[SOLVED] Need help with best $2000/high end gaming PC parts list

[Zombie_hunter99]

Hi Everyone, I need someone to help me build a parts list. My budget is about 2000 dollars. I was planning on getting a GTX 1080 TI, but I don't know what model to get and what brand. I was deciding between an Intel i7 9700K or i9 9900K. Which one is better for gaming? Should a get a AMD Ryzen processor instead or go with Intel? Also, I want to have a motherboard that has drivers for Windows 7 and Windows 8,1 because I prefer Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 over Windows 10. I don't know what type, brand or model to get that would be compatible with my processor of choice and Windows 7 or Windows 8.1. For this build I want a 2 TB m.2 or NVME SSD. I need 16 GB of DDR4 Ram. I plant on using this computer for playing video games, recording and maybe streaming my game play, watching videos, playing music, doing schoolwork, browsing the internet, and doing some video editing. I want to be able to run all of the latest and past games in 1080P and a solid 60 FPS at the max graphics settings. I plan on getting a 144 HZ or 4K monitor and maybe even a VR headset in the future and I want to be ready. Thank you, hope you can help me and happy holidays.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

^^ sound advice there

 

[Lucky_SLS]

4k 60hz monitors are the ones mortal, normal ppl can buy. 4k 144hz screens start at 2000 usd. So I think it's safe to say that it's out of the question.

For a 60hz screen, it's enough if your cpu can give 60fps in a game engine which the ryzen can. But ryzen has 8c/16t in its 2700X for half the cost of the 9900k. Now do you get why ryzen is a win win in 4k?

The X470 is also about 50 bucks cheaper than the maximus hero. So that 300 bucks can go for a better gpu for 4k.

Ppl already discussed about mobo vrm, cooling, overclocking capabilities of the mobo with a 9900k in this thread. Read the replies again to understand them.

The coolermaster ml360R aio I suggested is one of the best performing aio now. Enough to cool the 9900k.

 

[BringerOfTea]

For one you could use the 98 dollars for a better MB, a Z390 one... as the MICRO MB you've chosen is cheap as frigg and will not support 9th generation cpus without a bios update.

 

[madmatt30]

Also when it comes to gpu's youre between a rock & a hard place , do you take a 1070ti at $400 ,step up another $100 for a 1080 or 2070 for around 15% more performance , or double the price for a 1080ti or rtx 2080 for around 40% more improvement - arguably worth it if you want to run 4k in the near future??

Unfortunately nvidia have the market sewn up in the higher end segment & only the 1070ti & 1080/2070 are reasonable value at present.

The only REAL 4k card is the 2080ti which is well over $1000.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

For one you could use the 98 dollars for a better MB, a Z390 one... as the MICRO MB you've chosen is cheap as frigg and will not support 9th generation cpus without a bios update.

Whats wrong with updating the bios on that motherboard? That will be very easy to do and should only take a few minutes.

 

[BringerOfTea]

wont post with that CPU therefore hard to do...

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

Also when it comes to gpu's youre between a rock & a hard place , do you take a 1070ti at $400 ,step up another $100 for a 1080 or 2070 for around 15% more performance , or double the price for a 1080ti or rtx 2080 for around 40% more improvement - arguably worth it if you want to run 4k in the near future??

Unfortunately nvidia have the market sewn up in the higher end segment & only the 1070ti & 1080/2070 are reasonable value at present.

The only REAL 4k card is the 2080ti which is well over $1000.

I am more interested in running 144 hz than 4k. The 1080 TI's that I looked at were over 1000 dollars.I don't want to spend that much on a graphics card. I think the 1080 will suffice because I can get one for around the same price as a 1070 TI and the performance is pretty close to that of a 1080 TI.

 

[BringerOfTea]

and a micro MB will look wonky also in a midi tower

 

[madmatt30]

For one you could use the 98 dollars for a better MB, a Z390 one... as the MICRO MB you've chosen is cheap as frigg and will not support 9th generation cpus without a bios update.

Whats wrong with updating the bios on that motherboard? That will be very easy to do and should only take a few minutes.

Already been said, the thermals & power draw on these new chips are huge compared to what intel pushed out in the past.

For anything past a locked intel 6 core cpu you absolutely NEED a quality board with a good vrm setup & a very good cooler.
Something like

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($409.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $679.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-20 04:28 EST-0500

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[BringerOfTea]

nah from the 1080 and to the 1080 TI there is about a 30 ish performance increase... give or take.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

For one you could use the 98 dollars for a better MB, a Z390 one... as the MICRO MB you've chosen is cheap as frigg and will not support 9th generation cpus without a bios update.

Whats wrong with updating the bios on that motherboard? That will be very easy to do and should only take a few minutes.

Already been said, the thermals & power draw on these new chips are huge compared to what intel pushed out in the past.

