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i don't know the max size for the tivo model 540xxx, but 300gb and below do
work with that model.
ps.fwiw i saw next weeks staples advertisement and their only offer is a
80gb for $59 (no rebates).
"Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:s82dnSexIKstPrrfRVn-og@comcast.com...
> Chris, Not to beat a dead horse, but will my new 540 series 2 TiVo take up
> to a 250GB hard drive? How about my Dimension 4550? Thanks, Pat
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:7EHVd.41579$ya6.37275@trndny01...
>> and i have to admit that yesterday, 3/2/05 i did receive my $27 bestbuy
>> memory rebate submitted 9/19/04... 5 months and 4 calls is pretty bad in
>> my opinion.... but at least it is a 800 number... and of course it is
>> anecdotal evidence... just my bund luck to have had so many problems with
>> bestbuy rebates. as for circuitcity, i have not had problems with their
>> rebates.... but the 250gb wd drive for $129 after rebate is not a good a
>> value as the 160gb hatachi for $59 from compusa... 160 is pretty big for
>> a tivo providing about 80 hours of medium quality recording (160 of the
>> low quality, and 40 of the highest quality). you might want to wait
>> until sunday to see what deals are offered next week...
>>
>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> news:XMudndJeDLc317vfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>> Chris, Already did the 30 second skip thing. I mostly use FF two times
>>> and then Play, which seems to get me right back to the show. Circuit
>>> City also has some WD JB drives on sale too. Any rebate problems with
>>> them? Staples is the best for rebates, but I still do some of the Best
>>> Buy rebates and haven't had any major problems. Yet! Thanks, Pat
>>>
>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:HmQUd.88156$QS5.2627@trndny06...
>>>> well the box pictured in the advertisement says a three year warranty
>>>> but the product description says one year...
>>>>
>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:skQUd.41791$s16.29558@trndny02...
>>>>> compusa has a hatachi 160gb drive for $59 after rebate through march
>>>>> 5th. it costs $119.99 less a $60 rebate to be precise. it has a three
>>>>> year warranty vs the one year warranty of the western digital drive
>>>>> from bestbuy.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:l-ydnZEw0Mco5b7fRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Good points Chris. I see Circuit City and Best Buy have the WD JB
>>>>>> drives on sale this week again and I guess I'll pick one up for a
>>>>>> replacement and/or backup drive. Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:nKbUd.50977$sR5.21651@trndny05...
>>>>>>>i am certainly no tivo expert either... and i do think that there is
>>>>>>>some hardware component that locks the lifetime subscription to the
>>>>>>>machine, but i don't know for certain... but the catch is that you
>>>>>>>are not able to run 'first time setup' if you have a drive failure
>>>>>>>and do not have a backup of your drive image. the likely source of
>>>>>>>failure in these machines are the power supply (easily replaceable)
>>>>>>>or the hard disk (which can be replaced as discussed above). even if
>>>>>>>you don't replace the hard disk you should consider at least making a
>>>>>>>back up the system image as they (tivo) will not help you restore it
>>>>>>>should it stop working outside of warranty. another common reason for
>>>>>>>these things to fail is if the modem fails... and then it can no
>>>>>>>longer collect updates and that renders the device pretty useless.
>>>>>>>from reading the tivo message board (on tivo's site) it appears to
>>>>>>>have been a big problem on the older machines but not so much of a
>>>>>>>problem on the new machines. none the less it motivated me to get the
>>>>>>>wireless network connection going so that i could disconnect the
>>>>>>>modem from the phone line and eliminate the possibility of the mode
>>>>>>>being zapped... the life time thing really is a bit of a gamble... it
>>>>>>>boils down to paying for two years up front in the hopes that it
>>>>>>>lasts longer... and of course there is the risk of it not even
>>>>>>>lasting the first two years... good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:V4idnSeYIrq1YoDfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information Chris, I have a Dim 4550, with Nero 6
>>>>>>>> and MyDVD Deluxe for the TTG DVD burning, so I should be able to
>>>>>>>> burn an ISO file to cd. I'm no expert, but I thought the lifetime
>>>>>>>> sub was tied to the machine thru an EPROM chip on the board, like
>>>>>>>> Win XP OEM being tied to the Dell BIOS. So, I think you can
>>>>>>>> replace drives without losing your lifetime sub. But, then again
>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new at this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:rI5Td.68304$g16.7273@trndny08...
>>>>>>>>> this is a better place to start...
