Question Need advice on which GPU to pick

[CursedRat]

Hi all!

I'm going all out to make a new build currently. I know that the 50 series are coming out, but im planning probably to skip the 50th generation.

Currently im mostly gaming 1080p/1440p and im wondering between a RTX 4090 and a RX 7900 XTX, which would fit best considering im not aiming at 4k gaming?

The only reason i'm really thinking of going for the RX 7900 XTX is because the price is so much smaller for it. Unfortunately i have not had a Radeon card in ages... my last 3-4 GPU's were all NVidia and im a bit scared if it will fit my needs or if i will hit any issues.

From what i hear, if you want bang for the buck its RX 7900 XTX , but i hear overall performance of the RTX 4090 is insane to often pass on, especially if you want future stability. I'm not really looking to ever go to 4k for the moment, i do have a 4k Monitor i mostly use for work as it makes the texts and images much nicer to look at.

Sorry if the question is dumb or weird... i'm just in a standstill, mostly because im scared to buy a Radeon card for some reason. I don't really like to tweak temps, clocks, curves etc.. i just like to buy and for it to work decently out of the box, and everyone is saying if i buy a 7900 XTX i would need to tweak it.

 

[logainofhades]

I have had an RX 6800 for over 3yrs and never tweaked anything, and have never had an issue with it. The 4090 is without a doubt a beast of a card, and faster than the 7900xtx, but not nearly twice the price faster.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hi all!

I'm going all out to make a new build currently. I know that the 50 series are coming out, but im planning probably to skip the 50th generation.

Currently im mostly gaming 1080p/1440p and im wondering between a RTX 4090 and a RX 7900 XTX, which would fit best considering im not aiming at 4k gaming?

The only reason i'm really thinking of going for the RX 7900 XTX is because the price is so much smaller for it. Unfortunately i have not had a Radeon card in ages... my last 3-4 GPU's were all NVidia and im a bit scared if it will fit my needs or if i will hit any issues.

From what i hear, if you want bang for the buck its RX 7900 XTX , but i hear overall performance of the RTX 4090 is insane to often pass on, especially if you want future stability. I'm not really looking to ever go to 4k for the moment, i do have a 4k Monitor i mostly use for work as it makes the texts and images much nicer to look at.

Sorry if the question is dumb or weird... i'm just in a standstill, mostly because im scared to buy a Radeon card for some reason. I don't really like to tweak temps, clocks, curves etc.. i just like to buy and for it to work decently out of the box, and everyone is saying if i buy a 7900 XTX i would need to tweak it.

Hey there,

Well, firstly, can you list your PC specs? KNowing that would make a recommendation a lot easier.

I think both of those cards will certainly give you what you want, but so would a RTX 4080 Super.

What is the primary purpose for the machine? I'm assuming gaming?

 

[CursedRat]

Hey there,

Well, firstly, can you list your PC specs? KNowing that would make a recommendation a lot easier.

I think both of those cards will certainly give you what you want, but so would a RTX 4080 Super.

What is the primary purpose for the machine? I'm assuming gaming?

Case: Lian Li Lancool III
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X(will be upgrading in future, but this will be for now)
Mobo: ASRock B650M Pro RS
RAM: 2x16GB DDR5 6000 G.SKILL Flare X5 AMD EXPO

I guess those are the most important parts, i do have a CPU Cooler i bought im not using stong im using a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5

I'm mainly gaming. I do play a lot of " competitive " type FPS/Third-person shooters with my buddies on a 1080p and often on my 2k monitor i play more cinematic games. I'm really only trying to acheive high FPSs in games, i know that.. im under utilizing both video cards if i dont strive 4k or that my CPU could be better, but im all aware of that and for the moment i wish to go this route if possible.

Thanks for taking your time to advise me!

EDIT: I believe if i switch to RX 7900 XTX i could instead get a AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D as CPU as it will give me overhead. But if i go down the RTX 4090 i will have to use the 5 7600X for a bit.

 

[CursedRat]

I have had an RX 6800 for over 3yrs and never tweaked anything, and have never had an issue with it. The 4090 is without a doubt a beast of a card, and faster than the 7900xtx, but not nearly twice the price faster.

My thoughts exactly, its a beast of a card, but if im not targeting 4k, would i hit that much performance hit? I do want the highest FPS i can acheive in a 1080/2k side of things, but i'm not sure it would be that much of a difference.

 

[CursedRat]

Hi!

