Question Need advice on cooling.

[yourkomorebi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507258611659014145

I have a Coolermaster TD500 with a Ryzen 9 5900x and a Gigabyte 3080 ti.

What are the temps I should be expecting both under load and when not? Is my case properly cooled? I have three intake fans on the front that go into the radiator for the AIO and then two fans on the other side mounted on the radiator for intake as well. I have four outtake fans. (Hopefully the picture posts).

Note: this is the only place I can mount the AIO. It doesn’t fit on top.

 

[Phaaze88]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507564381298577409

View: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507564381298577409

Now those, should be for 140mm fans+radiators.

 

[yourkomorebi]

Now those, should be for 140mm fans+radiators.

Those holes are the only holes my radiator can mount on in the front. I cannot move it up as there are no holes. This is what I have:
https://nzxt.com/product/kraken-z53-rgb

 

[Phaaze88]

Those holes are the only holes my radiator can mount on in the front.

Those holes you've circled are for 140mm class fans and radiators.
If someone had the same chassis as you, but a 360mm AIO, they would HAVE to remove those 3 chassis fans in order to mount the radiator - they are in the way.

This is what I have:
https://nzxt.com/product/kraken-z53-rgb

Yes, and the spacing for 120 and 140mm fans and rads is universal.

 

[yourkomorebi]

Those holes you've circled are for 140mm class fans and radiators.
If someone had the same chassis as you, but a 360mm AIO, they would HAVE to remove those 3 chassis fans in order to mount the radiator - they are in the way.


Yes, and the spacing for 120 and 140mm fans and rads is universal.

I don't understand what you want me to do. I am unable to mount the radiator or the fans on the radiator to the front of the case where the fans are as the radiator holes do not line up.

 

[Phaaze88]

Well, I'm going to concede in regards to this AIO front mount. If you leave the AIO as it is though, it won't last as long.

I wish I could tell what was actually going on. Maybe you got a fake TD500 or something...

 

[yourkomorebi]

Well, I'm going to concede in regards to this AIO front mount. If you leave the AIO as it is though, it won't last as long.

I wish I could tell what was actually going on. Maybe you got a fake TD500 or something...

There's not a place I can move it to unfortunately, regardless of where :/. The three sets of holes for the fans aren't compatible with my AIO, only the three sets from the middle to the bottom

 

[Phaaze88]

I'm sorry...
The 120 and 140mm spacing is supposed to be universal...

Front panel view

Spoiler

Behind the front panel

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This is a build with a front mounted 240mm AIO inside a TD500 Mesh

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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHExCqqtDvY

 

[yourkomorebi]

I'm sorry...
The 120 and 140mm spacing is supposed to be universal...

Front panel view

Spoiler

Behind the front panel

Spoiler

This is a build with a front mounted 240mm AIO inside a TD500 Mesh

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHExCqqtDvY

I’ll take out the radiator and get back to you.

 

[yourkomorebi]

I'm sorry...
The 120 and 140mm spacing is supposed to be universal...

Front panel view

Spoiler

Behind the front panel

Spoiler

This is a build with a front mounted 240mm AIO inside a TD500 Mesh

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHExCqqtDvY

I'm sorry...
The 120 and 140mm spacing is supposed to be universal...

Front panel view

Spoiler

Behind the front panel

Spoiler

This is a build with a front mounted 240mm AIO inside a TD500 Mesh

Spoiler

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHExCqqtDvY

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507597829564370954

View: https://twitter.com/kazumahere_/status/1507597829564370954?s=21


So the red holes are the “universal” spacing, the only place I can mount my radiator. There is no top red hole. I can theoretically mount the radiator by putting it all the way to the top and removing the fan above it - but it doesn’t work like that either because the cables going to the top where the USB and power button are block it and also I wouldn’t be able to screw anything into the top holes of the radiator. Only the middle and bottom would be mounted to the case.

Even if I remove all the fans on the front, the holes those fans (in green) use don’t work with the radiator because the radiator is wider. That’s why I need to use the red holes.

