need a complete desktop below rs 30000

[ankur172004]

hi, m from india
i need to build a comlete dsktop below rs30000 (not extendable) $535 for my uncle who will be using it mainly for educational purpose. me on the other hand wil be using it occationaly for playin games those my dsktop cant run (like crysis 3, bf 3, 4 etc). i am unable to complete it below that amount so need help. iv already crossed rs28000 and still need to select cabinet, speakers and ups no amd please since he is insisting on i3 and that lg monitor. i have a few questions though

1. is my config good enough , reliable and longlasting? if not please recommend

2.can i play bf 3,4 and crysis 3 in lowest setting with this config?


20EN33TS
19.5" LED LCD EN3 Series
Monitor
Rs. 6800

Intel i3 3220
| 95 Ratings
Rs.7550

Gigabyte GA-H61M-D2H Motherboard rs 3200

ASRock H61M-VS4 Motherboard
| 3 Rating
Rs.2985

Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (1 x
4 GB) PC RAM
(CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9)
| 440 Ratings
Rs.2800

ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GT 610
Synergy Edition 2 GB DDR3
Graphics Card
| 208 Ratings
Rs.2850

LG GH24NS71/GH24NS72/
GH24NS95 Internal Optical Drive rs 1100

WD Caviar Blue 500 GB Desktop
Internal Hard Drive (WD5000AAKX)
| 156 Ratings

Microsoft Wired Desktop 600 USB 2.0
Keyboard and Mouse Combo rs 900

cabinet ?

ups?

 

[Half Life]

No, I doubt if you can play the latest games with this build.

30k gets you a browsing station, not a gaming build.

If you can make it close to 50, then we can talk about options.

I'd recommend an I5 CPU over an I3 any day since the price gap is less than the performance gains.

I'd recommend a B75 motherboard over a H61 because they fall in the same price range but you get usb 3 and sata 3 and with some boards, PCI 3 as well.

You'll need a much much stronger GPU to play the games mentioned.

You can buy a local cabinet, psu and ups for the time being all in under 3k.

 

[ankur172004]

as i cant play any of those games, i will cutoff the gfx card and get a better psu and cabinet..

changed the mobo to ASUS P8B75-MLX PLUS Motherboard 4500
is it good enough?

now i need a good psu and cabinet i searched and got these
Cooler Master Elite 344- rs 2300

Corsair SMPS CX430 430 Watts PSU rs-3100
or
Cooler Master Thunder 450W 450 Watts PSU inr 2650

should i go for a frontech midtower and replace the psu?

please suggest any if better..

thank u

 

[Half Life]

Here is what I think

The funds you saved on a graphics card must be put not on a case, but on a better processor.

You can get an i5 if you add the gpu funds to i3 funds.

The mobo is a good one.

The psu and case are good, but I don't think you have budget for that. Go with a local made one for now, and upgrade to a good one shortly.

The cx series gets a lot of good feedback.

In case it was not clear, what I am trying to do here is to get you to a current and capable foundation within your budget so you can build on that later on. With an Ivy bridge i5 and a B75 board, you will be on par with performance and features.

And when you are ready, you can supplement your build with GPU, SSD and a cute case and PSU.

 

[NaniBot]

Gt 610? A bad choice. For crysis 3 you need atleast a midrange card. Im also from India and i completed my game build 2 months ago under rs. 55000(excluding monitor , speakers , mouse). So if you are going to play crysis 3..definitely go with a better gpu unless you are happy playing on the lowest settings on 640x480.

 

[tshrjain]

APU (CPU with integrated graphics): AMD A10-6800k - 9310/- [http://www.snapdeal.com/product/amd-a10-6800k-processor...]
MoBo: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 - 3356/- [http://www.snapdeal.com/product/msi-fm2a55me33-motherbo...]
RAM: Corsair XMS 4GB - 2580/- [http://www.snapdeal.com/product/corsair-4-gb-xms-ddr3/5...]
HDD: Western Digital 500GB Caviar Blue - 3256/- [http://www.snapdeal.com/product/wd-caviar-blue-wd5000aa...]
OD: LG 24x DVD-RW - 950/-
PSU: Corsair VS550 - 3249/- [http://www.snapdeal.com/product/corsair-vs-550-smps/509...]
Total till now: 22701/-

Case: Get a cheaper but good brand like Intex as per your preference
Monitor: Again, as per your preference.

 

[ankur172004]

half life thnx bro
but
i5 + mobo=13600+4999=18600 if i buy these two, how wil i buy the rest of the components with rs13400? also he will not be upgrading /add anything to his pc in next 5 years.just give me a complete desktop spec below the price range including monitor and every thing 4m scratch.. and i will start building a gaminh rig this year so upgrading his one is not necesary..
thank u again

@nanibot i dont mind playin in lowest setings if it plays without destroying a new desktop

@jain amd is not applicble since he insists on intel

 

[Half Life]

i came up with this. these are actual prices in real shops (not online stores, they are a bit more) in south. see if you like the build.

