News Nearly all Nintendo 64 games can now be recompiled into native PC ports to add proper ray tracing, ultrawide, high FPS, and more

[Admin]

N64 Recompiled by Mr. Wiseguy allows for the easy creation of native N64 ports and insertion of RT through Dario's RT64 renderer.

Nearly all Nintendo 64 games can now be recompiled into native PC ports to add proper ray tracing, ultrawide, high FPS, and more : Read more

 

[ezst036]

I support this.

Just to stick it to Nintendo. Right in their eyeball.

 

[LabRat 891]

NGL, 2160p 120+hz Ray Traced GoldenEye sounds interesting.

...and yes. Nintendo will hate this. Which, means I love it.

[Nintendo is rapidly making itself the new Object of Ire in the gaming world.
Move over EA, Nintendo is here to take your Throne of Shame.]

 

[Giroro]

So this method of emulation seems to do upfront what I assumed every other emulator was already doing in real time.
Maybe that's because I exclusively code in Assembly and C?

So now I'm just scratching my head wondering what the other emulators are actually doing, and why.
I was also confused when I found out people spending 2 years to manually decompile an N64 game. It's just find and replace to decompile machine code into Assembly. You could write a script to do that in half a day... So what are these people actually doing?

 

[TheyCallMeContra]

So this method of emulation seems to do upfront what I assumed every other emulator was already doing in real time.
Maybe that's because I exclusively code in Assembly and C?

So now I'm just scratching my head wondering what the other emulators are actually doing, and why.
I was also confused when I found out people spending 2 years to manually decompile an N64 game. It's just find and replace to decompile machine code into Assembly. You could write a script to do that in half a day... So what are these people actually doing?

Emulators have to emulate the hardware before the software even becomes a considering factor. Emulators haven't been out here recompiling game code in real time, no.

 

[SirStephenH]

Nintendo lawsuit in 3, 2, 1... 😞

 

[KitsuneKas]

Emulators have to emulate the hardware before the software even becomes a considering factor. Emulators haven't been out here recompiling game code in real time, no.

Actually JIT recompiling is exactly what a lot of emulators do, because it's much, much faster than hardware emulation.

The difference between what this project is doing and what emulators do is that all the recompiling is done up front before runtime so there's no overhead when running, meaning the hardware demands are significantly lower.

 

[nimbulan]

So this method of emulation seems to do upfront what I assumed every other emulator was already doing in real time.
Maybe that's because I exclusively code in Assembly and C?

So now I'm just scratching my head wondering what the other emulators are actually doing, and why.
I was also confused when I found out people spending 2 years to manually decompile an N64 game. It's just find and replace to decompile machine code into Assembly. You could write a script to do that in half a day... So what are these people actually doing?

The whole point of decompiling is to be able to port the game over to different hardware/software. In order to do that, they need to make the code readable so that it can be modified, which requires exhaustive painstaking editing. That's why it takes so long.

This new tool is basically automating that process with a universal frontend that handles real-time graphics API translation, vs the manual ports which generally mod modern graphics APIs into the game.

 

[oofdragon]

It sucks to live in capitalism. Imagine a world without proprietary consoles and etc, you just have a universal console hardware called PC and every game designed to run on it is open source from the start.

 

[Thunder64]

It sucks to live in capitalism. Imagine a world without proprietary consoles and etc, you just have a universal console hardware called PC and every game designed to run on it is open source from the start.

Without capitalism you wouldn't be able to say how awful it is on the internet.

 

[TerryLaze]

...and yes. Nintendo will hate this. Which, means I love it.

Nintendo will love this to easily add n64 games to the switch, heck this opens up the way to a n64mini.
But they will also hunt this down, probably, if there is a legal opening for them to do so.

It sucks to live in capitalism. Imagine a world without proprietary consoles and etc, you just have a universal console hardware called PC and every game designed to run on it is open source from the start.

Yeah have a look at itch.io , that would be the average level of quality you would get from that sort of games.

