APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: week or so no longer.
BUDGET RANGE: $1,000-$1,200
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (warcraft III FT - Civ 4 - but am looking to get into more recent games), video editing PS/ Ilust - Nero 7 Ultra, motion detected wire cameras (home security) auto record software to PC, family MPG2 & 4 videos storage and view as well as pictures storage and editing, lastly lots of music.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor (22" LG 1680x1050) , speakers (7.1 Creative)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com
PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type . I am thinking AMD CPU, Gigabyte board, open on video card (graphics) thinking ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E 16X 1GB , SSD or HDD boot drive, HDD 7200 Sata II 500Gb back up and storage drive, PSU open,
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe (never have b4) SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Unsure if needed
MONITOR RESOLUTION: Current is 22" LG 1680x1050 (no change there)
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: OK, I am making a major upgrade. I have a Compaq custom comp that is many years old, Has 128MB graphics, 1800+ Athlon (1.52GHz I believe), DVD writer, cdrw, 1 gig ram, 80gig boot drive (ide 7200rpm), 250 gig back up (ide 7200). I have maxed this thing out many years (per board specs) ago and been using hamsters and Popsicle sticks to keep up.
I dabble in video and audio editing for sporting events - want to do more with better software ( that requires greater CPU, graphics, ram & drive speed than I have). I want to get into better games, too many to list (Crysis). I also just want a beast now with a bit of room to expand. Below is the current list I am looking at right now.
Questions
1.a. SSD vs HDD 7500, 10k 15K (Boot drive and working program drive - thougt of using a 500 gig Sata II 3.0g HDD for storage and read write drive for movies, music files and so on.
1/b. AMD x2 6000+ (3.0GHz non OC'ed) or x4 940 (3.0GHz non OC'ed).
Is there a gain from standard HDD 7200 as boot drive vs SSD (64G) boot drive, combined with a x2 6000 or x4 940? It seems the write speed for SSD is lower than HDD but it is the read speed that would realy be needed for running programs (SSD faster than HDD?) as I would like to use a back up drive to store and gather files from to run (modify - edit).
2. I guess to be clearer can I get the same performance from a small (80 gig) HDD 7200 rpm boot drive and say the x4 940 CPU or say a solid state boot drive with the x2 6000 AMD?
3. I am undecided with 32 bit or 64 bit operation, which is better in my case?
I really want a beast as well and was thinking :
CPU AMD II x4 940
Upgrade CPU heatsink and fan
SSD boot drive 64gig (sata II)
Graphics ATI 4850 HD 1gig
4gigs (2GBx2)ram ddr2 800
Vista Prem 64 bit (32 bit?)
case and other hardware
I may not have links for every part:
CASE: Thermaltake M9 VI1000BWS Mid-Tower 420W Case w/ Side-panel Window
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133058
$65 ($50 w/rebate)
POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
$99.99
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773
$89.99
or
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
$189.00
COOLING FAN : COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057
$44.99
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P AMD 790X CrossFire Chipset with PCIe slot DDR2 SATA RAID MB w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, & 7.1Audio
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387
$109.99
MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209
$54.99 x 2 = $110
VIDEO CARD: - SAPPHIRE 100258-1GL Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102802
$149.99
HARD DRIVE: Boot drive: G.SKILL FM-25S2S-64GB 2.5" 64GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231220
$174.99
Data Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
$59.99
Optical Drive: (LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152
$24.99
Just like the look!
Extra Thermal Display : NZXT SEN-001LX Sentry LX Aluminum dual bay fan controller - Retail
Free card reader with purchase, ends 5/31
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992004
$59.99
Lots of camera cards
Flash Media Reader/Writer: Rosewill RCR-102 52-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB port
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820223073
$12.99
Always feel like it is useful
FLOPPY: SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model SFD321B/LFBL1 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16821103203
$7.99
32 or 64 Bit ?
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
$99.99
$1120 - $1,220 approximately (can trim up a bit but also am missing a few misc items like case frame for SSD 2.5" to 3.5" drive bay)
I understand I have a lot here already but want to give you guys all I know. I have built systems previously (back in the Athlon XP AMD days) so I have a little experience but this would be my biggest baddest rig so far with about a 4 year break in building.
So am I overdoing it a bit too much with the build , I know I could spend more but compared to my needs?
I have heard the Raptor 10k HDDs are the best right now but noisy and hot but have heard a few good things about the SSD drives. I have read that SSD only lags in write speed (when installing software, or write temp a/v data - which may slow my video editing and dvd writing but thought using the 500gb hdd b/u drive as the working writing location/drive for those programs temp files would help) I have also read a lot of good rigs in here use a 1TB 7200 rpm drive and suggested in here. So a little confused on the best for my needs.
I would rather not get a SSD if a 7200 RPM sata II 3.0 will be more than I can use (save the money and gain more space), not just for the instant like boot times either. Just looking to get Mozilla, War Craft III, Outlook 2007 working instantly all the time and Nero 7 not maxing out my CPU and slowing every other program running to a stop or retreat!
I will have the above programs along with a Anti Virus spyware program running. Nero 7 Ultra, PS Ilustr, divX, and a few other misc programs installed as well.
Would like to be able to surf web, work on editing A/V, listen to music and maybe even write a DVD at the same time (watch movie vs music) without missing a step. About the most active I think I could be on the computer at a given time.
I have read many rigs here and many suggested changes and you guys have great advice! So please help me with what I think is my own over-thinking madness, building gods! Thx ahead for any advise or opinions.