 

[Karadjgne]

I see what's going on. You are trying to mount seperately and that doesn't work. With the kraken came some longer 6/32 screws. With the case came some short fat stubby thick screws for mounting the fans.

What needs to happen is you remove the short fat screws, and the long thin screws go back in those same holes, through the fans and into the radiator holes, sandwiching the fans between the radiator and case.

It's a little bit of a pain, but that's how it's done. If worried about the fans falling out of place, you can leave the bottom 2 screws on each fan, and just use the top holes of each fan for the long screws. 4x screws is plenty of support to start with and once those are in and snug, then swap the 4 remaining screws out.

My kraken came with 16 long screws, 8 being just a few threads longer than the other 8. You'd want to use the longest 8 to go through case-push fan-rad. The remaining 8 long screws are for use in the rear of the rad, going through the pull fans.

 

[CountMike]

There are three fans on the front that pull air into the radiator, and on the other side of the radiator are the fans that blow into it as well from inside the case.

If I get it right,you have fans on mounted on the radiator on both sides of it ???? One pushing air against the other one ????

 

[yourkomorebi]

I see what's going on. You are trying to mount seperately and that doesn't work. With the kraken came some longer 6/32 screws. With the case came some short fat stubby thick screws for mounting the fans.

What needs to happen is you remove the short fat screws, and the long thin screws go back in those same holes, through the fans and into the radiator holes, sandwiching the fans between the radiator and case.

It's a little bit of a pain, but that's how it's done. If worried about the fans falling out of place, you can leave the bottom 2 screws on each fan, and just use the top holes of each fan for the long screws. 4x screws is plenty of support to start with and once those are in and snug, then swap the 4 remaining screws out.

My kraken came with 16 long screws, 8 being just a few threads longer than the other 8. You'd want to use the longest 8 to go through case-push fan-rad. The remaining 8 long screws are for use in the rear of the rad, going through the pull fans.

So I found this video that’s nearly identical build as me, same motherboard, case and RAM - just a different AIO. I don’t know what the dimensions on his AIO is - but it managed to fit on the top without hitting the RAM or the top of the motherboard. Maybe my AIO is just too chonk.

As to what you said, that wouldn’t work either because the long screws are for mounting the NZXT fans to the NZXT radiator. Even if I use the long screws to go through the case fans (the Coolermaster ones), the radiator holes do not line up with those holes. They line up with separate holes that are more wider on the case. I believe I marked them in red above.

 

[yourkomorebi]

If I get it right,you have fans on mounted on the radiator on both sides of it ???? One pushing air against the other one ????

I used to have fans that would push fresh air on the outside of the case into the radiator, and then the radiator fans pushing air from inside the case into the radiator as well. I since flipped it to a push pull thanks to the kind people in this thread.

 

[Karadjgne]

I think you misunderstand.

CASE | FAN| RAD. You'll only use 1 set, whether that's the nzxt or the case fans is upto you. You don't use both.

To use the case fans, you'd remove the nzxt fans from the radiator, use those same screws or the longer set and screw the rad to the case fans.

If the case fans are 120mm and the nzxt are 140mm, then you need to remove the case fans entirely, and mount the rad and fans to the case in their place, using the longest screws through the case, through the fan and into the rad holes.

 

[yourkomorebi]

I think you misunderstand.

CASE | FAN| RAD. You'll only use 1 set, whether that's the nzxt or the case fans is upto you. You don't use both.

To use the case fans, you'd remove the nzxt fans from the radiator, use those same screws or the longer set and screw the rad to the case fans.

If the case fans are 120mm and the nzxt are 140mm, then you need to remove the case fans entirely, and mount the rad and fans to the case in their place, using the longest screws through the case, through the fan and into the rad holes.

I believe I follow, I’ll try after work. You’re saying I should either mount the NZXT fans / the Coolermaster fans to the case and then mount the radiator to the fans. But I fear the same problem still arises, it will still be where it is now because there’s no supporting holes any higher to do so.