know (except MSI) doesn't actually make a laptop. Alienware laptops were made by Clevo up until Dell purchased them ... if you want a lappie, have Clevo build it for you to your specs. You can get 4k at 15 lappie if ya want

https://lpc-digital.com/product/sager-np9152-clevo-p750dm2/

15.6" 4K QFHD (3840 x 2160) Matte with G-SYNC Technology
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700K (8M Cache, up to 4.50 GHz)
NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 NVIDIA PASCAL™
Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled, (without Recovery Media)
16GB Dual Channel DDR4 2400MHz (PC4 19200) (2 x 8GB)
No OS - Drivers & Utility Software Only
No M.2 SSD Drive
No Primary Hard Drive/SSD
Intel® Dual Band Ultra -AC 8265 M.2 AC + Bluetooth 4.2 Combo
Lifetime Limited Labor and 1 Year Premium Parts Warranty
UPS Standard Ground to Canada (select the Canada warranty above)

Cash price = Price: $2,238.00 (I pay by check)

You'll have to ask about getting no storage at all, I don't know if what you have would fit.

Call Larry 877-208-9544 9:00am-5:00pm Mon-Sat PST

Can also look here:

http://www.reflexnotebook.ca/

Is that prices in Canadian dollars ? and you see it's 1070 nVidia not 1080- you were saying 1080 won't play 4k how would this even handle throwing output via hdmi.

Also another reason I dropped laptop idea was because- I thought at least Desktop I can upgrade next year with possibly a new GPU if needs to be but laptop I won't be able to and -I will keep using my Alienware for travel.

Even now- with i7 4700mq - lol -if I could I'd replace GPU and that's it. I need a new monitor as well so I thought I'd get 4k that's how it all started (new pc and all and Oh the FPS test that I did)

Also I know the SSD upgrade is another 700$

Can you please clarify that? SSD=$700 or more? That's offensive, insulting, cruel, simply stupid.

Which retailer are you dealing with?

Scratch that please. Stop whatever you are doing with that retailer and do some research on the parts involved. Go to online or other retailers and look at what they cost. Then compare their sum total to another retailer's total and see how much they are overcharging.

lol bro - this one Intel 750 Series HHHL (CEM2.0) 1.2TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEDMW012T4R5

it's 1k CDN- I thought I'd get this one.

Wow. Understood.

 

[varun12]

Is that prices in Canadian dollars ?

It would rely help if you looked at the link ... most of ya questions would have been answered. But the FAQ will explain all, the candian stuff

and you see it's 1070 nVidia not 1080- you were saying 1080 won't play 4k how would this even handle throwing output via hdmi.

- Nothing does 4k ... I don't think you will see a 1080 on a tiny 15" screen (personally I think its silly). Kinda like putting a $3,000 set of tires and wheels on a $1200 car. You can get a 17" with twin 1080s if ya like ... no problem at 4k.
-There is no cable on a lappie... it's a 15" 4k screen

Also another reason I dropped laptop idea was because- I thought at least Desktop I can upgrade next year with possibly a new GPU if needs to be but laptop I won't be able to and -I will keep using my Alienware for travel.

I wanted to build a laptop but they don't come in 15.6 inch size with 1080 graphics best I saw were in 17 inch form factor which gets too big.

The 2nd quote was from your previous post which stated that the only reason was you couldn't get the desired resolution... 3k and 4k options are available with 1 or 2 1080s ... but again, I don't think there's a market for the bigger resolutions w/o a bigger screen.... its spending money for a more expensive panel where the human eye can not discern any difference.

Even now with i7 4700mq - lol -if I could I'd replace GPU and that's it. I need a new monitor as well so I thought I'd get 4k that's how it all started (new pc and all and Oh the FPS test that I did)

You can replace GPUs .... on Clevo laptops tho options are limited. Again, look at the site and where multiple options exist, you can upgrade from 1 to the other.

lol there was no CAD flag that's why I wanted to ask to confirm and my price ended up being more than yours.
Ok let me explain better.

My first preference was -a 15.6 inch laptop which would allow me to play 4k games and comes 1080 nVidia. So I can output that on big screen at home and be all set yet -the size is portable enough for me to travel with. (As I currently do with my Alienware-it's left plugged in with screen off and I use my 24 inch Samsung 1080p monitor) ---> this is where I thought a laptop would be better because it'll serve dual purpose.

I saw those Sager and MSI and huge laptops with dual 1080s lol. No way I can travel with them. That's where the need for laptop comes but then someone suggested that just build a Desktop and use Alienware for travel and all. Keep it without instead of selling it. Hence, the thread

I hope I cleared everything as to how I arrived at the decision of building a desktop. The reason why I want 4k gaming is because that's the next thing now and I usually buy the latest so I can live with it for 2-3 years. My Alienware is 4 years old lol. Never let me down. Plus all these youtube videos for higher frames battle made me think I need best GPU (like I said I didn't even know frames mattered or what not as mine worked fine or I thought it did)

 

[varun12]

None of you recommended waiting for Vega or is it Wega by AMD -did I miss something

Also- are 1080 SLI better than 1080 Titan ?
I still don't understand the concept of high FPS when even at 15 fps Geralt can kill without any stutter. What am I missing?