>>>>>>>>> http://www.weaknees.com/upgrade_instructions.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Qf2dnUJoWtOGRIHfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Chris, Getting a little off topic, but...was your 40-hour still
>>>>>>>>>> under warranty? Mine is new and I hate to void the one year
>>>>>>>>>> warranty if I don't have to. Did you replace the old drive with
>>>>>>>>>> the new one and put the old one on the shelf as a backup?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you get the TTG upgrade? My Toshiba SD-400, with the
>>>>>>>>>> built-in DVD player, has all of the reported channel changing
>>>>>>>>>> problems, pixelation and stuttering sound for about 10 seconds
>>>>>>>>>> when you change the channels. Reboots haven't helped either. Do
>>>>>>>>>> you have any of those problems?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My new 40-hour just got the upgrade last night and I haven't had
>>>>>>>>>> time to see if that has the same problems yet. Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:kJrSd.32536$s16.29128@trndny02...
>>>>>>>>>>> while you were at best buy i was at staples and purchased a
>>>>>>>>>>> 200gb drive for my tivo ($60 after rebate)... now the tivo
>>>>>>>>>>> reports 229 hours (previously 40 hours). keeping the
>>>>>>>>>>> old/original drive as a back up in the event that this one ever
>>>>>>>>>>> fails. several different methods to 'clone' the old drive to
>>>>>>>>>>> the new, but this method is very easy (if you have installed
>>>>>>>>>>> hard disks before) and very fast... but only if you don't mind
>>>>>>>>>>> loosing the recorded shows (not the season pass or other
>>>>>>>>>>> settings, just the recordings)...
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/step4.php
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:edSdnYZD4f4HrYffRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Update. Bought two new 8-port switches and setup as discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>> below. Of course while at Best Buy I had to see if there were
>>>>>>>>>>>> any good deals on another TiVo and ended up getting a 40 hour
>>>>>>>>>>>> for $40 after $100 rebate. The network does seem a little
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster, especially transferring shows to/from the old and new
>>>>>>>>>>>> TiVo and from the TiVo's to my PC for archiving and burning
>>>>>>>>>>>> DVD's. Thanks to all, network upgrade complete! Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:mYydnegO0fq-YInfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all the responses, as usual in this group. I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my network is pretty old, since I am still using the original
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linksys hub. Sounds like two 8-port linksys switches is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick. Chris is right, keeping all linksys, or your favorite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flavor, has always the best way to go. If I have one 8-port
>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch in the first floor closet, I can have my cable guy run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacks to every first floor room from the basement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cable router also has four ports, but as Chris pointed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, one is lost to the uplink to the hub (new switch).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't noticed any speed issues, so it will be interesting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see if there is any increased performance. With 20/20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hindsight, I guess I should have had more Cat5 jacks installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs, when the second floor was wired. Oh well...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:VlWQd.27073$8n7.21562@fe04.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jerry Park" <NoReply@No.Spam> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:FuRQd.483$1x1.66@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Conover wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I have a small peer to peer network and want to add another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hub and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >switch to expand it to the first floor. Current setup (all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Linksys) is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Cable/DSL 10/100 Router with four ports uplinked to a 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >port hub, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >computers Cat5 hardwired to the Router/Hub location.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Cable Modem-->Cable Router-->5 Port Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I have one Cat5 hardwired jack from the 1st floor to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >2nd floor and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >want to add another Hub or Switch by uplinking the 2nd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >floor Hub through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hardwired 1st floor jack, so I can connect several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >computers and my TiVo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the 1st floor Hub or Switch. The distance is more than 16'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >but less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >328'. What I want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >5 Port Hub Uplink-->2nd FL jack to 1st FL jack-->New Hub or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >So, do I need a Hub or a Switch? Hubs are much cheaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >than Switches.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >should I go wireless? I prefer the speed and security of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >100Mbs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardwired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >as I do use it for business. Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A hub or switch will work. The benefit of a switch is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requests are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routed by the switch to the appropriate system, rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast as a hub does. That is, a switch knows that system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is on port 3. A request to that system is sent only through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port three.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reduces unnecessary traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/bridge_types.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switches are too cheap to use hubs these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless can be secure. it is very convenient but you could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues depending on the environment. of course the added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost of wirless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards or access points jumps the price up. but it'll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quick and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively painless versus running cable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
i don't know the max size for the tivo model 540xxx, but 300gb and below do
work with that model.
ps.fwiw i saw next weeks staples advertisement and their only offer is a
80gb for $59 (no rebates).
"Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:s82dnSexIKstPrrfRVn-og@comcast.com...
> Chris, Not to beat a dead horse, but will my new 540 series 2 TiVo take up
> to a 250GB hard drive? How about my Dimension 4550? Thanks, Pat
>
> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:7EHVd.41579$ya6.37275@trndny01...
>> and i have to admit that yesterday, 3/2/05 i did receive my $27 bestbuy
>> memory rebate submitted 9/19/04... 5 months and 4 calls is pretty bad in
>> my opinion.... but at least it is a 800 number... and of course it is
>> anecdotal evidence... just my bund luck to have had so many problems with
>> bestbuy rebates. as for circuitcity, i have not had problems with their
>> rebates.... but the 250gb wd drive for $129 after rebate is not a good a
>> value as the 160gb hatachi for $59 from compusa... 160 is pretty big for
>> a tivo providing about 80 hours of medium quality recording (160 of the
>> low quality, and 40 of the highest quality). you might want to wait
>> until sunday to see what deals are offered next week...
>>
>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> news:XMudndJeDLc317vfRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>> Chris, Already did the 30 second skip thing. I mostly use FF two times
>>> and then Play, which seems to get me right back to the show. Circuit
>>> City also has some WD JB drives on sale too. Any rebate problems with
>>> them? Staples is the best for rebates, but I still do some of the Best
>>> Buy rebates and haven't had any major problems. Yet! Thanks, Pat
>>>
>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:HmQUd.88156$QS5.2627@trndny06...
>>>> well the box pictured in the advertisement says a three year warranty
>>>> but the product description says one year...
>>>>
>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:skQUd.41791$s16.29558@trndny02...
>>>>> compusa has a hatachi 160gb drive for $59 after rebate through march
>>>>> 5th. it costs $119.99 less a $60 rebate to be precise. it has a three
>>>>> year warranty vs the one year warranty of the western digital drive
>>>>> from bestbuy.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:l-ydnZEw0Mco5b7fRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Good points Chris. I see Circuit City and Best Buy have the WD JB
>>>>>> drives on sale this week again and I guess I'll pick one up for a
>>>>>> replacement and/or backup drive. Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:nKbUd.50977$sR5.21651@trndny05...
>>>>>>>i am certainly no tivo expert either... and i do think that there is
>>>>>>>some hardware component that locks the lifetime subscription to the
>>>>>>>machine, but i don't know for certain... but the catch is that you
>>>>>>>are not able to run 'first time setup' if you have a drive failure
>>>>>>>and do not have a backup of your drive image. the likely source of
>>>>>>>failure in these machines are the power supply (easily replaceable)
>>>>>>>or the hard disk (which can be replaced as discussed above). even if
>>>>>>>you don't replace the hard disk you should consider at least making a
>>>>>>>back up the system image as they (tivo) will not help you restore it
>>>>>>>should it stop working outside of warranty. another common reason for
>>>>>>>these things to fail is if the modem fails... and then it can no
>>>>>>>longer collect updates and that renders the device pretty useless.
>>>>>>>from reading the tivo message board (on tivo's site) it appears to
>>>>>>>have been a big problem on the older machines but not so much of a
>>>>>>>problem on the new machines. none the less it motivated me to get the
>>>>>>>wireless network connection going so that i could disconnect the
>>>>>>>modem from the phone line and eliminate the possibility of the mode
>>>>>>>being zapped... the life time thing really is a bit of a gamble... it
>>>>>>>boils down to paying for two years up front in the hopes that it
>>>>>>>lasts longer... and of course there is the risk of it not even
>>>>>>>lasting the first two years... good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:V4idnSeYIrq1YoDfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information Chris, I have a Dim 4550, with Nero 6
>>>>>>>> and MyDVD Deluxe for the TTG DVD burning, so I should be able to
>>>>>>>> burn an ISO file to cd. I'm no expert, but I thought the lifetime
>>>>>>>> sub was tied to the machine thru an EPROM chip on the board, like
>>>>>>>> Win XP OEM being tied to the Dell BIOS. So, I think you can
>>>>>>>> replace drives without losing your lifetime sub. But, then again
>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new at this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:rI5Td.68304$g16.7273@trndny08...
>>>>>>>>> this is a better place to start...
