[SOLVED] Need an advice, please: After upgrading to a newer and more powerful CPU, I get the same results in games like with the older CPU

[misho8723]

Could someone from you help me with this?

Previously I had a Intel i5-4460 CPU, now I have i7-4790k.. but when I play games, I have pretty much the same fps like when I had the older one CPU.. what reason could there be for that? I mean, I know that DDR3 RAMs are old now, but still even compared to people who have the same CPU, GPU - GTX 1070 - and RAMs - 16 GB DDR3 - I have much worse results when it comes to fps in games

+ after installing the new CPU, 2 out of my 4 RAM slots stopped working - only A1 and A2 slots are working

+ here are my stats with CPU and GPU temperatures - http://i.picpar.com/0cjd.jpg

+ here is a benchmark for Far Cry New Dawn where they used i7-4770k, which is somewhat slower than my CPU, but they are getting way better results with that CPU and with my GPU

http://i.picpar.com/fNid.jpg

- my own screen of my results in FCND (with very often occuring drops even to 35 - 40 fps):

http://i.picpar.com/RPid.jpg

CPUID:

 

[Darkbreeze]

If you read the thread, you'd know that yes, he has the latest bios and that he ALSO had bent pins on the motherboard. So, it's definitely not related to an outdated BIOS.

 

[misho8723]

If you read the thread, you'd know that yes, he has the latest bios and that he ALSO had bent pins on the motherboard. So, it's definitely not related to an outdated BIOS.

Ok, so after some more playing with the CPU socket pins, now very single of the 4 memory slots are working- what is better, 2x8 dual channel GB RAMs
(Kingston HyperX Savage DDR3 16GB (2x8GB) 1600MHz CL9 HX316C9SRK2/16)

or 2x8GB Rams in dual-channel and 2x4GB RAMs (the same type, the same manufacturer, the samew MHz)

 

[Darkbreeze]

So both sets are now working in dual channel? You've checked this in CPU-Z? If so, that's great. Should make a big difference. So hopefully now you are at normal, dual channel memory operation and have a stable CPU configuration and OS.

Is there anything further you are looking to accomplish and have you tried any of the games or benchmarks that were borked before to see that you are getting results in line with what you should be expecting to see now?

 

[misho8723]

So both sets are now working in dual channel? You've checked this in CPU-Z? If so, that's great. Should make a big difference. So hopefully now you are at normal, dual channel memory operation and have a stable CPU configuration and OS.

Is there anything further you are looking to accomplish and have you tried any of the games or benchmarks that were borked before to see that you are getting results in line with what you should be expecting to see now?

Yep, dual channel..

2x4GB RAMs and 2x8GB RAMs, all of them in dual channel setting working..and yes, tried some games (Witcher 3, Far Cry New Dawn, Metro Exodus, Dragon Age: Inquisition , etc..) all are doing way better in fps tests, and all of them are going 60 fps at max in 1080p with vsync on, (in the case of Metro Exodus video settings are on Ultra, because in Extreme the PC struggles with 60 fps and with minimal difference in visual fidelity).. so now the PC is perfoming much better than before and with all memory slots working.. so all thanks to all the people who helped me here, but really mainly you Darkbrezze in fixing and helping with my problem

For the meantime I'm going to use my CPU cooler (temperature of the CPU right now is 33-35 degrees), but when I decide to OC my CPU, then I'm going to buy me a new, better CPU cooler, even though many of the most effective for mine CPU are too big for my PC case - my current CPU cooler is 156mm in height, most of the better ones are 165 mm or more and that is too much for my PC case )
Anyway, everything so far works as it should and for that a big thanks to all of you, mainly your Darkbreeze

 

[Darkbreeze]

What is your case model?

 

[misho8723]

What is your case model?

It's a Zalman Z1 case

 

[Darkbreeze]

Is it the ZM-Z1 or the Z1 Neo?

 

[misho8723]

Is it the ZM-Z1 or the Z1 Neo?

