[SOLVED] Need help with best $2000/high end gaming PC parts list

[Zombie_hunter99]

Hi Everyone, I need someone to help me build a parts list. My budget is about 2000 dollars. I was planning on getting a GTX 1080 TI, but I don't know what model to get and what brand. I was deciding between an Intel i7 9700K or i9 9900K. Which one is better for gaming? Should a get a AMD Ryzen processor instead or go with Intel? Also, I want to have a motherboard that has drivers for Windows 7 and Windows 8,1 because I prefer Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 over Windows 10. I don't know what type, brand or model to get that would be compatible with my processor of choice and Windows 7 or Windows 8.1. For this build I want a 2 TB m.2 or NVME SSD. I need 16 GB of DDR4 Ram. I plant on using this computer for playing video games, recording and maybe streaming my game play, watching videos, playing music, doing schoolwork, browsing the internet, and doing some video editing. I want to be able to run all of the latest and past games in 1080P and a solid 60 FPS at the max graphics settings. I plan on getting a 144 HZ or 4K monitor and maybe even a VR headset in the future and I want to be ready. Thank you, hope you can help me and happy holidays.

 

[BringerOfTea]

out of luck if you want latest Intel, only win 10 support. It might work or you may have major issues.

WHy 8.1? that abomination..

- so a I9700K will be suitable for your use.
- Get a decent motherboard, maybe a ASUS Maximus one.
- Some atleast 3000 mhz ram
- A capable cpu cooler
- Perhaps a 1080 Ti MSI Gaming, Dont matter if Z or X... just a difference in the factory overclock.
- A 650watt psu, quality unit.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

out of luck if you want latest Intel, only win 10 support. It might work or you may have major issues.

WHy 8.1? that abomination..

- so a I9700K will be suitable for your use.
- Get a decent motherboard, maybe a ASUS Maximus one.
- Some atleast 3000 mhz ram
- A capable cpu cooler
- Perhaps a 1080 Ti MSI Gaming, Dont matter if Z or X... just a difference in the factory overclock.
- A 650watt psu, quality unit.

Thank you for your quick reply. I read online that people have used 7th, 8th, and 9th generation Intel processors on Windows 7 just fine. Some guy also madeapatch so that you can still get every updates on computers running 7th, 8th, and 9th processors because Microsoft blocks non critical update to computers with those processors. do you have a recombination of what power supply, motherboard and RAM to get?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

I will leave the windows part to you :

Long term 1080p 144hz gaming rig :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($529.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($272.52 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: HP - EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($174.99 @ Newegg Business)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda Compute 4 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB CERBERUS Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian-Li - LANCOOL ONE DIGITAL ATX Mid Tower Case ($73.11 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Cooler Master - MasterFan MF120R ARGB 59 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $1994.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-19 05:34 EST-0500

Aio in the top, stock fans in the front, ARGB fan in the rear exhaust.

 

[BringerOfTea]

you'd pair the 1070ti with a i9 9900k?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

for 1080p 144hz? y not? OP asked for a long term 1080p 144hz rig.

 

[jankerson]

out of luck if you want latest Intel, only win 10 support. It might work or you may have major issues.

WHy 8.1? that abomination..

- so a I9700K will be suitable for your use.
- Get a decent motherboard, maybe a ASUS Maximus one.
- Some atleast 3000 mhz ram
- A capable cpu cooler
- Perhaps a 1080 Ti MSI Gaming, Dont matter if Z or X... just a difference in the factory overclock.
- A 650watt psu, quality unit.

Thank you for your quick reply. I read online that people have used 7th, 8th, and 9th generation Intel processors on Windows 7 just fine. Some guy also madeapatch so that you can still get every updates on computers running 7th, 8th, and 9th processors because Microsoft blocks non critical update to computers with those processors. do you have a recombination of what power supply, motherboard and RAM to get?

You have been misinformed.

You need Windows 10 64 bit if you want to have full support of all the new technologies.

Win 7 is getting close to EOL.
Win 8 is well... I won't even get into that....

Yeah sure there are people who still use Windows 2000 and XP too, but nobody ever said it was smart.

 

[g-unit1111]

you'd pair the 1070ti with a i9 9900k?

I wouldn't even bother with the 9900K right now, it's getting a reputation as being the Intel equivalent of the FX-9590 and that's not a good thing.

