Question Need help to upgrade an old pc

[Berto44]

Hello everyone.
First of all, sorry if my English is bad but I need your help.

Basically I have an old PC, and while waiting to be able to buy a new one I would like to upgrade the Ram a little bit and change the graphics card of the PC I have.

My current config:
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme - version 1
CPU: i7 4820k
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 1600MHz
GPU: GTX 1060 3GB
PSU: Corsair Gold version 850W modular

As a reminder motherboard and Ram in DDR3

For information, I play and stream a little, mainly simulation games that I don't think are too demanding (no flight simu lol), mostly mmo, FPS very rarely.

So my wish is to go to 32GB with a higher frequency, I saw on the net that it had frequencies of 1866MHz (not found above).
I also saw a GPU, MSI GeForce RTX 3050 Ventus 2X XS 8GB OC.
But the problem is that I don't know if the new components will be compatible with the rest of my config.
Otherwise if you have links or tips where I could get the new Ram and new GPU I'm interested (the GPU I saw on sale on Amazon)
But my biggest doubt is in the Ram, because the Ram that I found is marked as XMP 1.3, I saw that my motherboard supports XMP but does it support 1.3, I admit to being lost.

Thank you everyone in advance for any information you can give me 😉

 

[beyondlogic]

Hello everyone.
First of all, sorry if my English is bad but I need your help.

Basically I have an old PC, and while waiting to be able to buy a new one I would like to upgrade the Ram a little bit and change the graphics card of the PC I have.

My current config:
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme - version 1
CPU: i7 4820k
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB 1600MHz
GPU: GTX 1060 3GB
PSU: Corsair Gold version 850W modular

As a reminder motherboard and Ram in DDR3

For information, I play and stream a little, mainly simulation games that I don't think are too demanding (no flight simu lol), mostly mmo, FPS very rarely.

So my wish is to go to 32GB with a higher frequency, I saw on the net that it had frequencies of 1866MHz (not found above).
I also saw a GPU, MSI GeForce RTX 3050 Ventus 2X XS 8GB OC.
But the problem is that I don't know if the new components will be compatible with the rest of my config.
Otherwise if you have links or tips where I could get the new Ram and new GPU I'm interested (the GPU I saw on sale on Amazon)
But my biggest doubt is in the Ram, because the Ram that I found is marked as XMP 1.3, I saw that my motherboard supports XMP but does it support 1.3, I admit to being lost.

Thank you everyone in advance for any information you can give me 😉

Ram should be bought as a single kit of 4 sticks so

8+8+8+8.

Best upgrade would be a GPU

2060 super or 2070 super on used market would be a big jump

Or 4070.

On amds side consider

6700xt
6800 xt

 

[Berto44]

Thanks for your help

The Ram kit of 4 sticks I didn't find, or the ones I found were not good because the PC3 was not good (example: PC3-15000 which I can normally equip on my motherbord and those proposed are PC3-14900 and things like that)
However, I found kits of 2 sticks of 8+8 and 8+8, but as you say is not good.
For the GPU I admit that for my old config I prefer Intel because with the stream the AMD encoder (x264) is not too terrible (I'm talking about the information I got on the internet and some streamers to.
So, pass from 1600MHz to 1866MHz really bring anything or not?
Because if it don't bring anything I leave it at 1600MHz since I can easily find sticks at 1600MHz

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I would install another identical ram kit to what you have now just to double the capacity. It will make it faster by allowing you to take advantage of quad channel. Replacing 1600 ram for 1866 is not going to make a noticable difference at all.

3050 is poor value, it's a fairly slow card for the cost. The stretch to a regular 3060 is worth it, also supports NVENC encoder which is quite good.

