Networking two homes together over 4 wires.

[Cameronmotes]

I have friends that work for AT&T that I've talked into connecting me to another one of our friends homes that can't get a home broadband connection. He's 10 miles from the telephone company hub and I'm 2 miles. A total distance of 12 miles of direct 4 wires (two pairs). I have a business class Cable internet connection that I want to share with him, ether T1 or other means. Can anyone direct me on a path of what I need to do here?

 

[Guest]

Your description is a little confusing. To network two locations you'll typically need a leased line with a router at either end. Clearly the speed of the leased line needs to be whatever bandwidth you wish to share with your friend. The router capabilities must be matched to the speed and connection type of the line.

Hope this helps.

 

[bill001g]

There likely is no cost effective solution it will almost always be cheaper to get a internet connection in the other house directly from the telco.

First what you want to do is not even technically possible. Even if you were to run wire directly from your house to his you are way over the limits of any technology. You are almost at the limits of many fiber solutions.

Between you can the telco there are likely powered repeating devices. He might be on a simple loop to the telco but it is not all the common. The limit for just a voice line was about 3 miles so you are well over even the simplest form of analog phone much less any form of data connection.

Now can ATT do this ?, sure they can likely provision even a pair of bonded e1 between the locations but they will never do it for free.

 

[Kewlx25]

Typically the leased dedicated connection is 90% of the cost and the bandwidth is virtually free. More than likely, whatever you can purchase to connect to him would be nearly the same price as just getting that same connection to the Internet.

 

[Cameronmotes]

The 4 wires are directly connected. Both ends are completely dead. Just for testing purposes I've connected a speaker at his end and spliced a 1/8" audio cable to the end at my home. I can play music with perfect audio quality to his home. Using telephone modems we were able to make two connections at 48Kbps each using windows server RRAS to bridge the connections to a 96Kbps internet connection. I have two Adtran t1 modems but have no idea how to connect them. I've also been told about using old school SDSL modems back to back would work. We've tried using 10Mbps Ethernet over copper switches with no luck, but they could also be defective. I've gotta throw something in at this. The only thing available to his home is AT&T landline phone service, dial up, or T1 at over $1200 per month or satalite internet. I currently have a 50/8Mbps cable internet connection I just want to share through these 4 wires. Theirs gotta be a way. My friends at AT&T says that 85% of all AT&T lines are unused in my town, AT&T does not have a market in this town. Everyone is switching to the cable provider because for a forth of the price they can have ten times faster internet and cheaper phone service. The lines are again, dead from the telephone company, directly connected with no amplifiers or anything in the line.

 

[bill001g]

They make device called ethernet extenders that are a form of private dsl most are well under 5000ft range. T1 modems are designed to go to smart jacks maybe you get 200meters. You can cable them back to back but I have no clue if the distance would then be 100 meters or if it would be 400 meters. In any case you are way over the limits.

It is surprising you can even detect something connected on the far end. In a perfect case you would get over 100ohms of resistance per mile 1.2k ohms is a huge amount of resistance.....amplifiers to driver speakers are rate up to maybe 16 ohms. I have no clue how you would ever get anything to play over that it should look like a open wire.

 

[Guest]

Perhaps your friends at AT&T can lay some fibre optic cable for you. Or microwave if you've line of sight (and a tin foil helmet).

 

[Cameronmotes]

We did it!!! Using two speedstream SDSL modems back to back, we're getting 2-2.2Mbps download and upload. Estimated 12Mile run!!! Unfreaking believable. 275 Kilobytes per second! Completely free! I know it's impossible but it's happening! Wish I could upload a screenshot!

 

[Guest]

Interesting. As far as I can see you've smashed the distance record by 5 or 6 times, whilst still achieving the maximum possible throughput.

I take it you bought a pair of SDSL modems over the weekend- which make/model should I get if I want to try this?