Need emediate help, Core 2 Duo core temp 90+ C

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I'd rather be safe than sorry. Reapplying thermal paste and reseeding the HSF properly is a better alternative than the processor destruction. I ran into a similar issue, but reapplying/reseeding allotted me the process of elimination. I strongly recommend you eliminate user error, which we all have had in the past, present and future. Good luck!
 
Thanks, Im going to have to try tomorow. I still cant make any sense out of this, except that it wasnt thermal paste it was 3 thermal pads. When removed, should it look like I described? Not all of the processor covered, and some areas are darker than others....

I've never had this problem before, ever. And I've cetainly never had to redo this... I can't quite believe that it was running above 90 degrees C. Felt more like 25-30.
 
Geez, 90C? Last time I saw those kind of temps was when I built my 3.4ghz (prescott first generation, socket 478)... Using the stock fan or the Aerocool High Tower, I couldn't get temps below 75C and it usually reached high 80s while loading Windows lol (yes it was properly seated, did it 3x). Had to McGuyver a watercooling kit with what I had near me, but the results were great : idle at 25-30C, load around 30-35C (no OC...)

I agree with all the previous posters but I think it might be more of a sensor problem than anything else, even if the heatsink wasn't properly seated at 90C the air around the cpu would've been enough to raise the heatsinks temperature most likely above the 25-30C you described.

Kerdal
 
Agreed.

So many factors that goes into it.

90C and somewhat cold HS in my mind just tells me no heat transfer is going on, if the hardware is operating (bios) correctly.

Only thing I can think of is air bubble or air gap. But since Icandy is stating thermal pad, hmmm. All in all, I don't like thermal pads. :lol:

Hopefully Icandy will keep us updated when its been applied with compound of Icandy's choice.

Edit: You would think throttling or thermal shutdown would kick in, though.
 
Right been out, got some thermal compound. Not the best stuff they only had coolermaster in stock. Now, removing! How do I properly get this stuff off? I hear nail varnish remover, which Im out of, or 70% alchol of some kind. Quickly quickly, I need to go shopping again, tell me what I need lol.

Btw, no throttling at all.

Edit, just tried scraping it off, came off really fast, like sorta thin putty. Am I goot to go or does it need a good cleaning?
 
(Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, mineral spirits, or high-purity isopropyl alcohol.
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*rubs eyes* Im really sorry, I honestly dont know what they are at all. Should I goto a chemist or a supermarket to get it? lol
 
(Goof Off and some carburetor cleaners) acetone, mineral spirits, or high-purity isopropyl alcohol.
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*rubs eyes* Im really sorry, I honestly dont know what they are at all. Should I goto a chemist or a supermarket to get it? lol
Rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol). You'll find it in your grocery store's medicine section.
 
Grinny, I found my nail varnish remover before I went out the door, its full of Acitone yay. So now, to polish off the metal nicely and apply a bit of thermal paste the size of a grain of rice, if I remember correctly.
 
PC Pro magazine estimates that an e6300 will only be using 40w of electricity. which is about a third of Pentium D processors and AMD FX. I think it is definitely a sensor problem as it is unlikely a 40w processor will heat up to 90c.

We are used to fast processors requiring a lot of power and cooling but the core 2 duos may be amazingly frugal and naturally cool. There is some suggestion that many of them can be passively air cooled. Your e6300 is the slowest of the core 2 duo processors.
 
Ideally, it should be on the entire processor. I put the thermal paste [AS5 or Zalman] over the entire CPU, extremely thin layer. You should have a tight connection between the two. AS5 will cure to the HSF & CPU over a week or so. I actually prefer Zalman's new paste w/ the application brush because it has no curing time. I have had very good temps with this paste over the AS5. Let us know how it goes. Link below.

http://www.sharkacomputers.com/thercomad1.html
 
If the HS is cold, that is a bad sign.