Rx6600xt is a good value card too, faster than 3060 for a good bit less money, but the encoder support for streaming will not be as good

 

[geofelt]

You can upgrade to any modern gpu.
Your psu is plenty strong.
Here is tom's gpu hierarchy chart which depicts the general capabilities of graphics cards.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Rtx 3050 is an upgrade, but I advise upgrading much stronger.
If you don't see magical results you may be disappointed.
Perhaps to 4060 class.
If you are familiar with nvidia, you will be more comfortable sticking with nvidia.
Nothing wrong with amd, it is just a bit different.

On ram, one upgrade might be another 2 x 8gb ddr3 ram kit.
Look for one that is as close as possible in specs to your current kit.
I would not worry about xmp.
XMP is a set of settings embedded in the ram sticks that makes the kit work at advertised speeds.
With a mismatched kit, you are going to need to specify the ram settings (speed, voltage, timings) in the bios itself.
Ram will run at lower than the advertised speed.

 

[Berto44]

I would install another identical ram kit to what you have now just to double the capacity. It will make it faster by allowing you to take advantage of quad channel. Replacing 1600 ram for 1866 is not going to make a noticable difference at all.

3050 is poor value, it's a fairly slow card for the cost. The stretch to a regular 3060 is worth it, also supports NVENC encoder which is quite good.

Rx6600xt is a good value card too, faster than 3060 for a good bit less money, but the encoder support for streaming will not be as good

Ok, so i will check that and try to find the best compromise.

One more thing.
I just checked right now and I saw that the capacity of my Ram is 12GB While I have 16GB installed in the pc.
is there a problem with the Ram or the motherboard ?

 

[Berto44]

You can upgrade to any modern gpu.
Your psu is plenty strong.
Here is tom's gpu hierarchy chart which depicts the general capabilities of graphics cards.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
Rtx 3050 is an upgrade, but I advise upgrading much stronger.
If you don't see magical results you may be disappointed.
Perhaps to 4060 class.
If you are familiar with nvidia, you will be more comfortable sticking with nvidia.
Nothing wrong with amd, it is just a bit different.

On ram, one upgrade might be another 2 x 8gb ddr3 ram kit.
Look for one that is as close as possible in specs to your current kit.
I would not worry about xmp.
XMP is a set of settings embedded in the ram sticks that makes the kit work at advertised speeds.
With a mismatched kit, you are going to need to specify the ram settings (speed, voltage, timings) in the bios itself.
Ram will run at lower than the advertised speed.

yes, I think I'll stay on nvidia, only because of nvenc
So, instead of taking the 3050, switching to a 4060 is probably better, is that what you say?
Because I admit that I don't want to spend a lot of money since surely within a year or two I would build a complete new PC.

For the ram, ok, i will rest with the same thing I have, or buy a pack of 4 sticks 8+8+8+8 but in 1600MHz as I have in the moment.

 

[geofelt]

Run cpu-Z.
The spd tabs will identify the make/model of each ram stick that you actually have.

12gb is strange and needs an explanation.

 

[Berto44]

Run cpu-Z.
The spd tabs will identify the make/model of each ram stick that you actually have.

12gb is strange and needs an explanation.

ok, I go see that, thanks

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

So, instead of taking the 3050, switching to a 4060 is probably better, is that what you say?
Because I admit that I don't want to spend a lot of money since surely within a year or two I would build a complete new PC.

The point being, that a stronger card will be held back by your CPU. Your CPU was great back in the day, but loses out on single core performance a little, which can really help gaming and feed a stronger GPU with enough pre-rendered frames and fast enough. So anything stronger will just be sitting there not breaking a sweat as your CPU maxes out. Your GPU will be underutilized. So it's kinda wasted money to spend really big on the GPU.

 

[Berto44]

The point being, that a stronger card will be held back by your CPU. Your CPU was great back in the day, but loses out on single core performance a little, which can really help gaming and feed a stronger GPU with enough pre-rendered frames and fast enough. So anything stronger will just be sitting there not breaking a sweat as your CPU maxes out. Your GPU will be underutilized. So it's kinda wasted money to spend really big on the GPU.

So the best thing to do is buy a 3050 and wait to be able to change to a new pc ?