I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - A80 128 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($235.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card ($775.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.73 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2055.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-19 12:42 EST-0500

 

[jankerson]

you'd pair the 1070ti with a i9 9900k?

I wouldn't even bother with the 9900K right now, it's getting a reputation as being the Intel equivalent of the FX-9590 and that's not a good thing.

I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - A80 128 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($131.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($235.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card ($775.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.73 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2055.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-19 12:42 EST-0500

I think it's more of a Z390 and BIOS issue that seems to be making the CPU's run hotter than they really should be from what I have seen.

Nothing wrong with the CPU.

I am running mine on a Z370 Board and have none of the issues that people are seeing, although I did have to step back to the earlier BIOS on my AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 do to insane VCORE. Gigabyte is aware of the BIOS issues as are the other MB makers I believe. Using the F7 Bios.

 

[g-unit1111]

I think it's more of a Z390 and BIOS issue that seems to be making the CPU's run hotter than they really should be from what I have seen.

Nothing wrong with the CPU.

I am running mine on a Z370 Board and have none of the issues that people are seeing, although I did have to step back to the earlier BIOS on my AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 do to insane VCORE. Gigabyte is aware of the BIOS issues as are the other MB makers I believe. Using the F7 Bios.

Yeah that was the same issue that the 9590 was facing was the board support and that some boards did not work as well as others did and that other chipsets were able to handle it better than others. I think if you know about motherboard compatibility going in then you should be fine. But when you don't know that, that's where you can run into trouble. Like I wouldn't pair the 9900K with a $130 MSI Tomahawk, that just wouldn't make sense and would end very badly.

 

[SgtScream]

With that kind of budget, you should get a 1440p GSYNC IPS panel. The performance difference in gaming between the 8700k and the 9900k doesn't justify the price, especially when you have to spend a great deal extra on cooling for the i9. The i7 8700k will beat out the i7 9700k in multi-threaded workloads and will allow for an overall smother gaming/streaming experience. The included hyper threading will out perform in content creation.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 Quad Lumi 49 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z390 Taichi ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($225.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 2 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($297.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC WHITE Video Card ($749.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design - FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120mm Fan ($6.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1969.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-19 14:53 EST-0500

 

[jankerson]

I think it's more of a Z390 and BIOS issue that seems to be making the CPU's run hotter than they really should be from what I have seen.

Nothing wrong with the CPU.

I am running mine on a Z370 Board and have none of the issues that people are seeing, although I did have to step back to the earlier BIOS on my AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 do to insane VCORE. Gigabyte is aware of the BIOS issues as are the other MB makers I believe. Using the F7 Bios.

Yeah that was the same issue that the 9590 was facing was the board support and that some boards did not work as well as others did and that other chipsets were able to handle it better than others. I think if you know about motherboard compatibility going in then you should be fine. But when you don't know that, that's where you can run into trouble. Like I wouldn't pair the 9900K with a $130 MSI Tomahawk, that just wouldn't make sense and would end very badly.

Oh yeah, cheap MB's don't have the VRMs that the higher end boards do for sure.

Hopefully they can get the bios issues worked out.

 

[g-unit1111]

Oh yeah, cheap MB's don't have the VRMs that the higher end boards do for sure.

Hopefully they can get the bios issues worked out.

I think that was the biggest problem with the 9590 was that they never got the BIOS problems worked out (and I don't think they really cared either). It was a factory overclocked CPU on top of a factory overclocked CPU on top of an old BIOS and poor VRMs that couldn't handle the new chip. The 9900K shouldn't be compared to the 9590 but I think time will tell on that one.

 

[jankerson]

Oh yeah, cheap MB's don't have the VRMs that the higher end boards do for sure.

Hopefully they can get the bios issues worked out.

I think that was the biggest problem with the 9590 was that they never got the BIOS problems worked out (and I don't think they really cared either). It was a factory overclocked CPU on top of a factory overclocked CPU on top of an old BIOS and poor VRMs that couldn't handle the new chip. The 9900K shouldn't be compared to the 9590 but I think time will tell on that one.

Yeah...

I had updated the BIOS to the supposed 9900K bios F10 and the VCORE went crazy high even with the 8086K in there.

Put the 9900K in and it was completely insane (1.5V MCE) so I went back to the F7 Bios and everything was fine ever since.

Definite screwup on the BIOS for sure.

 

[LordVile]

Why windows 7/8? They’re pretty much dead, you don’t get support for new technologies and is generally less secure.

