Question Need help and guidance on my first PC build i5-14600K

[GentleX]

Hey, so I had a chance to check what I did with the i5-14600K in the bios of the MSI Pro Z790-A WIFI...

Here's the link to make it easy. Tuning a 14600K on a MSI Pro Z790-A

I flashed the bios without putting the CPU in with the Flash usb feature on the io of that MSI board, first. Easy, and the video is available on the MSI site. Get everything up and running first on whatever the lowest settings offered when you're posting... Stock Cooler or Intel Defualts, not sure what it is with the new bios updates. Get all of your stuff on and then Cinebench23 it while watching your HWMonitor. The temps shouldn't get into the 90C's, with your cooler, but if they do just watch it. This is your baseline and it will probably surprise you. If you see 100C on any core during any test, shut it down immediately!

Once you have everything ready, restart and go back into the bios, I then chose water cooler option after A LOT of tinkering. Then follow the directions in the link above. Just changing what he has pictured at the top is enough, the comments and how the thread develops sort of confuses what he did a little. I was able to get my undervolt to Mode 5 too on the CPU Lite settings after manually setting the P and E cores higher as pictured in that link. I think I wound up with setting the p cores at 55 and the e cores at 44. That's with the Water Cooler setting, (there's a cooler choice in the Bios, but it escapes me what it's called...( just scroll thru the bios settings and you'll find it.) which optimizes everything, and then the undervolting to get the temps down while keeping the performance up.

With those simple changes, it ran cooler and faster than any of the stock settings. My son has been using it without issue for about a month since I did the most recent Bios update and did these simple changes. My Cinebench23 was 25xxx. And that was while running antivirus and a couple other startup programs in the background. *Edit* The HWMonitor showed it was pinned at 5.49Ghz on the P-Cores and 4.39Ghz on the E-Cores while running Cinebench 23, with temps only into the very low 80C's.

Good luck. Looking forward to see how yours turns out.

I find this on anandtech. They said that, intel 13th/14th gen are full of instability issues.

Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

As if we needed any more evidence that these Intel furnace monstrosities are being pushed beyond their limit just to win performance benchmarks. No wonder even 480mm rads or 1.5kg coolers aren't enough for these solar flares. These parts are being redlined because they're horrifically inferior...

forums.anandtech.com

 

[Lafong]

"furnace monstrosities…………….solar flares…………….horrifically inferior………..absolutely incompetent".

What comes to your mind when you see terminology like the above?

Have you done any further digging into that issue?

Are you prone to buyer's remorse?

 

[GentleX]

"furnace monstrosities…………….solar flares…………….horrifically inferior………..absolutely incompetent".

What comes to your mind when you see terminology like the above?

Have you done any further digging into that issue?

Are you prone to buyer's remorse?

I'm a noob when it comes to hardware. Could you suggest a CPU (Intel)? Should I avoid the 13th/14th gen of any Intel i5, i7, i9, and so on?

 

[Lafong]

I'm a noob when it comes to hardware. Could you suggest a CPU (Intel)? Should I avoid the 13th/14th gen of any Intel i5, i7, i9, and so on?

It sounds like you are quite anxious about the issue.

For that reason alone, I'd suggest you don't buy 13th/14th gen Intel. Justifiably or not.

Why purchase anxiety?

 

[GentleX]

It sounds like you are quite anxious about the issue.

For that reason alone, I'd suggest you don't buy 13th/14th gen Intel. Justifiably or not.

Why purchase anxiety?

I appreciate your care for my situation. I admire the i5-14600K, but I’ve just seen some negative reviews. I just need your opinion: does it still matter? Has Intel fixed it? Do I really need to be anxious about it?

 

[Lafong]

I appreciate your care for my situation. I admire the i5-14600K, but I’ve just seen some negative reviews. I just need your opinion: does it still matter? Has Intel fixed it? Do I really need to be anxious about it?

It still matters if it worries you....regardless of your reasons.

You can easily find all sorts of posts that are skeptical about Intel fixing anything.

Few people have much control over what makes them anxious, without medication.

If you buy it and have a bad experience, do you say "so what", buy something else, and forget about your "mistake" in 10 minutes?

Or would you flagellate yourself endlessly for not listening to those who said "avoid Intel 13/14 gen"?

I have no idea how you would react, but you should have a very good idea.

How much does it cost you to avoid the situation? What is the downside of avoiding the situation?

Maybe your admiration trumps other considerations. If so, buy it.

 

[GentleX]

It still matters if it worries you....regardless of your reasons.

You can easily find all sorts of posts that are skeptical about Intel fixing anything.

Few people have much control over what makes them anxious, without medication.

If you buy it and have a bad experience, do you say "so what", buy something else, and forget about your "mistake" in 10 minutes?

Or would you flagellate yourself endlessly for not listening to those who said "avoid Intel 13/14 gen"?

I have no idea how you would react, but you should have a very good idea.

How much does it cost you to avoid the situation? What is the downside of avoiding the situation?

Maybe your admiration trumps other considerations. If so, buy it.

Which would be better for me? Just speak out man. I appreciate you anyway. Should i stick with 14600K or no? Just give me a solid advice kindly.

 

[Lafong]

Which would be better for me? Just speak out man. I appreciate you anyway. Should i stick with 14600K or no? Just give me a solid advice kindly.

I won't do that.

One guy says yes; next guy says no.

Why would you choose one opinion over another?

Which CPU you choose could easily be the least of your worries.

Somebody may tell you shortly to do X, Y, or Z. You can then listen to them if you like.

 

[GentleX]

I won't do that.

One guy says yes; next guy says no.

Why would you choose one opinion over another?

Somebody may tell you shortly to do X, Y, or Z. You can then listen to them if you like.

I'm sorry if I said anything wrong to you.

 

[Lafong]

I'm sorry if I said anything wrong to you.

You have a very vivid imagination.