andyb313 :
bhogervorst :
andyb313 :
Hi guys i have decided to upgrade my pc after not upgrading the cpu for a good few years now.
Currently
asus z97 pro mobo
i5 4670k (overclocked on air cooling)
GTX 1080
16gb DDR3 ram
I use the pc for gaming and video editing hense why i would like to upgrade as video editing can be choppy. Can someone advise a good upgrade? Also i will be overclocking the cpu and would like to stick to intel.
I have never used liquid cooling is it beneficial and easy to set up?
Looking online i was considering
i7 4800k cpu
Asus x99 mobo
and crucial 16gb DDR4 ram
+cooler
+ A new large case
The budget is up to £1000 but dont want to spend it all if i dont need to. Any recommendations greatly appreciated here as my last set up was built with advice from this forum and i have been mope than happy with it for the past 4 years or so.
andyb313 :
manddy123 :
andyb313 :
I use both gaming and video editing so a tough decision. Will it still perform well in video editing? i think i will avoid liquid cooling as i do not want hassle.
Also are there any good white cases (large) that would house my set up with good cooling? i have no clue about cases but will probably be making the office in white gloss so a white case would suite more.
Thankyou for your help. im a noob when it comes to cpu and cases and really appreciate the advice
Yeah, absolutely. It's still a i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads!
I love the look of these, both are Full tower(pretty damn big)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/HZ6BD3/nzxt-case-caph530w1
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/XFV48d/nzxt-case-casw810w1
They're not the cheapest option, if you're looking for a more budgety one, just say the word.
Thankyou i will be pick the second white case
If i decide to go with Ryzen 7 i assume i will need a different mobo?
I have never used an AMD cpu. do they allow for much overclock?
andyb313,
Yes, while the 7700k is going to be better in games than the Ryzen 7, it's not going to be by much and probably nothing you're going to notice. Saying that Ryzen 7 is "worse" is technically true but not very relevant. It will only drop performance by 10% at most compared to the 7700k.
And yes you are you going to need a completely different motherboard for Intel and AMD CPU's. Those sockets haven't been similar in decades.
As for Overclocking, the 7700K is going to overclock higher but it also has half the cores/threads. Generally people who overclock 7700k's can get upwards of 4.5Ghz. I've never seen anybody with a Ryzen 7 CPU get over 4.1-ish GHz but you also have to consider that you're overclocking double the amount of cores.
And when I say editing, I don't just mean timeline editing, I mean the whole rendering process including effects, rendering times and timeline editing.
For Rendering, a Ryzen 7 CPU will kill a 7700k in terms of rendering times.
I personally find the Ryzen 7 1700 to be the best in this case, even over a Ryzen 7 1800x or i7-7700k because you can just overclock the 1700 to match the performance of the more expensive Ryzen 7 1800x, saving you about $150.
Whatever you chose is up to you, just please know what you're getting and be well educated about it. Ask if you have ANY questions! Hope this helped and wasn't too biased
- BHogervorst
Thankyou for the info but now you have left me confused. i think i will go with the ryzen 7 but you say overclock the 1700 to save $ . can the 1800x not be overclocked?
I'm sorry andyb313 for being confusing, I'll try to explain it a little better.
First off, every Ryzen processor can be overclocked with the right motherboard (I will get to that in a moment).
Regardless of whether you get a Ryzen 7 1800X or a Ryzen 7 1700, they can be overclocked to pretty much the same frequency. But here's why I said you should buy the 1700 over the 1800X, I'll compare them:
Ryzen 7 1800X: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.6 - 4.0GHz - $499
Ryzen 7 1700: 8 cores 16 threads, 3.3 - 3.7GHz - $330
Basically the 1700 and 1800X are the same processor but the 1800X is already overclocked from the factory, if that makes sense. So naturally if you overclock the 1700 to 4.0GHz it will perform the same or better than the 1800X and you'll save $170 USD.
Lastly, to backup my claim, here's a quote from an article on this subject:
AMD’s most affordable Ryzen 7 8-core CPU [the 1700] has been overclocked to 4GHz on all 8 cores. With decent motheboards and cooling this $329 chip is said to be capable of outperforming the flagship $499 Ryzen 7 1800X and Intel’s $1050 i7 6900K.
The quote is from this Article: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/
Now in terms of Motherboards for overclocking, any motherboard with the X370 or B350 chipset will be able to overclock Ryzen CPU's. If you need help finding a compatible motherboard, let us know.
I hope this helped a little more, please again let us know if you have more questions and what you eventually decide on.
- BHogervorst