Personally for 2K id go for something around this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jvGMdX

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

Why windows 7/8? They’re pretty much dead, you don’t get support for new technologies and is generally less secure.

Personally for 2K id go for something around this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jvGMdX

Every modern game and most modern software are compatible with Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. Also, A lot of modern software still works with Windows XP and Vista. I can still get support new technologies on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1. The new Nvidia 20 series of graphics have drivers for Windows 7. There are also a lot of motherboards that still have drivers for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

Would I have to re-install Windows if I get a new NVME or m.2 SSD? I was planning on cloning my old SATA SSD from my old computer to my new m.2 or NVME SSD on the new computer.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The 9700k is OK for gaming, but since you are also gonna do some video editing, the 9900k is the best bet.

8700k/8086k gives better performance than the 9700k Cuz of the extra threads in video editing.

I also dunno why ppl think it crazy to pair the 9900k with 1070ti for 1080p 144hz. The 9900k won't bottleneck the 1070ti upto 165hz in 1080p so what's the issue?

The 1070 is more than enough for 1080p 144hz now. So 1070ti will be a long term investment. Of course you can go with the even more overkill 2080, but then I can't fit in a 9900k with a good mobo like the maximus hero I chose.

Regarding windows installation :

It's always better to do a fresh install. Less clutter and the system will be fast like a new one. I am guessing u already have a Microsoft account linked with your current copy of windows? If so it's just a matter of signing in.

 

[BringerOfTea]

Dude also mentioned 4K.... the 1070 does not do this greatly...

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

The 9700k is OK for gaming, but since you are also gonna do some video editing, the 9900k is the best bet.

8700k/8086k gives better performance than the 9700k Cuz of the extra threads in video editing.

I also dunno why ppl think it crazy to pair the 9900k with 1070ti for 1080p 144hz. The 9900k won't bottleneck the 1070ti upto 165hz in 1080p so what's the issue?

The 1070 is more than enough for 1080p 144hz now. So 1070ti will be a long term investment. Of course you can go with the even more overkill 2080, but then I can't fit in a 9900k with a good mobo like the maximus hero I chose.

Regarding windows installation :

It's always better to do a fresh install. Less clutter and the system will be fast like a new one. I am guessing u already have a Microsoft account linked with your current copy of windows? If so it's just a matter of signing in.

Will the extra threads in the 8700K affect gaming performance because that is what I care about the most? I rather not do a fresh install because I don't want to spend hours re-installing windows, re-installing of my applications, and changing settings. My computer will still run very fast, like a new computer, even with all of the applications that I have installed on my computer and clutter because of my SSD. Building the computer is going to take me a few hours already. Yes I do have Microsoft account linked my Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 installation.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

Here is the build that I have come up with so far: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/32hNFt
I still need to add the SSD and hard drive.

 

[BringerOfTea]

need a Z370 motherboard!

and faster ram.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

need a Z370 motherboard!

and faster ram.

Why do I need a Z370 motherboard? That motherboard will suit my needs and meet my requirements just fine. That RAM is pretty fast, much faster than the memory in my current rig.

 

[madmatt30]

You need to go back to the drawing board here, for one that is completely incompatible, even if it wasn't you wouldn't be running a $400 8 core Intel on a $60 board, the ego 212 is nowhere near enough to cool it, the case is poor.

Decide if you want 1080p 144htz or 4k first of all.
It has a massive bearing on what would be recommended.

For 1080p 60htz you don't need to spend close to 2k.

For 144htz an Intel would be best choice, for 4k you'd go ryzen to save money & buy the best gpu possible.

& you will be using Windows 10 in either case unless you want to make an awful amount of work for yourself getting an older os running.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

You need to go back to the drawing board here, for one that is completely incompatible, even if it wasn't you wouldn't be running a $400 8 core Intel on a $60 board, the ego 212 is nowhere near enough to cool it, the case is poor.

Decide if you want 1080p 144htz or 4k first of all.
It has a massive bearing on what would be recommended.

For 1080p 60htz you don't need to spend close to 2k.

For 144htz an Intel would be best choice, for 4k you'd go ryzen to save money & buy the best gpu possible.

& you will be using Windows 10 in either case unless you want to make an awful amount of work for yourself getting an older os running.

Whats wrong with the case? Whats wrong my motherboard it is compatible with my CPU and RAM? Why is Ryzen better for 4K? What CPU cooler would you recommend?