So an update on this.. here are the parts im going for... I can either go with RTX 4090 and stick to a Ryzen 5 7600X or go with a Ryzen 7 7800x3D and RX 7900 XTX

SSD: 1TB WD Black SN770
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X (4.7GHz) / AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3D (only if going for RX 7900 XTX)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III (white)
PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M Gold 80+ (850W)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5
RAM: 2x16GB DDR5 6000 G.SKILL Flare X5 AMD EXPO

Honestly im looking for longevity here and although the 7600X isnt the best it seems it can hold over the 4090 for now and it might be that the 4090 provides me more longevity than the RX 7900 XTX?

Thank you for any input on this!

 

[logainofhades]

The 4090 may hold up longer, but at nearly twice the cost, it really is a terrible buy. The 7800x3d is going to hold up longer than a 7600x, and a GPU is easier to replace, than a CPU, even if said GPU costs more.

 

[CursedRat]

The 4090 may hold up longer, but at nearly twice the cost, it really is a terrible buy. The 7800x3d is going to hold up longer than a 7600x, and a GPU is easier to replace, than a CPU, even if said GPU costs more.

I did check a lot of benchmarks regarding it and even at 1080p it seems that the 4090 performs 20-30% better. And if i don't plan to swap my GPU in the next 4-5 years, it feels like the 7900 XTX would diminish the performance faster in the long run.

Although CPU's are a hassle to swap, i could always hire a service to do it for me as ive used such services before when i was too busy to do it myself.

EDIT: Would a 4080 Super be better than the 7900 XTX then?

 

[logainofhades]

1080p you become CPU bound, so the 4090 will not get to stretch it's legs very well, and will get held back by a 7600x.

 

[CursedRat]

1080p you become CPU bound, so the 4090 will not get to stretch it's legs very well, and will get held back by a 7600x.

Thank you!

Where can i find this specific benchmarks screenshots you are sending? I usually use some youtubers benchmarks and check what other people posted, but might not be as accurate, sine a lot of times their becnhmarks show worse.

I'm really starting to think that XTX 7900 with a 7800x3D probably is the smarter decision, i think my brain just listens too much to others opinions on "4090 or nothing" xD

 

[logainofhades]

Hardware unboxed for the video format, and techspot for the written review.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Super Review

One would assume that Nvidia's "new" GeForce RTX 4080 Super is a special version of the original. But in reality, it's essentially the RTX 4080 with a...

www.techspot.com

 

[i6pwr]

Currently im mostly gaming 1080p/1440p

I'm not really looking to ever go to 4k for the moment

I think this mostly answers your question. Sidestep...I don't want to know your financials, but if you are carrying a balance on a credit card, then save your money and get a 7900XT or a 4070.

Why?


You said 4-5 years before an upgrade, why do you need 200+ FPS or even 300 FPS?

I'm in the same dillema as you with my 5950X and 1440P. I'm currently using a 3060 Ti and works beautifully, debating the XTX mainly for Vram. If the 4080 had 20GB of Vram, they would clean house...it's the future proof of the Vram which lures me to AMD...I could care less about RT.

The XTX puts $800 in your bank, an7900 XT over the 4090 saves you more than $1K.

If you want to drive a 2000 HP dyno king diesel pickup everyday then get the 4090, but ask yourself....in 4-5 years, what GPU will be avail for $1K. Safe bet something that works far better with current games than a relic 4090 at 1440P.

I try to target 120 FPS low at 1440P ultrawide, the 7900 XT has this in spades with 20GB of Vram. Sapphire Nitro 7900 XT is what I suggest you look at, then if money is no issue, then maybe the 4080 Super, but for 1440P, the 4090 is a waste of $$ IMO...let the benchmarkers post their scores, I want a card for gaming.

That being said, I keep going back and forth between the 4080 Super and the 7900 XTX, but the 7900 XT has 25% more Vram than the 4080, faster bus, and will be great for VR, and other high RAM resourced titles...as well as cheaper.

Just my thoughts.

 

[CursedRat]

I think this mostly answers your question. Sidestep...I don't want to know your financials, but if you are carrying a balance on a credit card, then save your money and get a 7900XT or a 4070.

Why?


You said 4-5 years before an upgrade, why do you need 200+ FPS or even 300 FPS?

I'm in the same dillema as you with my 5950X and 1440P. I'm currently using a 3060 Ti and works beautifully, debating the XTX mainly for Vram. If the 4080 had 20GB of Vram, they would clean house...it's the future proof of the Vram which lures me to AMD...I could care less about RT.

