New AMD FX-8320E Vishera 8-Core 3.2GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3 idles at 50 degrees!!!

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Hey everyone. Just got a new AMD FX-8320E Vishera 8-Core 3.2GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Desktop Processor to replace my older AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus Quad-Core 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Desktop Processor last week and the temps alarm me!!! :ouch: :ouch: First, here's my specs

my New AMD CPU...lol
MSI 970A-G46 AM3+ AMD 970 mobo
8 gigs ram
radeon 7800 series video card

When i first installed the new CPU and started my computer, MSI Control center was registering the temps of the processor at 50 degrees... in idle mode!!! I thought maybe the preplaced heat sink material that comes stock on the fan and heatsink was bad so i took out the cpu got all the old heat sink material off and put on some of my Artic Silver. Same temps! My processor isn't overclocked either. I have three 120mm case fans blowing air into my computer and 2 120mm fans sucking air out of my computer. With the same setup my previous AMD quad core never went over 30 something degrees at idle.
I took the side of my computer case off as well to see if it made a diff and it only made about a 3 Degree difference. When i play a game, which currently is Project Cars, the temps shut up to 65 degrees. Currently as I'm typing this the temp is 50 degrees. I've checked and rechecked everything multiple times. Made sure everything was connected and that nothing was blocking the cpu fan and so forth. I've check my bios and MSI control center to make sure something isn't set wrong like voltage, base clock or the multiplier. My computer is running the CPU like its supposed to.
I'm not having any issues like freezing, stuttering, and or slow downs that one might get when a cpu is running to warm. I've downloaded other cpu temp monitoring programs like Coretemp, HWmonitor, and something else but they all give diff temps and is confussing. I tend to stick with the MSI control center because it's been reliable in the past. I bought the CPU from Newegg and thinking maybe I've gotten a bad processor and need to sent it back but i wanted to get everyone's advise on it before i go down that rout. Thanks for any help in this matter.
 
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Wow a video, that is a perfect way to provide information to people trying to help you. The temperature that the motherboard is giving you is the Socket Temp. That temperature is allowed to go up to 72C. What is really important is the temperature of the cores and in the video you provided I believe it stayed at ~27-35C degrees which isn't bad.

Now 50C for the socket at idle is still too high. Undervolting probably won't help much with lowering socket temps compared to core temps. The thing is you showed a video of your CPU on idle. I would appreciate it if you can either make a video or tell me how hot the Socket Temp and Core Temps get when you load the CPU 100%. That is the only way to know for sure if the...


Well for me I have my wires tucked behind the back panel so I used zip ties to tie the fan by the four corners onto the surrounding wires. As for attaching the fan to the heatsink. Depending on your motherboard you will have a small heatsink on your VRM/Mosfet chips. Once again you use screws or zipties, rubberbands to attach it. High temps of the VRM, which is right next to the socket might be one reason why the socket heats up so much.
 



3M double sided tape on the 4 screw corners of an 80mm fan will attach perfectly to the stock AMD backplate. If you have a heatsink over the mosfet heatsink zip ties work fine.
 




okay, I'm guessing what you mean by VRM/Mosfet chip is the Black heatsink that located under my cpu socket with MSI printed on it in the pic below or is it the big long heatsink located to the left of the cpu socket??



Should i put the fan on top of it or to the side of it?? I think I'm going to keep from doing any intensive CPU stuff on my computer until i get those extra fans in place. I was playing project cars tonight and started to smell like something was hot coming from my 120mm exhaust fan on top of my computer case. Went and checked my socket temps from MSI control center and it was reading 71 degrees!!! :ouch: :ouch: . Computer is moving a little sluggish now too and socket temps are 62 degrees right now with only internet activity.

 


The VRM/Mosfet Heatsink is the long one without the MSI logo. So in the picture it's the one at the top. As far as the older and new Hyper 212. Both will fit for FX CPUs because the mounting system for AMD is the same. At least with AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1/FM2/FM2+ all have the same mounting brackets. If it works with one of the sockets, it works with the others.
 


when it comes to the placement of the fan on the back side of the mobo, should I have the fan sucking air from the outside and blowing it onto the back side of the mobo or have the fan suck heat of the mobo and expelling it outside of the case? How should the fan be placed on the VRM/Socket?? on top or to the side?? Having diff time seeing in the pic on how it's placed. Should it blow air on it or suck air off the heatsink? Maybe you could get a closer pic of the fans you have on the VRM/Mos heatsink???
 


When it comes to the direction the fan is placed both are blowing air onto the heatsink/socket instead of sucking air away from it. For the VRM it wont matter whether you have it placed as long as air is blowing air onto the heatsink. I'll try to get a better pic of my VRM fan but I attached them by making something out of a spare PC side panel. I doubt you will want to use time to do it that way when you can simply use zip ties to attach the fan.

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Dude the same thing is happening with me even after a CoolerMaster cabinet and fan over the cpu.I have a black edition of the same cpu.You guys say that no game can push your cpu btw then try out ac unity that game brings my cpu to 70 degrees and above and now after 15 days since i bought my computer and cleaned it again the temperaure has lowered a bit while playing it but still i suspect that the cpu is running hotter than it usually ran in the beginning.This cpu is annoying but still i am not having any performance issues so far.
 