>>>>>>>>> http://www.weaknees.com/upgrade_instructions.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Qf2dnUJoWtOGRIHfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Chris, Getting a little off topic, but...was your 40-hour still
>>>>>>>>>> under warranty? Mine is new and I hate to void the one year
>>>>>>>>>> warranty if I don't have to. Did you replace the old drive with
>>>>>>>>>> the new one and put the old one on the shelf as a backup?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did you get the TTG upgrade? My Toshiba SD-400, with the
>>>>>>>>>> built-in DVD player, has all of the reported channel changing
>>>>>>>>>> problems, pixelation and stuttering sound for about 10 seconds
>>>>>>>>>> when you change the channels. Reboots haven't helped either. Do
>>>>>>>>>> you have any of those problems?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My new 40-hour just got the upgrade last night and I haven't had
>>>>>>>>>> time to see if that has the same problems yet. Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Christopher Muto" <muto@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:kJrSd.32536$s16.29128@trndny02...
>>>>>>>>>>> while you were at best buy i was at staples and purchased a
>>>>>>>>>>> 200gb drive for my tivo ($60 after rebate)... now the tivo
>>>>>>>>>>> reports 229 hours (previously 40 hours). keeping the
>>>>>>>>>>> old/original drive as a back up in the event that this one ever
>>>>>>>>>>> fails. several different methods to 'clone' the old drive to
>>>>>>>>>>> the new, but this method is very easy (if you have installed
>>>>>>>>>>> hard disks before) and very fast... but only if you don't mind
>>>>>>>>>>> loosing the recorded shows (not the season pass or other
>>>>>>>>>>> settings, just the recordings)...
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/step4.php
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:edSdnYZD4f4HrYffRVn-ig@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Update. Bought two new 8-port switches and setup as discussed
>>>>>>>>>>>> below. Of course while at Best Buy I had to see if there were
>>>>>>>>>>>> any good deals on another TiVo and ended up getting a 40 hour
>>>>>>>>>>>> for $40 after $100 rebate. The network does seem a little
>>>>>>>>>>>> faster, especially transferring shows to/from the old and new
>>>>>>>>>>>> TiVo and from the TiVo's to my PC for archiving and burning
>>>>>>>>>>>> DVD's. Thanks to all, network upgrade complete! Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Pat Conover" <pat conover at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:mYydnegO0fq-YInfRVn-pw@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all the responses, as usual in this group. I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my network is pretty old, since I am still using the original
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linksys hub. Sounds like two 8-port linksys switches is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trick. Chris is right, keeping all linksys, or your favorite
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flavor, has always the best way to go. If I have one 8-port
>>>>>>>>>>>>> switch in the first floor closet, I can have my cable guy run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jacks to every first floor room from the basement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The cable router also has four ports, but as Chris pointed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, one is lost to the uplink to the hub (new switch).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haven't noticed any speed issues, so it will be interesting to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see if there is any increased performance. With 20/20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hindsight, I guess I should have had more Cat5 jacks installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downstairs, when the second floor was wired. Oh well...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dogface" <DogFace@doghouse.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:VlWQd.27073$8n7.21562@fe04.lga...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jerry Park" <NoReply@No.Spam> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:FuRQd.483$1x1.66@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pat Conover wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I have a small peer to peer network and want to add another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Hub and/or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >switch to expand it to the first floor. Current setup (all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Linksys) is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Cable/DSL 10/100 Router with four ports uplinked to a 5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >port hub, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >computers Cat5 hardwired to the Router/Hub location.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Cable Modem-->Cable Router-->5 Port Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >I have one Cat5 hardwired jack from the 1st floor to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >2nd floor and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >want to add another Hub or Switch by uplinking the 2nd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >floor Hub through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >hardwired 1st floor jack, so I can connect several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >computers and my TiVo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >the 1st floor Hub or Switch. The distance is more than 16'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >but less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >328'. What I want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >5 Port Hub Uplink-->2nd FL jack to 1st FL jack-->New Hub or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Switch
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >So, do I need a Hub or a Switch? Hubs are much cheaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >than Switches.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >should I go wireless? I prefer the speed and security of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >100Mbs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardwired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >as I do use it for business. Thanks, Pat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A hub or switch will work. The benefit of a switch is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requests are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routed by the switch to the appropriate system, rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast as a hub does. That is, a switch knows that system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is on port 3. A request to that system is sent only through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port three.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reduces unnecessary traffic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/networking/bridge_types.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switches are too cheap to use hubs these days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless can be secure. it is very convenient but you could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues depending on the environment. of course the added
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost of wirless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cards or access points jumps the price up. but it'll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quick and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively painless versus running cable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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