The XTX puts $800 in your bank, an7900 XT over the 4090 saves you more than $1K.

If you want to drive a 2000 HP dyno king diesel pickup everyday then get the 4090, but ask yourself....in 4-5 years, what GPU will be avail for $1K. Safe bet something that works far better with current games than a relic 4090 at 1440P.

I try to target 120 FPS low at 1440P ultrawide, the 7900 XT has this in spades with 20GB of Vram. Sapphire Nitro 7900 XT is what I suggest you look at, then if money is no issue, then maybe the 4080 Super, but for 1440P, the 4090 is a waste of $$ IMO...let the benchmarkers post their scores, I want a card for gaming.

That being said, I keep going back and forth between the 4080 Super and the 7900 XTX, but the 7900 XT has 25% more Vram than the 4080, faster bus, and will be great for VR, and other high RAM resourced titles...as well as cheaper.

Just my thoughts.

I never really owned a credit card, and i will be paying the whole build pretty much out of pocket, i honestly have a pretty meh setup at the moment, my GPU is great but all my other components are so old, its like putting a V8 engine on carriage.


To be honest, i just want to make sure i get the bets build i generally like to invest in one go for a build. And ive often had in the past issues where i would buy a card that people say it will perform great n 1080p High/Ultra settings and give me 100 FPS for example, but i would barely be able to hold 60-70. Pretty much why i feel like the 4090 will guarantee i never have such issues, but im also really worried im just gonna overpay and that the XTX 7900 will do the same job fine.

Generally i'm not interested in RT or Ray Pathing and all the new stuff, i usually turn those stuff off. I'm an oldschool baked in shadow guys lol. I just want for the next 5 years not to worry when i open a game and put it on High/Ultra at 1080p or 2k if i will hit those 100+ fps. I've got both monitors at 144hz as well, so i definetly benefit of having 120fps in my games.

P.S: I'm not going into financial debt or anything, i work from home my PC is used for more than gaming in general, my hobby is gaming/reading mainly, i got plenty of other life necessities. This is really my only splurge, otherwise i would waste my money on dum stuff.. might as well invest in something i use 12 hours a day...

 

[i6pwr]

This is really my only splurge, otherwise i would waste my money on dum stuff.. might as well invest in something i use 12 hours a day

Exactly my mindset. Instead of bar hopping, wasting money on unnecessary items I would rather be home with the family and use my limited personal time with the PC and not upgrade for a few years.

If the 4090 was $1200 I would be all over it, but it's a greedy cash cow for Nvidia.

I'm worried about the possibility of coil whine with the XTX, but these seem to be more isolated incidents, the Sapphire Nitro appears to be a safe option.

The 4080 should be $800, and the Super $1K, at that price point, a 4080 would be the ticket despite "only" 16GB...that's why I like the 7900XT but the XTX at $1K has my attention, still overpriced, but more bang for the buck IMO.

Also, doesn't the AMD CPU's play better with AMD GPU's? The much faster bus speed and higher Vram makes me think (in my limited knowledge) that for the next 4 years the 7900 XT or XTX is the better choice.

 

[CursedRat]

Also, doesn't the AMD CPU's play better with AMD GPU's? The much faster bus speed and higher Vram makes me think (in my limited knowledge) that for the next 4 years the 7900 XT or XTX is the better choice.

Honestly... ive been doing A LOT of research and what logainofhades says is kind of true.

If you check the 4090 performance on 1080/2k with a 7600X its worse than just buying a 7800x3D and 7900XTX. Also you get probably one of the best darn CPU's for a while and you wont need an upgrade anytime soon on that from what i see.

Honestly if the 4090 was cheaper.. i wouldnt think about it. But the 7900 XTX just hits the crorect spots. Where i live the 4080 Super and 7900 XTX are basically the same price. And for the price of 4090 i can buy 2 7900 XTX's ... or 2 4080 Supers , which kinda makes it a total ripoff in general. I think im just stick in "what if im wrong and i had to buy the 4090", but i don't really pay much attention to FPS nowadays either, who knows why im stuckup on that one haha.

Smart choice is obviously 7900 XTX A LOT of people went that route, the greedy one is 4090.. its the truth honestly. Unless you t arget some insane 4k full RT ultra giga, its kind of pointless to feed into Nvidia. On top of that we have to vote with wallets, but get pressured to go an skip a great card like 7900 XTX or 4080 Super for overpriced brick that you will probably swap in 5 to 7 years anyway lol.