new build...5820k vs 6700k

[techkiller]

So i'm looking to upgrade my current build which is the following:

CPU: i5 3570k
Mobo: AsRock Z77 Extreme4
RAM: DDR3 GSkill Ripjaws
HD: Intel 250GB SSD w 1TB Seagate
Case: Corsair Vengence C70
Video: Geforce 560 Ti 2GB

So my main reason for upgrading would be because i really want to Even though i know i could just update my vid card and that would suffice.

I use the system mainly for: Gaming, Streaming video to my 4k TV, some encoding, and I use Winzip a TON.

I figure i can use my current case and HD.

I am very torn between getting the new Z170 chipset and a 6700k....or going to the 5820k....

I very much need your advice and expertise...is the new chipset and 6700k worth the extra $$?

Thanks

 

[techkiller]

i've read all the reviews and it seems that the 6700k finishes at the top most times for gaming tests....i know either processor would suffice...but what would you choose if you were doing an upgrade?

 

[Seamz]

The 6700K and the Z170 Chipset for what you're looking for. The 5820k has cores that go unused in most games. The 6700K uses 4 bigger cores which will excel in gaming scenarios. It won't be as quick with encoding and Winzip, but we're not talking huge differences. Here are some real world benchmarks which put the 6700k ahead in gaming by as much as 20 fps. Which is a lot to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHzg3YeE28A. The 6700K will also run hotter because of the core temps. Just get a decent closed loop water cooler and you should be good.

 

[Seamz]

I just read your addition. If you have the know how to overclock and you're comfortable with it. Then I'd get the 5820K and overclock it. I use the 5820K and I wouldn't get the 6700K unless I didn't know how to overclock or just knew how to setup XMP.

 

[techkiller]

The 6700K and the Z170 Chipset for what you're looking for. The 5820k has cores that go unused in most games. The 6700K uses 4 bigger cores which will excel in gaming scenarios. It won't be as quick with encoding and Winzip, but we're not talking huge differences. Here are some real world benchmarks which put the 6700k ahead in gaming by as much as 20 fps. Which is a lot to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHzg3YeE28A. The 6700K will also run hotter because of the core temps. Just get a decent closed loop water cooler and you should be good.

would the Noctua NH-D15 suffice for the 5820k if i would rather go with air cooling? If i eventually overclock? Or would i really be better going with like a corsair closed loop water cooling unit?

 

[techkiller]

I just read your addition. If you have the know how to overclock and you're comfortable with it. Then I'd get the 5820K and overclock it. I use the 5820K and I wouldn't get the 6700K unless I didn't know how to overclock or just knew how to setup XMP.

I'm guessing your recommending the 5820k because it's much more overclock-able than the 6700k?

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The 6700K and the 14nm process overclocks very well. Better than anything since Sandy Bridge. The 6700K is superior to the 5820K unless you need a workstation.

 

[filippi]

You should upgrade you gpu only. Or even upgrade both gpu and cpu.
Doing a cpu upgrade on a i5-3570k/Geforce 560 Ti gaming rig is a huge mistake.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

You should upgrade you gpu only. Or even upgrade both gpu and cpu.
Doing a cpu upgrade on a i5-3570k/Geforce 560 Ti gaming rig is a huge mistake.

^ That's really true. Get a 980 Ti, overclock the 3570K ( optional ) and max everything at 1440p.

 

[techkiller]

I do plan on upgrading to a 970 or 980 as well....sorry i didn't mention that in my original post

 

[techkiller]

I would love a 980 card....but they are kind of expensive...hovering around $500-$600....i'm thinking about going with a 970 which is more in my price range $300-400

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Get the 980 Ti and don't worry about a new CPU until next year or the year after. I'm still using a 2600K from January 2011 and I am thinking about a Skylake upgrade but mostly for the features of a Z170 motherboard over my old P67 setup than for any sort of perceived CPU performance gain. A 6700K at stock will be slightly faster than my 2600K at 4.5Ghz but the difference is small. Anyone with Sandy Bridge or later is more than good power wise. My 2600K and 980 Ti let me max everything at 1440p just fine.

 

[techkiller]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2466098

seems like a really good deal and it would keep me right around $1000....even if i upgrade to a 970 vid card

 

[Deleted member 217926]

It's up to you but in gaming that $700 upgrade will get you less than a 10FPS average increase over your 3570K. A $700 980 Ti will give you better than 100FPS over your 560 Ti and with higher settings. And obviously there is no bottleneck with a 980 Ti and your existing CPU.

 

[techkiller]

It's up to you but in gaming that $700 upgrade will get you less than a 10FPS average increase over your 3570K. A $700 980 Ti will give you better than 100FPS over your 560 Ti and with higher settings. And obviously there is no bottleneck with a 980 Ti and your existing CPU.

You make a very good point about the vid card being the bottleneck right now....but if i can upgrade the cpu and bump up to a 970....is there a huge difference between a 970 & 980?

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Upgrading the CPU is a nonissue in gaming performance. As I said above a new CPU gets you less than 10 FPS. The GTX 970 or 980 are huge upgrades for a 560 Ti. 970 vs 980.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1442?vs=1595

Basically the 970 is a great all around card. You can max almost everything at 1080p but with reduced AA and other eye candy in some titles. A 980 lets you truly max everything at 1080p including eye candy. Both cards will do decently at 1440p with the 980 being better of course. To max 1440p you need a 980 Ti.