The heat isn't being transfered to the HS.
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If the heat isn't going to the heat-sink, it has either too much paste or it is seated incorrectly. Regardless, it will clock down too keep from turning into a frag grenade (a joke, people). At those temperatures, the chip is fried. This is a misread without question, those readings are inaccurate.
 
If the HS is cold, that is a bad sign.

The heat isn't being transfered to the HS.
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If the heat isn't going to the heat-sink, it has either too much paste or it is seated incorrectly. Regardless, it will clock down too keep from turning into a frag grenade (a joke, people). At those temperatures, the chip is fried. This is a misread without question, those readings are inaccurate.

Well, temps will vary from MB to MB, so I agree.

Perhaps it isn't hitting 90C exactly, but it should be a warning sign, since the bios is reporting it. I agree the bios could mis-interept it, and would need an update to fix that problem.

I know a northwood core is different, but from an article I read, its thermal trip is somewhere of 92-98C. The test was done with the fan shut off on the HS with a full CPU load.

Just trying to help Icandy, based on if everything was operating correctly (bios included)
 
Well, I dont know, I give up!!!! After applying the thermal compound to the heatsinks base and quadrouple checking I seated it properly. I get temps of 45 degrees! Yay, but oh no, before long, they are at 71? I turned the computer off.

Whats worse, windows functionality is decreasing rapdily (not the usual joke), even Gigabytes own programs wont load, let alone even getting a net connection to start now. Damnit, is there a patch? lol. Im not even getting any error messages, just things not loading, Im wondering if its because I didnt get a chance ot finish updating windows, and the core affinity thingy is messing it up.

Im kinda clueless right now, I mean, I could send it back, claiming Intel shipped a bad product, after all, the heatsink does not cover the entire CPU. I found it so bizzar, CPU = square, heatink base = round, lol. That cant be helping! Depite a thin yet even layer of thermal goo. I tried, I really did, I cleaned with acetone, cleaned off the acetone, although, I didnt let the thermal paste dry out completely, it was getting very viscous though. Hmmm lol

What do I do? Im fragged out myself.

Edit: grinny, I didnt leave it on for very long this time. Raised a good 30 degrees in less than a minute though. Also the numbers were jumping around all over the place. I dont even know if Im reading this right myself, tired, need food, a hug, then the PC to be fixed.

Further edit: and I simply can NOT download these drivers. grrrrr What a nightmare.
 
8O . o O (oh man)

I suppose to be sure the most updated bios should be:

Version: F2
Date: 2006/06/30
Description: 1. Fix devices on x1 slots don't work

Are 775 HSF socket that bad for people to install?

Any 775 users able to give advice?
 
Yes thats the update I managed to get, it posted fine, same temperature problems.

Yes, please, anyone else who has gone through this problem!?
 
well IMHO i would make sure you put that HSF in right and reinstall windows and all drivers.

if you still have a problem send it all back.

and if your ever worried about your cpu temp again, take the back sidewall off your case and put your hand on the motherboard base (the part you screw it down to) look through the widow of the case and make sure your hand is directly under the cpu. if its hot right there, your probably overheating the cpu. if its cool or warm, then your ok.

thats the easiest way to check for high temps, toughing the heat sink is a good way too, but thats assuming your HSF is mounted and working correctly.

i have a water cooling set up and a broken temp sensor on my mobo. i check the temps by touch, both on the bottom of the mobo and by touching the water block on the cpu. my temps read 127*C but its nice and cool.
 
I presume making sure the HSF is in correctly, would mean, it does not move away when pulled? Doesn't move about in its place? Other than the comprehensive snap sound of it going into place, I wouldnt know.

Will try again, as soon as my 10 meg line finishes downloading this 10MB file at 6kb/s, yes Im having a bad day. lol

Hopefully I wont get electricuited feeling around 😳
 
I too recommend a clean install. You also might want to put all the updates you downloaded onto some disks so if you have internet problems you can still update your PC. Be prepared, always.
 
