My system says that I have 2 cores and 4 Logical Processors. Does it mean my CPU is a quad core or dual core?

[capsto]

Will dual cores effect gaming at all if I do I it. I would be using the GTX 750 ti.

 

[ThatVietGuy]

Still a dual core. The 4 logical processors is thanks to hyperthreading.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1850932/difference-physical-core-logical-core.html

 

[AUnlikelyPotatoe]

It probably doesn't matter with a 750ti. It probably means you have a dual core processor with 2 extra threads (two virtual cores plus the 2 actual cores)

 

[capsto]

It probably doesn't matter with a 750ti. It probably means you have a dual core processor with 2 extra threads (two virtual cores plus the 2 actual cores)

Will it still run games smoothly like BF4 , Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3-4, etc..?

My CPU is the AMD A10 7800 (3.5-3.9Ghz)

 

[AUnlikelyPotatoe]

Yes, most games are Gpu intensive, seems well balanced, but you will probably want to go with a different socket if you want to upgrade much more, the fm2 socket doesn't have much upgrade ability

 

[capsto]

Yes, most games are Gpu intensive, seems well balanced, but you will probably want to go with a different socket if you want to upgrade much more, the fm2 socket doesn't have much upgrade ability

I will eventually get a quad core cpu with decent upgrades. What CPU would you recommend?

 

[AUnlikelyPotatoe]

Prob a i5 6700(k if you will overclock), I can't be 100% sure since amd's zen cpu lineup sometime this year. I'm not really partial to Intel or amd, but for now, Intel has a lot better upgrade path

 

[photonboy]

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/a10-7800-cpu-review/2/

Hey,
That is a quad-core CPU. It's actually an APU (CPU + GPU) but the CPU has four cores. To avoid some confusion some just call these cores "threads" since they are arguably not full cores.

Technically it has two "modules" with two cores in each one. It's not a true quad-core like Intel's because the AMD design shares some resources (which can bottleneck it and cause poor performance).

So it's a quad-core/thread, but dual-module. Similar to an FX-4300 for the CPU portion.

(Intel hyperthreading on the other had uses the EXACT same physical cores but has registers set up to send in the data whilst the thread would normally sit idle waiting for new data from the system memory. So the AMD design is mostly four full cores, but the Intel is really just two cores with some efficient data management to prevent those cores sitting unused.)

Other:

1. You can add a much, much better graphics card (then not use the GPU in that APU).

2. I'm guessing that APU is overclockable. I'd do so with the new graphics card (to make the CPU portion faster).

3. GTX750Ti?
It's low/mid gaming depending on who you ask but it's fine for most games especially if you carefully tweak the settings.

4. AMD Polaris 11:
AMD's got a new part coming this summer. We can only guess right now but it may be around $150USD and 2X the perf of a GTX750Ti (almost GTX770?) but I'm really guessing. It should have 4GB of GDDR5 memory.

5. Discrete GPU:
http://techreport.com/review/26845/amd-a10-7800-processor-reviewed/4

I just wanted to point out that they ran a test at 1280x720 to separate out how well the CPU's are bottlenecking. Okay, I get it but they should have run ALSO at 1920x1080 because the difference in FPS is lessened as the resolution increases.

So the game shows over 50% improvement (same GPU) with the i5-4590. It probably would have been closer to 20% difference at a 1080p. It will also vary depending on how CPU bottlenecked a game tends to be.

Starcraft 2 - very prone to CPU bottleneck during battles

Tomb Raider - not very demanding on the CPU

Here's what TR looks like for CPU-> http://www.techspot.com/review/1128-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-benchmarks/page5.html

You'd be at the BOTTOM with the same GPU, but still getting about 65FPS average which is nice.

6. ZEON CPU?
First off, you'd need a new motherboard. It would really boil down to whether AMD can make a CPU cheap enough to justify the cost. You have to add in the motherboard as well.

I don't tend to recommend a motherboard until it's been out at least two months (feedback, BIOS updates).

I think AMD might make a really cost effective 8C/16T Zen, 14nm CPU. It may not make much difference for gaming (vs a 4C/4T CPU) but then maybe DX12 will end up utilizing all those cores in some scenarios (AI, physics?). Who knows. There's also video editing etc.

Intel makes 4-core CPU's now where HALF the die is for the iGPU. Like the i5-6600K. Well that means AMD could make an 8-core CPU with no iGPU on the same die size or close.

But Intel charges a LOT of money for an 8C/16T CPU so there's some interesting potential there for AMD...

 

[photonboy]

SORRY it got so long..

 

[capsto]

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/a10-7800-cpu-review/2/

Hey,
That is a quad-core CPU. It's actually an APU (CPU + GPU) but the CPU has four cores. To avoid some confusion some just call these cores "threads" since they are arguably not full cores.

Technically it has two "modules" with two cores in each one. It's not a true quad-core like Intel's because the AMD design shares some resources (which can bottleneck it and cause poor performance).

So it's a quad-core/thread, but dual-module. Similar to an FX-4300 for the CPU portion.

(Intel hyperthreading on the other had uses the EXACT same physical cores but has registers set up to send in the data whilst the thread would normally sit idle waiting for new data from the system memory. So the AMD design is mostly four full cores, but the Intel is really just two cores with some efficient data management to prevent those cores sitting unused.)

Other:

1. You can add a much, much better graphics card (then not use the GPU in that APU).

2. I'm guessing that APU is overclockable. I'd do so with the new graphics card (to make the CPU portion faster).

3. GTX750Ti?
It's low/mid gaming depending on who you ask but it's fine for most games especially if you carefully tweak the settings.

4. AMD Polaris 11:
AMD's got a new part coming this summer. We can only guess right now but it may be around $150USD and 2X the perf of a GTX750Ti (almost GTX770?) but I'm really guessing. It should have 4GB of GDDR5 memory.

5. Discrete GPU:
http://techreport.com/review/26845/amd-a10-7800-processor-reviewed/4

I just wanted to point out that they ran a test at 1280x720 to separate out how well the CPU's are bottlenecking. Okay, I get it but they should have run ALSO at 1920x1080 because the difference in FPS is lessened as the resolution increases.

So the game shows over 50% improvement (same GPU) with the i5-4590. It probably would have been closer to 20% difference at a 1080p. It will also vary depending on how CPU bottlenecked a game tends to be.

Starcraft 2 - very prone to CPU bottleneck during battles

Tomb Raider - not very demanding on the CPU

Here's what TR looks like for CPU-> http://www.techspot.com/review/1128-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-benchmarks/page5.html

You'd be at the BOTTOM with the same GPU, but still getting about 65FPS average which is nice.

6. ZEON CPU?
First off, you'd need a new motherboard. It would really boil down to whether AMD can make a CPU cheap enough to justify the cost. You have to add in the motherboard as well.

I don't tend to recommend a motherboard until it's been out at least two months (feedback, BIOS updates).

I think AMD might make a really cost effective 8C/16T Zen, 14nm CPU. It may not make much difference for gaming (vs a 4C/4T CPU) but then maybe DX12 will end up utilizing all those cores in some scenarios (AI, physics?). Who knows. There's also video editing etc.

Intel makes 4-core CPU's now where HALF the die is for the iGPU. Like the i5-6600K. Well that means AMD could make an 8-core CPU with no iGPU on the same die size or close.

But Intel charges a LOT of money for an 8C/16T CPU so there's some interesting potential there for AMD...

OMG wow! Thank you so very muchhh !