[SOLVED] NAS Backup for PC

[adlkhkmlln]

Hi! I'm need a NAS (approx 4TB) that is connected to the internet and that can create backups through some explorer folder in my PC when I'm in another city.
It should be able to automatically relaunch in the event of power outage. That models are good for that?
Thank you.

 

[kanewolf]

Hi! I'm need a NAS (approx 4TB) that is connected to the internet and that can create backups through some explorer folder in my PC when I'm in another city.
It should be able to automatically relaunch in the event of power outage. That models are good for that?
Thank you.

Remote backup will depend on the UPLOAD speed wherever you are. That could be pretty limiting.
Do you already run a VPN server on your router at home? To do what you want, you probably want a VPN to your home.

 

[adlkhkmlln]

Remote backup will depend on the UPLOAD speed wherever you are. That could be pretty limiting.
Do you already run a VPN server on your router at home? To do what you want, you probably want a VPN to your home.

I think it able without VPN, because I plan to work from another place with stable internet connection.

 

[kanewolf]

I think it able without VPN, because I plan to work from another place with stable internet connection.

The VPN is to allow you direct access to your home network. There are two kinds of VPN. One where your home connects to a remote server and one where you as a remote user connects to your home. I am talking about the second kind.
You connect to your router (or alternatively your NAS) and create a private network. That allows secure access to your NAS.

 

[USAFRet]

And you have to be very very careful about this 'access from outside'.
Every device that is connected to 'the internet' gets many many access attempts. Every day.
Currently, your router and its firewall throws these away. As it should.

If you open a hole for YOU to access from outside, maybe someone else can as well.

When I allowed my Qnap NAS to be accessible from outside, it got many many access attempts from all over the world. China, Russia, Ohio, Portugal, etc, etc.
They weren't targeting ME, just another random IP address.
The Qnap disallowed those, due to the settings I gave it. But it is easy to get it 'not quite right', and someone would have full access, to do whatever they wanted.

 

[adlkhkmlln]

The VPN is to allow you direct access to your home network. There are two kinds of VPN. One where your home connects to a remote server and one where you as a remote user connects to your home. I am talking about the second kind.
You connect to your router (or alternatively your NAS) and create a private network. That allows secure access to your NAS.

USAFRet,

okay got it, after buying a NAS I should create VPN connection for it, right?
What models good for that?

 

[USAFRet]

USAFRet,

okay got it, after buying a NAS I should create VPN connection for it, right?
What models good for that?

The model of NAS has nothing to do with what VPN software you use.

VPN allows you, from somewhere outside you house LAN, to be seen as being ON the house LAN.
The NAS box doesn't know the difference.

 

[adlkhkmlln]

The model of NAS has nothing to do with what VPN software you use.

VPN allows you, from somewhere outside you house LAN, to be seen as being ON the house LAN.
The NAS box doesn't know the difference.

Hmm, is it possible to use some other secure connection? (not all homes at airbnb has an internet with allowed VPN)

 

[kanewolf]

USAFRet,

okay got it, after buying a NAS I should create VPN connection for it, right?
What models good for that?

Any of the commercial NAS units support becoming a VPN endpoint. I would recommend you get a unit with an Intel CPU. VPN communication is CPU intensive. Also get a NAS that can have expanded RAM. A Synology DS220+ or 720+ would be a starting point. Remember that most prices you see for the NAS do not include disks. These units are sold bare, to add disks of your choice.

Hmm, is it possible to use some other secure connection? (not all homes at airbnb has an internet with allowed VPN)

I would not recommend another option. If that is unacceptable, then I would look for a cloud based subscription option.

 

[punkncat]

As a side note, Dropbox is offering a backup solution and is available from anywhere.


I have been considering and trying to find a decent LAN only type NAS. It seems that almost everything on the market now is "semi" local and "semi" cloud based. Synology actually catches a lot of grief in their review comments for it.
In my case my ISP tells you flat out that they access and analyze any device connected to and/or moving across "their" network devices. Basically, if you move one picture folder across their modem/router to another you just gave it to them as well. Privacy doesn't exist any more....however the above reference to security is important.

 

[kanewolf]

As a side note, Dropbox is offering a backup solution and is available from anywhere.


I have been considering and trying to find a decent LAN only type NAS. It seems that almost everything on the market now is "semi" local and "semi" cloud based. Synology actually catches a lot of grief in their review comments for it.
In my case my ISP tells you flat out that they access and analyze any device connected to and/or moving across "their" network devices. Basically, if you move one picture folder across their modem/router to another you just gave it to them as well. Privacy doesn't exist any more....however the above reference to security is important.

Cloud services on a Synology NAS can be enabled or disabled. If you don't like the cloud aspects, don't enable them. Use the NAS as strictly local storage with host software initiating backups.
As for ISP snooping, that is what encryption is for. An HTTPs connection (without a man-in-the-middle) is opaque to your ISP. Same with a VPN. All traffic in the VPN is encrypted. No ISP snooping. They can see there is traffic, they have no insight into it.

 

[adlkhkmlln]

As a side note, Dropbox is offering a backup solution and is available from anywhere.
I have been considering and trying to find a decent LAN only type NAS. It seems that almost everything on the market now is "semi" local and "semi" cloud based. Synology actually catches a lot of grief in their review comments for it.
In my case my ISP tells you flat out that they access and analyze any device connected to and/or moving across "their" network devices. Basically, if you move one picture folder across their modem/router to another you just gave it to them as well. Privacy doesn't exist any more....however the above reference to security is important.

Cloud services on a Synology NAS can be enabled or disabled. If you don't like the cloud aspects, don't enable them. Use the NAS as strictly local storage with host software initiating backups.
As for ISP snooping, that is what encryption is for. An HTTPs connection (without a man-in-the-middle) is opaque to your ISP. Same with a VPN. All traffic in the VPN is encrypted. No ISP snooping. They can see there is traffic, they have no insight into it.

Anyway, I'm going to use it for work files that don't need privacy, actually.
WD My Cloud Home, for example or Synology DiskStation DS220+ - is it usable for my tasks? Will the Windows Explorer folder linked to this NAS work on my computer from another city? Sorry for stupid questions, I'm didn't good in the networks

 

[kanewolf]

Anyway, I'm going to use it for work files that don't need privacy, actually.
WD My Cloud Home, for example or Synology DiskStation DS220+ - is it usable for my tasks? Will the Windows Explorer folder linked to this NAS work on my computer from another city? Sorry for stupid questions, I'm didn't good in the networks

Not without a VPN. A remote computer can't access a network folder without the VPN.

 

[punkncat]

Cloud services on a Synology NAS can be enabled or disabled. If you don't like the cloud aspects, don't enable them. Use the NAS as strictly local storage with host software initiating backups.
As for ISP snooping, that is what encryption is for. An HTTPs connection (without a man-in-the-middle) is opaque to your ISP. Same with a VPN. All traffic in the VPN is encrypted. No ISP snooping. They can see there is traffic, they have no insight into it.

I was not aware of that with the Synology, no one seems to mention that aspect and I don't own one yet.

 

[kanewolf]

I was not aware of that with the Synology, no one seems to mention that aspect and I don't own one yet.

I have two. If you have a specific review or something you are referring to, I can look. But in general, all the pre-installed applications can be disabled.

 

[USAFRet]

I was not aware of that with the Synology, no one seems to mention that aspect and I don't own one yet.

Its the same with my Qnap.

It has multiple "cloud" type things. It can even talk natively to another QNAP, through its own tunnel.
For me, simply "not enabled". Local access only.