Have you set a shutdown temperature in your BIOS yet? Typically ASUS and ABIT (I think Gigabyte does too) have a default socket shutdown temp of 60 degrees C. This would be a valid way to check and make sure you are getting a real CPU number. Obviously if there is a shutdown and you are running at 90C... you would be triggering that pretty fast.

Also look up a guide to proper application of thermal compound, there are ways to do it that can help the heat conduct nicely.
 
Only last suggestion I have, even though I haven't done a 775 build, is to take the MB out of the case.

Yes.. it will be a pain to take it out, but after reading the manual, it does say to:

Fig.1
Please apply an even layer of CPU cooler paste
on the surface of the installed CPU.
Fig. 2
(Turning the push pin along the direction of arrow is to
remove the CPU cooler, on the contrary, is to install.)
Please note the direction of arrow sign on the male
push pin doesn't face inwards before installation. (This
instruction is only for Intel boxed fan)
Fig. 3
Place the CPU cooler atop the CPU and make
sure the push pins aim to the pin hole on the
motherboard.Pressing down the push pins
diagonally.
Fig. 4
Please make sure the Male and Female push pin
are joined closely. (for detailed installation
instructions, please refer to the CPU cooler installation
section of the user manual)
Fig. 5
Please check the back of motherboard after
installing. If the push pin is inserted as the picture,
the installation is complete.
Fig. 6
Finally, please attach the power connector of the
CPU cooler to the CPU fan header located on the
motherboard.

Other then that, I'm not sure what else to say to help be sure its installed/mounted correctly.
 
Well, I dont know, I give up!!!! After applying the thermal compound to the heatsinks base and quadrouple checking I seated it properly. I get temps of 45 degrees! Yay, but oh no, before long, they are at 71? I turned the computer off.

Whats worse, windows functionality is decreasing rapdily (not the usual joke), even Gigabytes own programs wont load, let alone even getting a net connection to start now. Damnit, is there a patch? lol. Im not even getting any error messages, just things not loading, Im wondering if its because I didnt get a chance ot finish updating windows, and the core affinity thingy is messing it up.

Im kinda clueless right now, I mean, I could send it back, claiming Intel shipped a bad product, after all, the heatsink does not cover the entire CPU. I found it so bizzar, CPU = square, heatink base = round, lol. That cant be helping! Depite a thin yet even layer of thermal goo. I tried, I really did, I cleaned with acetone, cleaned off the acetone, although, I didnt let the thermal paste dry out completely, it was getting very viscous though. Hmmm lol

What do I do? Im fragged out myself.

Edit: grinny, I didnt leave it on for very long this time. Raised a good 30 degrees in less than a minute though. Also the numbers were jumping around all over the place. I dont even know if Im reading this right myself, tired, need food, a hug, then the PC to be fixed.

Further edit: and I simply can NOT download these drivers. grrrrr What a nightmare.
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Ouch. Well, first off, the square part you are referring to is not the cpu, it is its heat-spreader. The die is actually much smaller and sits underneath it, roughly in the middle. So round / square issue is, really, not an issue.

In terms of degrading performace over time - that could be caused by increasing temperatures over time. Could be. As someone mentioned, assuming the temperature monitor is working correctly.

How did you apply the compound. Give this a read. It was something you said that made me think you didn't quite do it the most optimal way. The article should also give you an idea of how to prepare the surfaces.

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

It is specific to arctic silver, but the general idea should still apply.

Good luck on your quest.
 
Well I've been building computers for some time now and the number one problem people have with the new cpu's is improper fan installation. Open the computer (while it is off) and give the fan a gentle tug. If it gives way at all it isn't installed properly one of your anchors isn't connected. You'll need to take the fan off and put it back on making sure all the anchors are in tight. There shouldn't be any need to recompound the fan as intel uses compound that allows multiple removals without degrading.
 
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