Need help with FX-8320 cooling.

[Mumaboss]

Hello everybody.
Currently I've got an FX-8320 @ 3.5GHz with stock cooler. And its overheating when I play games like GTA V or BF4 and I get low fps on those games, or even like cpu heavy games like Minecraft have low fps. My guess is either its bad cpu ( malfunctioning ) or its thermal throttling since cpu reaches up to 80 C which is pretty enough for melting the cpu.
So I'm going to get a new cooler and its going to be Alphacool Eisberg 120 which can fit my case ( TT- Commander MS-I ).
So I wonder can I overclock with that cooler and is it good?

 

[soldier5637]

whats your budget first off? There may be a better solution.

 

[Mumaboss]

About 120$

 

[RobCrezz]

Do you care about looks?
If so, then one of the AIOs:
H105/ H100i GTX/ Kracken X61

If not, then go for a high end air cooler:
Phanteks TC14-PE
Noctua D-15

 

[soldier5637]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032&cm_re=corsair_water-_-35-181-032-_-Product
Thats what I would do. ANd you could overclock your CPU with that as well. The FX line up is literally made to be over clocked.

 

[Mumaboss]

But could H100i fit my case? Its Thermaltake Commander MS-I

 

[geofelt]

Use CPU-Z to see if your cpu is downclocking; I suspect not.

A aftermarket cooler will help with noise and temperatures.
What is your motherboard? Some are not suitable for overclocking a FX-8xxx.

What is your case? Liquid coolers have issues mounting in a case.
Normally, a simple tower type cooler like a cm hyper212 will do the job better.

The FX cores do not perform well compared to Intel.
You might want to do some testing to verify the problem.
a) Run your games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You could also experiment with removing one core. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option. set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many cores.

If your FPS drops significantly, it is an indicator that your cpu is the limiting factor, and a cpu upgrade is in order.

 

[soldier5637]

You should be good with that case, you can mount the radiator & fans on the top two intakes of the case.

 

[Mumaboss]

Use CPU-Z to see if your cpu is downclocking; I suspect not.

A aftermarket cooler will help with noise and temperatures.
What is your motherboard? Some are not suitable for overclocking a FX-8xxx.

What is your case? Liquid coolers have issues mounting in a case.
Normally, a simple tower type cooler like a cm hyper212 will do the job better.

The FX cores do not perform well compared to Intel.
You might want to do some testing to verify the problem.
a) Run your games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You could also experiment with removing one core. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option. set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many cores.

If your FPS drops significantly, it is an indicator that your cpu is the limiting factor, and a cpu upgrade is in order.

The motherboard is GA-990FXA-UD3 and the case is Thermaltake Commander MS-I.
When I reduce resolution and or texture quality the fps does increase.
And when I play GTA V it just overheats and shuts down. It makes so much heat, I don't even need the heating in my room.

 

[Mumaboss]

You should be good with that case, you can mount the radiator & fans on the top two intakes of the case.

Are you sure? I'm really suspicions because of the RAM I couldn't install 120MM fan on top of the case.

 

[soldier5637]

Ah well no, If you couldnt install them on the top then a radiator will definitely not fit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181030&cm_re=corsair_h60-_-35-181-030-_-Product
that might be more what you're looking for it should still more than cover your cooling needs as well as easily fit on the back exhaust port.
Its what i have on my FX 6300 OC to 4.6 GHz. Works great.

 

[Mumaboss]

Ah well no, If you couldnt install them on the top then a radiator will definitely not fit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181030&cm_re=corsair_h60-_-35-181-030-_-Product
that might be more what you're looking for it should still more than cover your cooling needs as well as easily fit on the back exhaust port.

Well actually I just thought of it , If i moved ram to the other slots It would fit fine, but one issue, call me stupid but I don't know how to screw the fan on top. Do you need pictures so you can try to assist me? And if the fan fits, would the radiator?

 

[soldier5637]

If you're not sure, I would stick with the H60. But if you want to try the H100, go for it. You just have to get a screw driver and sort of force them through the holes on the radiator fans because they dont come threaded, you have to make the thread via putting the screws in the holes on the fans.

 

[Mumaboss]

If you're not sure, I would stick with the H60. But if you want to try the H100, go for it. You just have to get a screw driver and sort of force them through the holes on the radiator fans because they dont come threaded, you have to make the thread via putting the screws in the holes on the fans.

Wait a sec, I'm sending you pictures. Here's one http://postimg.org/image/m7pygeh0b/ looks like a radiator would fit.