11,000 Intel Ivy Bridge I5 3330 socket 1155 Processor
03,500 Asrock B75M Motherboard (yup, i got this myself)
02,500 Corsair valueselect 4 GB 1666 MHz RAM (this too)
03,000 Seagate 7200 RPM 3.5" 500 GB HDD
03,500 DVD Drive (1,000), Cabinet with SMPS (1,500), Keyboard & Mouse (500), headset (150), speakers (350)
07,000 Your favorite Monitor (mentioned above in your original post)
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30,500 contemporary value build
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what's not included (optional):
01,500 UPS any 650 VA
00,500 Webcam
00,500 Multi card reader

This will stay current for at least 5 years from today. All you will need to the above is a good graphics card when you are ready. At that time, you can also upgrade the cabinet and SMPS to some repouted brand.

Also, your monitor cost is a little high. You will get a 17 - 18.5" monitor around 5 - 5.5 k. Which means, you can buy all the optional stuff like UPS, etc. along with your purchase with the difference.

 

[tshrjain]

half life thnx bro
but
i5 + mobo=13600+4999=18600 if i buy these two, how wil i buy the rest of the components with rs13400? also he will not be upgrading /add anything to his pc in next 5 years.just give me a complete desktop spec below the price range including monitor and every thing 4m scratch.. and i will start building a gaminh rig this year so upgrading his one is not necesary..
thank u again

@nanibot i dont mind playin in lowest setings if it plays without destroying a new desktop

@jain amd is not applicble since he insists on intel

A good Intel APU takes up half the budget, and then Motherboard for the same takes up other half. Try and convince him to go for AMD. They are not as bad as they "used" to be. Previously I was also half minded about AMD stuff until I found good reviews for them and their price-performance ratios is also good.

 

[ankur172004]

today i checked in local shops for the price and its
3000 more costlier than flipkart.. i should have mentioned before that i live in assam so costs are heavy and just got to know that flipkart dont deliver stuff here.. will post the amount as soon as i get the price list at hand..

anyhow.. can i post a diffrent issue in this thread or should i open a diffrent thread?

 

[Half Life]

u can post in the same thread, so everything is together.

is there no way you can travel to a near by city? cause 3k can cover bus charges actually. calcutta, may be?

 

[ankur172004]

nope i think i wil go for i3 that ought to reduce the cost below 3000, and as my uncle will only teach and play movies i3 should do.. and i will upgrade my desktop to play.


now, my desktop needs upgradation.. i will be upgrading it slowly maybe 1 thing in 5-6 months starting from february. each time my budget will be around 15000.
my config is-
core2duo processor
asus p5kpl/am-ps mobo
2gb ram
gfx card gforce 9400gt
frontech cabinet

what should i change first?
should i wait for better versions?
or should i keep saving and buy a completely new pc?

 

[Half Life]

Ok, for your uncle's build, you can also consider pentium G2020 processor if you are planning for an i3. This processor is half the price but is 90% the performance. I have it and can confirm the same.

For your build, everything needs to be changed. You can start with CPU + RAM + Processor first and you may wait until you have saved 20k or so, unless you are also planning for an i3.

Also, why don't you post the cost breakup that was quoted to you. I can verify if they are acceptable.

 

[tshrjain]

nope i think i wil go for i3 that ought to reduce the cost below 3000, and as my uncle will only teach and play movies i3 should do.. and i will upgrade my desktop to play.


now, my desktop needs upgradation.. i will be upgrading it slowly maybe 1 thing in 5-6 months starting from february. each time my budget will be around 15000.
my config is-
core2duo processor
asus p5kpl/am-ps mobo
2gb ram
gfx card gforce 9400gt
frontech cabinet

what should i change first?
should i wait for better versions?
or should i keep saving and buy a completely new pc?

In your case changing parts is not advisable as it could cause a major compatibility/bottleneck problems with other parts. I am guessing the card you have plays the games that you play without any problem (Like CS, GTA etc and other older games).
So, try and save up 30K and we can recommend specs without GPU. Later on get a better GPU (till then you can use the old one). Also, does your Cabinet support Micro ATX MoBo? Can you give the cabinet's model number?
P.S: Also mention the PSU you have along with its wattage.

 

[ankur172004]

after a lot of research i have finaly got a shop in guwahati who sells online via
www.datamationonline.com
i know the shop very well and has the cheapest price in ne. now i am searching for the parts as mentioned by halflife and jain.. wil go and buy from that shop only..

regarding my desktop my psu and cabinets are local brand so wil have to replace those too.. i was a noob when i bought my 1st pc and stil a noob so have no i dea w

 

[Half Life]

I've looked at the key component pages CPU + Mobo+ RAM on the site.