 

[Rex Sceleratorum]

So this method of emulation seems to do upfront what I assumed every other emulator was already doing in real time.
Maybe that's because I exclusively code in Assembly and C?

So now I'm just scratching my head wondering what the other emulators are actually doing, and why.
I was also confused when I found out people spending 2 years to manually decompile an N64 game. It's just find and replace to decompile machine code into Assembly. You could write a script to do that in half a day... So what are these people actually doing?

Emulators emulate, not decompile or recompile.

Decompilation is not the 1:1 conversion to assembly that you mean, rather it is the conversion to a higher level, hardware-independent language such as C.

So that they can then be recompiled to a different instruction set such as x86-64. This allows running them natively on a normal PC, without the overhead of emulation. They can also be altered more easily to add features since they are now in a high level language.

 

[Rex Sceleratorum]

It sucks to live in capitalism. Imagine a world without proprietary consoles and etc, you just have a universal console hardware called PC and every game designed to run on it is open source from the start.

Apart from Tetris, originally a hobby project, I don't know any game that the Communists managed to produce until 1992.

They were too busy standing in bread lines and bribing officials for shoes or furniture to bother with decadent luxuries like video games.

 

[Colif]

What I always wanted, a Ray Traced version of Superman 64. But without all the fog, it wouldn't be the same.
Wave race 64 would be cool.

 

[eichwana]

Rogue Squadron 3D and Shadows of the Empire, here I come!

Once I can be bothered to decipher all the necessary work to get them running

 

[salgado18]

If Nintendo doesn't take this as a hint to remake classics in newer consoles, then nothing will.

 

[Colif]

Well, possible the shift 2 will use SD Express cards so Nintendo might make a killing just selling old shift games on the new format.

Nintendo will kill this if it makes too much money.

 

[Giroro]

Well, possible the shift 2 will use SD Express cards so Nintendo might make a killing just selling old shift games on the new format.

Nintendo will kill this if it makes too much money.

I would have bought a hypothetical Switch Pro if the only change they made was to increase the SD/EMMS reads to UHS-II speeds of ~300 MBps. Slow, frequent loads (and deliberately time-wasting design to hide loading) are high on the list of reasons I think ToTK is frustratingly one of their worst Zelda games.

But Nintento would definitely need something faster like SD Express to justify calling their next console Next-Gen. Some proprietary implementation of PCIe 3 x1 (or better) or UFS 2.0 in the carts would be a fine place to start, too. They don't need to be insanely fast, because I doubt they'll be targeting massive UHD textures... but they need to be a lot faster than they currently are.

 

[Co0p89]

So this method of emulation seems to do upfront what I assumed every other emulator was already doing in real time.
Maybe that's because I exclusively code in Assembly and C?

So now I'm just scratching my head wondering what the other emulators are actually doing, and why.
I was also confused when I found out people spending 2 years to manually decompile an N64 game. It's just find and replace to decompile machine code into Assembly. You could write a script to do that in half a day... So what are these people actually doing?

What you assume is wrong.

 

[nharding]

The Saturn Sonic 3D Blast was done using an assembly language to C++ converter that I wrote and then I added new graphics, visual effects, CD sound, etc but the code was identical to the Genesis version. So this is basically doing what I did for the Saturn version but automating it.

 

[TheyCallMeContra]

The Saturn Sonic 3D Blast was done using an assembly language to C++ converter that I wrote and then I added new graphics, visual effects, CD sound, etc but the code was identical to the Genesis version. So this is basically doing what I did for the Saturn version but automating it.

Saturn 3D Blast is a cool port, thanks for sounding off!

 

[ezst036]

It sucks to live in capitalism. Imagine a world without proprietary consoles and etc, you just have a universal console hardware called PC and every game designed to run on it is open source from the start.

Imagine if all the people who said this sort of phrasing actually meant what they said, switched to Linux or FreeBSD, and got off of the corporate bandwagon. The market share would double.