Yeah, same here on the high socket temps but no signs of instability, performance issues, or a slow, sluggish acting computer that usually comes with a hot CPU. Now, as the guys were saying my motherboard has issues with heat when trying to run a CPU with more then 6 cores. Bought the mobo from Newegg and have read many reviews about heat issues with this mobo. When I stress test my CPU with Prime95 the socket temps hit 71 degrees but CoreTemps and HWmonitor shows my core temp in low 50s. I to bought a Coolmaster aftermarket cooler and a 120mm case fan to attach to the back of the mobo but have yet to attach it all. I have the feeling that it may not lower the socket temps that much if any. I actually took the side off my computer case and put my box fan blowing into it. It lowered my CPU core temps down but the socket temps still got to 71 degrees according to MSI control center. Im still not sure which is prob with my hot socket temps, the mobos terrible thermal design or the CPU running warm.
Once I get the extra fans hooked up, ill see if it makes any difference. Like you stated, its running warm for sure but no performance issues.
I know this though, I have to get that temp down. I was playing a new race game called Project Cars and the socket temps hit 71 degrees. I could feel the heat coming from my exhaust fan on the top of my computer case. Could smell it to. Thought about sending it back to Newegg and getting replacement to see if it was a bad CPU but would hate to get a replacement and put it in to have the same issues because its the mobo and not the CPU.
 


i have read on this site itself that lowering the vcore voltage does reduce the temperature.And btw i can't reduce my vcore voltage from the bios because it is already at the minimum i.e. 1.4125 dunno how can i reduce it when people say that it should be 1.21xx for this cpu.And i have a lot of place adjustments to make for my cpu is kept in a cupboard which has its door open so maybe the heat flow is not proper.I will keep it in the open by making some adjustments.Also now it is summer time and here in India it is usually hot maybe that's why my temps are so high.Still i would be glad to know if your problem is solved.I am a newbie in terms of all these things(I mean this hardware things like 4+1,CPU Core voltage blah blah) but its good to know more.The cpu runs quiet when running apps or browsing through the net but it heats fast only during heavy gaming.One of my friend told that my motherboard is drawing more than enough power from my psu which is Corsair VS 650w .Hope the experts here help you to find a solution. :)
 


One, all FX CPUs are Black Edition CPUs because Black Edition is a title for AMD's CPUs with unlocked multipliers. All FX CPUs have unlocked multipliers. Second if you're getting 70C in a game, even AC Unity, then something is wrong. Even a stock cooler shouldn't raise the temps that high. You either live in a place that is fairly warm/hot right now, have horrible airflow (not enough fans, badly setup), CPU is somehow faulty (low chance) or your cooler isn't working properly. By saying you bought your computer recently, are you using a prebuilt HP, Lenovo, Dell, etc computer or did you put it together yourself. I'm running an H100i compared to whatever you are using, I will only hit 70C temps Socket or Core temps when I am using 1.5V+ vcore and trying to run the FX 8350 at 4.9-5GHz+.



If your socket temps are indeed getting to 71C then putting a fan behind the motherboard like my picture will help. Everyone in the OCN 8320/8350 Thread that had socket temp issues that added a fan found improvements that varies from 5C to 10C+ of a difference. If you add the fan and the socket temps are still ~70C then the MSI temp reading is off and I recommend you to stop using it. Instead use the other temperature reading programs, which the socket temps on the other programs are actually a few degrees lower than the ~70C you get on MSI Software. Temp reading on the AM3+ and FM2/FM2+ is pretty horrid in my opinion, worse for the FM2/FM2+. I've had a total of 3-4 FM2/FM2+ and AM3+ motherboards and pretty much each motherboard's control center temp numbers were off, except my Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (which I don't even use the default software).
 


Can you please elaborate these parameters?

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The 48 degree temp you are pointing to is probably the CPU socket temp.

CPU Package temp is the core temp, but they typically read something like 13 degrees C too low at least on an FX 6300 due to a mistake in the way the software reporting programs interpret AMD's thermal margin. The thermal margin in Overdrive is to the temp where the chip actually throttles back. That's 83 degrees C on an FX 6300. There are some additional inaccuracies at very low idle temps.
 
You must have something setup wrong here eg. fan placement ect.
I have the same Processor and Mobo and i still have stock cooler on it. I have it OC to 4.0GHz and still the temps are extremely low. Max on full load i have seen is 56C.

Idle temp stays under 30C almost always. I would try and reposition all of your fans and see if that makes a difference. Don't go out and buy a new CPU cooler because more than likely you do not need one. I am only air cooling my rig and have Overclocked the GPU and CPU. Here is a pic of my temps on idle

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What is TMPIN1?
 


Ok!! HWMonitir states that as TMPIN1. And MSI control center reading is matched with other two above and below .
 


The temp of the mobo heat sink im guessing.
 
To the person saying the 970-A G43 has bad thermal design, that may well be the case, but i have the same motherboard with an fx8320e and i idle at 28 degrees, with the stock cooler. I personally havent had any problems with the board or the cpu.
 
I have this CPU. Your vCore should be closer to 1.2, your CPU ratio at 16 and FSB at 200.. The cpu is being fed way to much juice! I use a hyper 212 Evo and all I needed for a 4GHz overclock was to push my V-core to 2.5.
 
this MSI a75 fm2 i have does not allow lower volts to the CPU its at its lowest already.... i guess these fm2's are related in some way to the faulty FX's a lot of them run hot, take a lot of volts and if so run sloooooow my fm1 almost beats this pos and it made my ram and gpu score lower both and both i use a external gpu not the onboard & it wigs out or won't post if i try to use the same ram settings as my sad bare bones zero frills fm1 biostara55mh??????? i must be dreaming HAHAHA and my fm2 is 3.9 and my fm1 is 2.7 and 1 idles at 10-20c gaming on a hot California day 42c MAX & this surfing the web is 50c & spikes to 60 & gaming reaches 80c 90c = DEFECTIVE lots of repost of this & if you have to strap a fan to the back of your heat sink somethings VERY wrong.....i think thermaright used to make 1 for that in the core 2 duo days......... what a joke

 


this is ghetto