There's a reason they make 165 Hhz monitors... 60 fps is considered the base for gaming enthusiasts and G-Sync only works > 30 (Freesync > 40) ... ULMB needs > 60... in 25 years of participating inand managing on line tech forums, that's the 1st post I ever read that said 15 fps is just fine.

......15 fps ... geez that brings to mind ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1N6wX_lG3w

The 1080 Ti is faster than the Titan ... twin 1080s are much faster than the Titan

As is twin 1070s

lol I don't know how but I can post a video. On the corner of the screen number 15 flashes and Geralt is running and slashing people absolutely fine without stutter or lag. I assume that's what FPS has to do with ? in rooms it get laggy as the audio goes out of sync. Wine and blood expansion pack also puts an extra bit of load lol.

I understand it's low compared to what I am seeing these days but my laptop was bought in May 2014 lol hence the reason why I want something that would play games on 4k fine since that's the "new" thing now.

 

[varun12]

Here I built my own. Tell me what did I do wrong if anything.

I added dual 1080 and dual 2tb HDD hybrid to run in Raid 0 (for storage since it's faster and I'll get 2 TB for cheaper than a SSD, right?) and I already have 960gb SadDisk SSD for (OS)

I even got a Monitor- it's a like a dream come true. Unless all is wrong? Missing thermal compound though - I have the CPU cooler they have on sale -brand new- at home. I ordered it but never got a chance to use it so that's why it's not on the list.

I don't need a fancy case and I assume it comes with required fans. I don't think I need liquid cooling to run at 5 ghz right? So do I even need 1000 Watt ?
I am also assuming- the motherboard already has all the wifi and proper audio and I don't need extra fancy stuff.

Component Selection Price
CPU

Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
$459.50 Buy
Motherboard

MSI Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
$223.50 Buy
Memory

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
$149.98 Buy
Storage

Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive
$119.99 Buy

Seagate 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive
$119.99 Buy
Video Card

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card (2-Way SLI)
$619.99 Buy

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card (2-Way SLI)
$619.99 Buy
Case

Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case
$105.03 Buy
Power Supply

EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
$199.99 Buy
Monitor

AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor
$399.99 Buy
Total: $3017.95

 

[Barty1884]

Do you really need 4TB storage ? (No big deal if you do, just asking). The SSHD's are pretty pointless if your Os is going to be on your SSD.

Are you sure those are Canadian prices? Seem really low to me.....

The motherboard has 'proper' audio, but no wifi if that matters to you.

 

[varun12]

Do you really need 4TB storage ? (No big deal if you do, just asking). The SSHD's are pretty pointless if your Os is going to be on your SSD.

Are you sure those are Canadian prices? Seem really low to me.....

The motherboard has 'proper' audio, but no wifi if that matters to you.

It won't be 4 TB though it'll be 2 tb since it'll be in RAID config.
Yes Canadian prices. Pc part picker from Canada.

Xidax similar was very high. I thought these companies didn't that huge of marks up but dang

 

[captaincharisma]

Do you really need 4TB storage ? (No big deal if you do, just asking). The SSHD's are pretty pointless if your Os is going to be on your SSD.

Are you sure those are Canadian prices? Seem really low to me.....

The motherboard has 'proper' audio, but no wifi if that matters to you.

It won't be 4 TB though it'll be 2 tb since it'll be in RAID config.
Yes Canadian prices. Pc part picker from Canada.

Xidax similar was very high. I thought these companies didn't that huge of marks up but dang

i found the canadian pcpartpicker useless for pricing because they never calculate the shipping costs in the pricing and when you go to the websites to do up an order the shipping costs are insane

 

[Barty1884]

True, but you mentioned speed gains, not redundancy..... and the speed gains are going to be irrelevant/unnoticable when paired with an SSD for your OS.

The PSU you included is total overkill. SLI 1080's and a 7700K is a 550W max draw before overclocking.
A SuperNOVA B2 750W would be more than sufficient, and is $85 CAD:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JYyFf7/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

If you wanted fully modular, the G3 750W is $120
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dMM323/evga-supernova-g3-750w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0750

Both would be more appropriate for the build, and save you some money.

I'm not sure where you're seeing the 1080's for $620 though....

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($459.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI Z270 SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($175.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: GeIL EVO X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($113.00 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($690.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($690.98 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ NCIX)
Monitor: AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($399.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $2885.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-24 13:05 EDT-0400

That saves you ~$120 from your build, and would show not performance difference....
And if you can pick up the FTW 1080s for $620 a piece, that's another $140 savings.

You probably need an OS too though, which was missing from your build.