New breed of celeron

[74merc]

another thing worth mentioning, Nwood w/256L2 is suppose to be the <i>next</i> celeron after the willy 128...
that may be worth looking at, but by that time the multipliers should be astronomical, huge latency penalty for going to system RAM... nwood Cely 4000 will probably still only equal a P4 3000 or so, but how high would it go?
could be the next big overclocker. odds are by then we'll have Prestonia anyway...

the willy celeron?
in this situation, Intel reminds me of a former employer of mine. he'll knowingly sell total pieces of #@$%%! thinking his name attached will bring customers throwing money at him...

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[lhgpoobaa]

news of the 128k cellery has been aroudn for a while now, just not very common.

and boy is it gonna SUCK!
gonna be hot (0.18) and slow (128k)
2 outta 2 LOL


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[74merc]

hehe
lets take a processor architecture that requires high mhz and low latency on die cache's plus high bandwidth memory, cut the mhz, split the cache, give it 25% the bandwidth!
eureka!!
we'll call it Celeron!! we'll use billions of dollars of research and make millions!!
/pinky to mouth
muahaha!!

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[lhgpoobaa]

yep... i think its conclusive that its gonna suck.
the only nit picking is the fine detail of "how much?"

mate it with a DDR chipset like the new and more efficient 845G and it may not be too bad.
but with sdram its gonna suck like a toothless whore. (pardon the expression)

and with sdram will it be able to beat the cellery 1.3 or 1.4?


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[chuck232]

and boy is it gonna SUCK!
gonna be hot (0.18) and slow (128k)
2 outta 2 LOL

[sarcasm]But at least it'll be "fast"! 1.8GHz?? I mean come on, MHZ/GHz is all that matters isn't it?[/sarcasm]

See to most people they'll see, 1.8GHz Celeron, 1.3GHz Duron. Hmmmm I wonder which'll be better. Since MHz and GHz to them is all that really matters, the celey it is. What is AMD going to do in the recent future to counter this move by Intel? Since no Durons will be made on the .13um process, I'm guessing it's kinda reaching the end of it's life by now. There's gonna be a big hole that only Intel will be able to fill. Not good for AMD, since a lot of people buy Celerons/Durons for just simple surfing.

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[LoveGuRu]

i dont know about you but the CPU's arent that expansive right now, its not like the top model costs 1000$US, back on those days we had to have some cheap ass solution for that yet now they all sell relatively low.
i dont see a need for a celly.

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[chuck232]

But for a computer illiterate person who barely knows how to run Windows, they'd obviously want a cheap solution for running IE and MSN or AIM or ICQ. They don't care really about speed, just price, and since they get 1.8GHz!! that's just an extra to brag about. "Hey look, my 1.8 Celeron is better than your 1.3GHz Duron!" I know that processors nowadays aren't expensive if you know what you're doing, but for 50% of the market, they don't care about IPC, or SSE optimizations and so forth. They just want something that's adequate, cheap, and that sounds 'fast'.

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[camieabz]

Seems that way.





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[LoveGuRu]

i dont see how educational level of a person, reguarding computers is anything but connected to expansive solution, the sellers sell the most expansive stuff to morons(excuse my franch), besides even if there is a 1800+ model i would buy 1600+ coz its smarter.
itel wont make a cheap solution for something that is already dirt cheap.
besides they really make those for companies that need something cheap, and i think the P3 solution is the cheapest and best way to go.

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[chuck232]

The new Celerons will be quite cheap since they are maufactured on old technology, (.18um process still) they are an extremely beat up, castrated Willy P4 core that will be quite small I'll guess since a lot of features wont be included. This should all help to make a chip that will conform to many peoples' tastes which are, if I may repeat myself, adequate for their needs (net surfing mostly), will cost dirt cheap, and will sound nice when they tell their neighbors they got a new comp.

The new Celerons will fit those perameters almost perfectly and why would anyone complain if it is adequate for your needs and is cheap? Even though benchmarks may show that it is slower than even a 1.3GHz Celeron, from now, it wont matter because it'll still be adequate and it'll sound faster. 1.8 vs. 1.3 hmmm.....

So my point is not that people wont buy the more expensive P4s, it's that many will find the new Celerons perfect for their needs and that AMD doesn't have something that can compete with it at a MHz level. Not even at a PR rating level, since the Durons will be gone.

P.S. Intel wont make these chips cheaper than the current Celerons. They'll be a slight bit cheaper so that they will make more money, but to a "moron" they'll think that 1.8 is always better than 1.3, so the extra $10 will have been worth it. By the way, PIII's are quite expensive. Intel's trying to migrate the user to the P4's and they are slowly fading the P3's away.

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