This one:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zalman-z1-midi-tower-usb-3.0-black-ca-080-za.html

 

[Darkbreeze]

That's the ZM-Z1. Zalman, as usual, provides very few specifications for this product including no specification for maximum CPU cooler height. Looking around the web at some reviews on Amazon and other sites, it seems a lot of owners have been able to install Hyper 212 EVO coolers in this case without modifications, which is not a cooler I would recommend but it does indicate that it will support coolers up to 160mm tall.

In which case, this would be an excellent choice unless you plan to make a change of case at some point, which would obviously change the options. At 159mm, these are probably the ONLY tower CPU coolers with a 140mm fan that are short enough to fit that case AND are known for superior performance. Next to Noctua, I'd probably put Thermalright in second place among CPU cooler performance brands. Do not confuse them with Thermaltake though, who is only a middling type company for the most part.

And yes, there is a big difference between the performance of heatsinks that use 120mm fans and those that use 140mm fans, or multiple 140mm fans, or a combination of a 140mm fan AND a 120mm fan.


http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/53/macho-direct

http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/56/le-grand-macho-rt

 

[misho8723]

That's the ZM-Z1. Zalman, as usual, provides very few specifications for this product including no specification for maximum CPU cooler height. Looking around the web at some reviews on Amazon and other sites, it seems a lot of owners have been able to install Hyper 212 EVO coolers in this case without modifications, which is not a cooler I would recommend but it does indicate that it will support coolers up to 160mm tall.

In which case, this would be an excellent choice unless you plan to make a change of case at some point, which would obviously change the options. At 159mm, these are probably the ONLY tower CPU coolers with a 140mm fan that are short enough to fit that case AND are known for superior performance. Next to Noctua, I'd probably put Thermalright in second place among CPU cooler performance brands. Do not confuse them with Thermaltake though, who is only a middling type company for the most part.

And yes, there is a big difference between the performance of heatsinks that use 120mm fans and those that use 140mm fans, or multiple 140mm fans, or a combination of a 140mm fan AND a 120mm fan.


http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/53/macho-direct

http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/56/le-grand-macho-rt

Ok, so that Thermalright Macho Direct would be in your opinion a good choice for the 4790k? Even if I would some day decided to OC it? They have it here for 38.40 €.. One of my biggest fears with CPU cooler is that it's going to block memory slots from using.. now I can use all my memory slots, for the total of 24 GB because my current Zalman cooler is only 127 mm in length

 

[Darkbreeze]

The original conception of the Macho has been maintained: The heat sink is aligned to the rear of the PC case, which ensures that even when using ram modules with high-rising heat spreaders no incompatibilities will arise. The aluminum cooling fins are perforated by a plurality of air holes, which counteract air accumulation between the cooling fins.

 

[misho8723]

Yeah, but that talks only about the air accumulation and heat between the cooler and RAMs, but not about the fact that it's maybe so big that after installing it and it's fan, it's going to block me from using probably the A1 memory slot

 

[Darkbreeze]

No, that's not what you were supposed to take from that. Let's try again.

The heat sink is aligned to the rear of the PC case, which ensures that even when using ram modules with high-rising heat spreaders no incompatibilities will arise.

The heatsink is OFFSET towards the back of the case so that ALL of the memory slots can be used regardless of whether you have tall or short memory modules.

 

[misho8723]

No, that's not what you were supposed to take from that. Let's try again.



The heatsink is OFFSET towards the back of the case so that ALL of the memory slots can be used regardless of whether you have tall or short memory modules.

Ah ok, yeah, now I get it.. and you think that cooler is good enough for my CPU? I know it's not the best option, but if it's better than mine current one and can potentially be good enough to keep the CPU ok to work even when OC, then that would be really great

 

[Darkbreeze]

Both of those are extremely high quality, high performance coolers. Yes, there are better air coolers out there, but there are not many that are better using only a single fin stack and a single fan. It will be plenty for your CPU. Even if you overclock so long as you keep it reasonably realistic.

 

[misho8723]

Both of those are extremely high quality, high performance coolers. Yes, there are better air coolers out there, but there are not many that are better using only a single fin stack and a single fan. It will be plenty for your CPU. Even if you overclock so long as you keep it reasonably realistic.

Well then, for nearly 39 € - Macho Direct - that's a good deal.. Thanks for all those tips man

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yes sir.