For anything past a locked intel 6 core cpu you absolutely NEED a quality board with a good vrm setup & a very good cooler.
Something like

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($409.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $679.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-20 04:28 EST-0500

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What is VRM?

 

[BringerOfTea]

The things that gives power to the CPU... Or help requlate power on the motherboard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_regulator_module

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

The things that gives power to the CPU... Or help requlate power on the motherboard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_regulator_module

How do you figure out if a motherboard has a good VRM?

 

[BringerOfTea]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

According to this link https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-H310M-E/HelpDesk_CPU/
That motherboard is compatible with that the i7 9700K. It is listed in the CPU Compatibility table.

 

[LordVile]

Having drivers doesn’t mean they work optimally or will continue having them in say 5 years plus intel and AMD have no guarantees with anything before W10

 

[BringerOfTea]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

According to this link https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-H310M-E/HelpDesk_CPU/
That motherboard is compatible with that the i7 9700K. It is listed in the CPU Compatibility table.

if it ships with the 0803 version of the BIOS yeah... it should work... how you gonna check that?

 

[madmatt30]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

According to this link https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-H310M-E/HelpDesk_CPU/
That motherboard is compatible with that the i7 9700K. It is listed in the CPU Compatibility table.

needs bios updating,poor vrm setup,3+1 phase no heatsinks, m2 nvme limited to 2x speeds.

Absolutely awful choice of board for anything past an i5 8400 & has no place at all in a high end $2000 build.

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

According to this link https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-H310M-E/HelpDesk_CPU/
That motherboard is compatible with that the i7 9700K. It is listed in the CPU Compatibility table.

needs bios updating,poor vrm setup,3+1 phase no heatsinks, m2 nvme limited to 2x speeds.

Absolutely awful choice of board for anything past an i5 8400 & has no place at all in a high end $2000 build.

What happens if the board has a bad VRM setup? How would that affect the processor? Where did you see the board was limited to to 2x speeds for the M.2/NVME?

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

According to this link https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-H310M-E/HelpDesk_CPU/
That motherboard is compatible with that the i7 9700K. It is listed in the CPU Compatibility table.

needs bios updating,poor vrm setup,3+1 phase no heatsinks, m2 nvme limited to 2x speeds.

Absolutely awful choice of board for anything past an i5 8400 & has no place at all in a high end $2000 build.

What happens if the board has a bad VRM setup? How would that affect the processor? Where did you see the board was limited to to 2x speeds for the M.2/NVME?

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

usually not the cheaper kind therefor I recommended something like the asus Maximus series...
or the one MaddMatt has in his CPU, MB , COOLER recommendation

What is a CPU cooler that you would recommend for the i7 9700K?

 

[LordVile]

NZXT Kraken X62

The biggest Noctua

Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4

 

[BringerOfTea]

I'm picturing MadMatts avatar, if you insist on getting a cheap motherboard. Do not come here complaining about it not posting, instability and BSODS.
Take some advice into serious consideration, as some of us put effort into guiding you. And Matt usually is quite spot on.

 

[SgtScream]

The 9700k is OK for gaming, but since you are also gonna do some video editing, the 9900k is the best bet.

8700k/8086k gives better performance than the 9700k Cuz of the extra threads in video editing.

I also dunno why ppl think it crazy to pair the 9900k with 1070ti for 1080p 144hz. The 9900k won't bottleneck the 1070ti upto 165hz in 1080p so what's the issue?

The 1070 is more than enough for 1080p 144hz now. So 1070ti will be a long term investment. Of course you can go with the even more overkill 2080, but then I can't fit in a 9900k with a good mobo like the maximus hero I chose.

Regarding windows installation :

It's always better to do a fresh install. Less clutter and the system will be fast like a new one. I am guessing u already have a Microsoft account linked with your current copy of windows? If so it's just a matter of signing in.

Will the extra threads in the 8700K affect gaming performance because that is what I care about the most? I rather not do a fresh install because I don't want to spend hours re-installing windows, re-installing of my applications, and changing settings. My computer will still run very fast, like a new computer, even with all of the applications that I have installed on my computer and clutter because of my SSD. Building the computer is going to take me a few hours already. Yes I do have Microsoft account linked my Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 installation.

Black OPS IIII will take a gtx 1080 at least to push 1080p 144hz very high detail. Games make use of hyper-threading and so will your video editing software. You're likely going to run into complications, where you'll find the need to reinstall windows anyways. It's better to reinstall with the latest operating system to ensure you're running optimally on a "clean slate". If performance is what you're after wouldn't you want the piece off mind knowing there isn't any hardware/driver remnants (tied to your previous hardware) still on your hard drive, that could cause performance/stability issues?

 

[Zombie_hunter99]

NZXT Kraken X62

The biggest Noctua

Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4

Thank you, I will get the Be quiet Dark Rock Pro 4.