 

[Mumaboss]

And here it is from the inside http://postimg.org/image/4k942lakl/

 

[soldier5637]

Ah, yes you'll want to go the H60 route, I have high doubts of the H100i working for you at all. The radiator and fans on the h100 will be about 5 centimeters, the ram wont let it fit.

 

[geofelt]

My reading shows that your case has only one front 120mm intake, and room for one 120mm intake on the bottom.
Intake is what counts. If needed, install higher rpm fans as intakes.

With good intake air, a simple tower type air cooler with a 120 or 140mm fan will do the job.
You will cool equally well and be quieter too.

Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.

 

[Mumaboss]

My reading shows that your case has only one front 120mm intake, and room for one 120mm intake on the bottom.
Intake is what counts. If needed, install higher rpm fans as intakes.

With good intake air, a simple tower type air cooler with a 120 or 140mm fan will do the job.
You will cool equally well and be quieter too.

Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.

I've got one intake fan on the front, but I cannot install the one on the bottom because the PSU is too big. And also I'd install a 120mm on top but seems screws don't fit in the holes?!?!

 

[Mumaboss]

My reading shows that your case has only one front 120mm intake, and room for one 120mm intake on the bottom.
Intake is what counts. If needed, install higher rpm fans as intakes.

With good intake air, a simple tower type air cooler with a 120 or 140mm fan will do the job.
You will cool equally well and be quieter too.

Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.

I've got one intake fan on the front, but I cannot install the one on the bottom because the PSU is too big. And also I'd install a 120mm on top but seems screws don't fit in the holes?!?!

 

[Mumaboss]

So would the H80i or Alphacool Eisber 120 work? Alphacool Eisberg 120 is what I'm currently looking at since its cheaper about 20$ in my country.

 

[geofelt]

Instead of spending lots of money on cooling parts, I suggest you buy a case with better airflow in the first place.

Otherwise, you need to get more than what a single 120mm fan can deliver as intake to your case.
One option might be to buy a higher rpm 120mm fan for intake.
They are not overly expensive. A 4000 rpm fan will bring in a massive amount of air, but at the cost of considerable noise.

 

[DeathMan666]

what did you do at the end? seems like corsair h100 can fit in that case with some angles at the op of the case, check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gFZDxo89Jo

 

[geofelt]

Your cpu cooler is a downdraft cooler that is not very effective.

A CM hyper212 or other simple tower type air cooler with a 120mm fan will do wonders. About $30.
No real need for more.

Your test shows me that your cpu is fine for the task, and that a stronger graphics card will improve performance.
What is your current graphics card, and make/model of psu?

 

[Mumaboss]

Your cpu cooler is a downdraft cooler that is not very effective.

A CM hyper212 or other simple tower type air cooler with a 120mm fan will do wonders. About $30.
No real need for more.

Your test shows me that your cpu is fine for the task, and that a stronger graphics card will improve performance.
What is your current graphics card, and make/model of psu?

Gpu is XFX R9 280X
Psu is Corsair 750W

 

[Manish Tewari]

Hello everybody.
Currently I've got an FX-8320 @ 3.5GHz with stock cooler. And its overheating when I play games like GTA V or BF4 and I get low fps on those games, or even like cpu heavy games like Minecraft have low fps. My guess is either its bad cpu ( malfunctioning ) or its thermal throttling since cpu reaches up to 80 C which is pretty enough for melting the cpu.
So I'm going to get a new cooler and its going to be Alphacool Eisberg 120 which can fit my case ( TT- Commander MS-I ).
So I wonder can I overclock with that cooler and is it good?

I would strongly recommend 212 Evo with your MOBO and CPU setup - as i read 'Geofelt' has already mentioned above, that been said:

Try bumping it up to 1.35 and see if it will boot. If so, drop down incrementally until it fails to boot again. 1.345, 1.34, etc. You can fine tune even more than that but it's a start to find a stable voltage. If it still won't boot at 1.35 try bumping up slightly until stable and then check temps and stability with whatever stress test you use. You realize every chip is different so what works for one 8320 may not work for another. Make sure that application power management is enabled and that high performance computing mode is disabled in the BIOS. That's really probably not related, just a side note really.

Once you get it stable at 4 if you desire to go higher increase the multiplier by a step and repeat the procedure. You may find at some point that the voltage required to remain stable exceeds the CM 212's ability to keep the cpu below TJmax so if you find thermal limits are going to be a problem then drop back down a step in the process until you get a better cooler. You may not encounter that issue, but you may.

Also, are you adjusting only the multiplier and voltage or are you changing FSB or other values too? For now, I'd leave everything else on auto until you find your sweet spot. Also, you might want to keep the other voltages set to "offset" until you become more familiar with your setup and then you can play with some of the other settings. Manual settings for everything might cause you some issues.