The prices are not too off, may be 500 - 1000 more based on component, and that's not bad.

What I think you need to do is to spend time on the website doing all combinations of components to suit your need.

Let me know if you need any help with sockets MHz or otherwise.

 

[ankur172004]

thnx i will update my choices within a short time.. i am using mobile pages of that site are not loading properly..

 

[ankur172004]

what is socket mhz?

 

[Half Life]

so the socket is for processor. you have sandy bridge (1155), ivy bridge (1155) and haswell (1150)

And then MHz is for RAM. you have from 1066, 1333, 1666 and so on

and then you have Sata 1, 2 and 3 for disk and cd drive connection

and then you have usb 2, 3 for peripheral connection

and then you have VGI, DVI, HDMI for monitor connection

and then you have PCI gen 1,2 and 3 for add-on cards

these are some of the variables that determine your build. why is this important? because each selection impacts the other in some way.

Example:
1. some motherboards support only upto 1666 MHZ RAM.
2. you cannot put an ivy bridge cpu on a haswell motherboard socket. etc.

 

[ankur172004]

ok this is my final

monitor- LG 18.5' LED backlit LCD monitor -6400
or
DELL 18.5' LED backlit LCD monitor- 5832

motherboard- asrock b75- 4300

processor-intel i3 3220- 7900

ram- valueselect corsair 4gb ram- 2572

hdd- Seagate baracuda 1tb- rs 4815
or
Seagate 500 GB Desktop Internal Hard Drive
Rs. 3,585.00

ODD- LG- rs 997

Microsoft keyboard & mouse- rs 850+465= 1315

Missing anything?
going with the lowest price brackets above, total is rs 26736. and i have more 3000 left. got these for ups, cabinet and psu... anymore options?

Odyssey Neo 700 UPS 600 va Rs. 1,575.00

Foxin FC 2612 Single Fan Rs. 1,395.00

Odyssey SMPS 450w Rs. 550.00
or
ZEB 450W T SATA COMPUTER POWER SUPPLY (GOLD SERIES) Rs. 850.00

power fluctuates here. voltage gets very low during evening time around 80-120 vac. will this ups and psu run at that voltage without going to battery backup?

 

[ankur172004]

now as for my desktop, if i buy a new desktop again, i will have to buy a new one 2-3 years after that again.. my present desktop cannot run bf3, 4 and crysis-3. other games run fine. rather i would wait 3-4 years more when more such games pile up! what u say? either upgrade or wait for some more time???

 

[Half Life]

The 500 GB HDD will also do, so there you can save a thousand.

No need for MS Keyboard and mouse. you are wasting money there.Local KB and mouse together cost less than 400. so you can save another thousand there.

UPS is within price range, If available, look for Intex, Luminous or other known brands.

what is this fan that costs 1400? I bought two extra fans and they are 50 each (correct, Rupees fifty only). you can save another thousand there.

On the SMPS, i think you can go with Zeb.

On the power fluctuations, if the voltage goes so low, UPS will take over. Nothing to worry, except the life of UPS will go down and you cannot avoid that.

Edit: I don't see a CD drive in your list and speakers.

 

[Half Life]

..... what u say? either upgrade or wait for some more time???

Generally, you don't fix what is not broken, So if you r PC runs fine for the most part, then I think you should post-pone its upgrade.

why not you hold on until you upgrade uncle's pc. And then decide based on your experience if you want to upgrade as well.

 

[ankur172004]

The 500 GB HDD will also do, so there you can save a thousand.

No need for MS Keyboard and mouse. you are wasting money there.Local KB and mouse together cost less than 400. so you can save another thousand there.

UPS is within price range, If available, look for Intex, Luminous or other known brands.

what is this fan that costs 1400? I bought two extra fans and they are 50 each (correct, Rupees fifty only). you can save another thousand there.

On the SMPS, i think you can go with Zeb.

On the power fluctuations, if the voltage goes so low, UPS will take over. Nothing to worry, except the life of UPS will go down and you cannot avoid that.

Edit: I don't see a CD drive in your list and speakers.

that is a cabinet with a single fan, not a fan.
cd drive written as odd-rs 997

did not select any speaker, he will buy that afterward..

if it goes to ups backup, then working during that time will be imposible ..is there not anyway to make it work?

 

[ankur172004]

i just thought of replacing one by one with 5 months gap so that it wouldnot be heavy on my pocket.. the mobo if possible to a z77 which would supports my present core2duo e7400 @2.80ghz at present and i5 too for future replacement, replacing gfx to 560ti boost, and the cabinet or psu to something better keeping other components from the old one. but guesing that wouldnt be advisable.. any thoughts? i can wait and dont want to take in a hurry