[SOLVED] Need advice for 4k editing power

[sutho]

Hi there I am new here and will be upgrading computers this year. Building my own.

I am looking for the most appropriate CPU and what type of compatible motherboard to go with based on editing 4K video using software like Adobe Premiere Pro. My present computer is using an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 six-core processor, 32,00Mhz 6 cores 12 logical processors.

While that is suitable for 1080, it struggles with 4K. I am getting issues with the smoothness of editing with the preview jumping. Playback is fine but I have come to the realisation I need a more powerful processor.

I am not looking for something that "just" makes the grade of being able to do it. I would like to meet the standard and go a little above what I need but not spending unnecessary money on a processor which I will not use the full potential of.

Other possible uses would be watching full 4K and 1080 video from the PC being duplicated to a 50 inch smart TV. I do not want to lose quality.

I just want to tick off my checklist box in regards to processors to look for and then move onto other things.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Nemesia]

Could you please list your system specs. I don't know what motherboard you have so it's hard to recommend a CPU without knowing the budget and what platform you're on.

 

[sutho]

Could you please list your system specs. I don't know what motherboard you have so it's hard to recommend a CPU without knowing the budget and what platform you're on.

I have not bought a motherboard yet but I will be purchasing one based on the processor I need. I will likely get 64 bit if that is what you are asking. Thanks.

 

[CosmicDance]

Can you please list your full system specs that you have now.
It will help us all to help you choose an upgrade.
Some parts will be able to transfer to the system depending on what you have now.

Thanks

Andy

 

[sutho]

Its highly unlikely I will be able to transfer anything I have to a new build. I am currently using a HP Omen 880-064a. It is a 64-bit system. I recently replaced a failing video card with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 to get by for now. It came with a 118GB SSD which holds the operating system and some programs. That drive is insufficient so I had additional drives installed (myself) which are not SSD, but given the speed of them they will not be used again. My processor is listed in the first part.

Basically I know I need more powerful that what I have at the moment. I need to keep clear of HP because it is getting almost impossible to replace parts as they wear out. For example the CD drive is connected by mini SATA cable and good luck finding a power supply that can hook that up. Given the age of it when I purchased it in 2017 HP advises that the latest RAM, Video cards etc could cause intermittent freezing. It is basically due to the fact that when parts fail with HP it is a whole new computer. So to clear that I will be building my own with parts I know I can change and migrate my hard drives. I will have to purchase windows 10 again.

I have installed a SSD before in my laptop and given it a new lease of life. Changed it from a 15 minute startup time to ready to go in less than around a minute. With good research my skills are good but being my age and working day to day I am a bit out of touch with the latest PC trends and lingo.

 

[Zizo007]

Get a Ryzen 3900X with MSI B450 tomhawk max. You can reuse your GPU and maybe RAM if its stable with memtest86+.
Putting your work files on an SSD also helps.

 

[RodroX]

Hi, at some degree I agree with Zizo007, if youre currently using a Ryzen 5 1600, then you will either stick with AMD and get more horse power (The Ryzen 3900X - 12 cores/24 threads - is a great choice) or go with Intel for its quick sync tech.
The main problem with Intel is that for editing/previewing videos at 4K the only desktop CPU worth it is the Core i9 9900/9900 K (8 Cores/12 Threads + Quick sync).

I have one question no one asked, Do you use the PC to make money? Is editing videos at 1080p/4K a way to earn money?

If the answer is yes, then the above recomendations are worth it.

Then again if a Ryzen 5 1600 is not "that bad" for you, theres also one cheaper choice: the Ryzen 7 3700X (8 cores / 16 threads) + the same MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX.

If you use the PC to make money, so time is very important for you, then the best desktop/gaming/working CPU out there today is the Ryzen 9 3950X, is the desktop beast with 16 cores and 32 threads.

Remember Ryzen loves high speed RAM, so make sure you paired with 2 identical sticks kit of atleast DDR4 3200MHz or 3600MHz. As for capacity is up to you but, 16GB (2x8GB kit) would be the minimum, been 32GB (2x16GB kit) a very good option.

The motherboard proposed by Zizo007 is a solid choice, on the B450 chipset. If you wana go with the X570 chipset the Asus Tuf Gaming X570-Plus is a another great, not soo expensive, choice.

Finally keep in mind that, all "K" intel chips requires you to get an aftermarket cooler cause they don't come with one on the box. On the other hand, all AMD Ryzen cpus comes with a very decent cooler included on the box (just not the R9 3950, which doesn't include one).

Cheers

 

[sutho]

Thanks for that information from both of you. Very helpful and at least I can plan based on needs.

I will need to test my RAM as something happened this year that screwed around the computer big time. I think it had something to do with a blackout and I was getting beeping error codes on startup. It ceased after a fan was replaced and the video card was replaced. Then later fans started running at full pelt during screensaver picture slideshow so I turned off all background apps and it resolved that. The number of beeps corresponded to hardware and eventually video issues.

As for video it is very rare for me to make money off it. Because it is just a hobby if people see I have it like at sports clubs or groups then I may get offers here and there and if I have time then I have made some money off video work like recording karate.

On quick search I can find AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Socket AM4 3.8GHz CPU Processor + Wraith Prism Cooler is about $779 Australian dollars, the Intel Core i9 9900K Octa Core LGA 1151 3.60GHz Unlocked CPU Processor is about $805 Australian, and the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX AM4 ATX Motherboard is about $189 Australian dollars.

Overall not a bad budget to start with knowing what I will be doing with it. So thanks for that information.

 

[Zizo007]

Thanks for that information from both of you. Very helpful and at least I can plan based on needs.

I will need to test my RAM as something happened this year that screwed around the computer big time. I think it had something to do with a blackout and I was getting beeping error codes on startup. It ceased after a fan was replaced and the video card was replaced. Then later fans started running at full pelt during screensaver picture slideshow so I turned off all background apps and it resolved that. The number of beeps corresponded to hardware and eventually video issues.

As for video it is very rare for me to make money off it. Because it is just a hobby if people see I have it like at sports clubs or groups then I may get offers here and there and if I have time then I have made some money off video work like recording karate.

On quick search I can find AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core Socket AM4 3.8GHz CPU Processor + Wraith Prism Cooler is about $779 Australian dollars, the Intel Core i9 9900K Octa Core LGA 1151 3.60GHz Unlocked CPU Processor is about $805 Australian, and the MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX AM4 ATX Motherboard is about $189 Australian dollars.

Overall not a bad budget to start with knowing what I will be doing with it. So thanks for that information.

For your usage the 3900X will be much better than the 9900K.

 

[RodroX]

No problem, glad it was of help.

 

[sutho]

For your usage the 3900X will be much better than the 9900K.

Thanks that is helpful information and is definitely on the list as a priority.

 

[sutho]

No problem, glad it was of help.

Thanks for additional parts to look at, that is helpful.

I will keep posted on here how I go. Due to work schedules and my time off on April, I should expect to start sometime after that but will gradually acquire the parts I need.