BUDGET RANGE: $1,000-$1,200
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (warcraft III FT - Civ 4 - but am looking to get into more recent games), video editing PS/ Ilust - Nero 7 Ultra, motion detected wire cameras (home security) auto record software to PC, family MPG2 & 4 videos storage and view as well as pictures storage and editing, lastly lots of music.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor (22" LG 1680x1050) , speakers (7.1 Creative)
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com
PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type . I am thinking AMD CPU, Gigabyte board, open on video card (graphics) thinking ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E 16X 1GB , SSD or HDD boot drive, HDD 7200 Sata II 500Gb back up and storage drive, PSU open,
OVERCLOCKING: Maybe (never have b4) SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Unsure if needed
MONITOR RESOLUTION: Current is 22" LG 1680x1050 (no change there)
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: OK, I am making a major upgrade. I have a Compaq custom comp that is many years old, Has 128MB graphics, 1800+ Athlon (1.52GHz I believe), DVD writer, cdrw, 1 gig ram, 80gig boot drive (ide 7200rpm), 250 gig back up (ide 7200). I have maxed this thing out many years (per board specs) ago and been using hamsters and Popsicle sticks to keep up.
I dabble in video and audio editing for sporting events - want to do more with better software ( that requires greater CPU, graphics, ram & drive speed than I have). I want to get into better games, too many to list (Crysis). I also just want a beast now with a bit of room to expand. Below is the current list I am looking at right now.
Questions
1.a. SSD vs HDD 7500, 10k 15K (Boot drive and working program drive - thougt of using a 500 gig Sata II 3.0g HDD for storage and read write drive for movies, music files and so on.
1/b. AMD x2 6000+ (3.0GHz non OC'ed) or x4 940 (3.0GHz non OC'ed).
Is there a gain from standard HDD 7200 as boot drive vs SSD (64G) boot drive, combined with a x2 6000 or x4 940? It seems the write speed for SSD is lower than HDD but it is the read speed that would realy be needed for running programs (SSD faster than HDD?) as I would like to use a back up drive to store and gather files from to run (modify - edit).
2. I guess to be clearer can I get the same performance from a small (80 gig) HDD 7200 rpm boot drive and say the x4 940 CPU or say a solid state boot drive with the x2 6000 AMD?
3. I am undecided with 32 bit or 64 bit operation, which is better in my case?
I really want a beast as well and was thinking :
CPU AMD II x4 940
Upgrade CPU heatsink and fan
SSD boot drive 64gig (sata II)
Graphics ATI 4850 HD 1gig
4gigs (2GBx2)ram ddr2 800
Vista Prem 64 bit (32 bit?)
case and other hardware
I may not have links for every part:
CASE: Thermaltake M9 VI1000BWS Mid-Tower 420W Case w/ Side-panel Window
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133058
$65 ($50 w/rebate)
POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
$99.99
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773
$89.99
or
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Black Edition Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
$189.00
COOLING FAN : COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm Sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057
$44.99
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P AMD 790X CrossFire Chipset with PCIe slot DDR2 SATA RAID MB w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394, & 7.1Audio
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387
$109.99
MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory
G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209
$54.99 x 2 = $110
VIDEO CARD: - SAPPHIRE 100258-1GL Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102802
$149.99
HARD DRIVE: Boot drive: G.SKILL FM-25S2S-64GB 2.5" 64GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231220
$174.99
Data Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
$59.99
Optical Drive: (LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152
$24.99
Just like the look!
Extra Thermal Display : NZXT SEN-001LX Sentry LX Aluminum dual bay fan controller - Retail
Free card reader with purchase, ends 5/31
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811992004
$59.99
Lots of camera cards
Flash Media Reader/Writer: Rosewill RCR-102 52-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB port
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820223073
$12.99
Always feel like it is useful
FLOPPY: SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model SFD321B/LFBL1 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16821103203
$7.99
32 or 64 Bit ?
OS: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116488
$99.99
$1120 - $1,220 approximately (can trim up a bit but also am missing a few misc items like case frame for SSD 2.5" to 3.5" drive bay)
I understand I have a lot here already but want to give you guys all I know. I have built systems previously (back in the Athlon XP AMD days) so I have a little experience but this would be my biggest baddest rig so far with about a 4 year break in building.
So am I overdoing it a bit too much with the build , I know I could spend more but compared to my needs?
I have heard the Raptor 10k HDDs are the best right now but noisy and hot but have heard a few good things about the SSD drives. I have read that SSD only lags in write speed (when installing software, or write temp a/v data - which may slow my video editing and dvd writing but thought using the 500gb hdd b/u drive as the working writing location/drive for those programs temp files would help) I have also read a lot of good rigs in here use a 1TB 7200 rpm drive and suggested in here. So a little confused on the best for my needs.
I would rather not get a SSD if a 7200 RPM sata II 3.0 will be more than I can use (save the money and gain more space), not just for the instant like boot times either. Just looking to get Mozilla, War Craft III, Outlook 2007 working instantly all the time and Nero 7 not maxing out my CPU and slowing every other program running to a stop or retreat!
I will have the above programs along with a Anti Virus spyware program running. Nero 7 Ultra, PS Ilustr, divX, and a few other misc programs installed as well.
Would like to be able to surf web, work on editing A/V, listen to music and maybe even write a DVD at the same time (watch movie vs music) without missing a step. About the most active I think I could be on the computer at a given time.
I have read many rigs here and many suggested changes and you guys have great advice! So please help me with what I think is my own over-thinking madness, building gods! Thx ahead for any advise or opinions.