New Build: Feels like i'm overspending

[g-unit1111]

The boards & the fact it was a brand new cpu gen were the issue with ram.

Bios updates solves this.

I'm 2 updates behind on my pro 4 with a Ryzen 1700.

Both ballistix 2666 & patriot viper 2800 run at 2933 rock solid stable.

The price difference is $50 with that microcenter combo, which is consider substantial really.

Micro Center is great but not knowing where the OP is that's not always a possibility. You have to go to the store to get those deals, they can't be bought online.

 

[Rocetmal]

The boards & the fact it was a brand new cpu gen were the issue with ram.

Bios updates solves this.

I'm 2 updates behind on my pro 4 with a Ryzen 1700.

Both ballistix 2666 & patriot viper 2800 run at 2933 rock solid stable.

The price difference is $50 with that microcenter combo, which is consider substantial really.

Micro Center is great but not knowing where the OP is that's not always a possibility. You have to go to the store to get those deals, they can't be bought online.

I am near a Micro Center which is the good news.

I'm a little worried about the R5 2600, as a lot of the boards from what I can tell might not ship with a BIOS that is compatible with the new chips. And how do you update the BIOS without a chip that it'll read... kind of a catch-22. In that sense, less of a headache to get the 1600, but I'd be a little sad inside if I didn't get something latest-generation since I don't upgrade much as it is.

 

[logainofhades]

B450 boards are available now, so no worries if you go with those.

 

[g-unit1111]

I am near a Micro Center which is the good news.

I'm a little worried about the R5 2600, as a lot of the boards from what I can tell might not ship with a BIOS that is compatible with the new chips. And how do you update the BIOS without a chip that it'll read... kind of a catch-22. In that sense, less of a headache to get the 1600, but I'd be a little sad inside if I didn't get something latest-generation since I don't upgrade much as it is.

Yes get an R5-2600 and a B450 board, don't get a last generation motherboard and try to pair it with a current gen CPU, it is something that I personally do not recommend.

 

[madmatt30]

I still say don't dismiss the Ryzen 1600 if you can do it significantly cheaper.

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Because without a 1080 & a 144htz screen Youre not going to see any difference.

Just because the 1600 has been superceded it doesn't mean it's not worth considering.

$50 saved can be spent on something else.

 

[Rocetmal]

I still say don't dismiss the Ryzen 1600 if you can do it significantly cheaper.

Because without a 1080 & a 144htz screen Youre not going to see any difference.

Just because the 1600 has been superceded it doesn't mean it's not worth considering.

$50 saved can be spent on something else.

While this is a good point, at MicroCenter the price difference is $10. For that small difference it seems like a no-brainer to get the 2600.

I just wish I could expand my mobo selection... while the 350 boards work, it's probably all but certain that the shipped BIOS won't support the 2600 chip and I can't flash it without a working CPU. Oh well.

 

[USAFRet]

The finite life of SSDs has be a bit worried. Yes, HDDs are slow, but you can rewrite almost infinitely. While I am an SSD newbie, a lot of sites indicate that the shelf life is only about 5 years.

Early death from too many writes was a concern with the first generation of consumer grade SSD's.
Many "tech writers" and BS artists on the web still glom on to that "fact".

With SSD's released in the last few years, lifespan is not really a concern. Unless you get a really cheap off brand.
That Samsung (or a Crucial MX500), will outlive the rest of the PC.
My eldest SSD is 6 years old of near constant use. Reporting 99% health. All my main systems are SSD only.

 

[Rocetmal]

Unrelated RAM question, but for the super helpful group of you who have been following this thread:

8GB enough? Is there a significant difference between 2133 vs 2400 vs 2666 speed?

Thanks guys!!

 

[bmockeg]

If going Ryzen, memory speed is more beneficial than Intel. If getting a B450 board then I would recommend 3200mhz. 8GB will work, some games may want more. I use 7GB regularly sometimes up to 10. 16GB is best if you can afford it.

 

[Rocetmal]

If going Ryzen, memory speed is more beneficial than Intel. If getting a B450 board then I would recommend 3200mhz. 8GB will work, some games may want more. I use 7GB regularly sometimes up to 10. 16GB is best if you can afford it.

B450 board that I am getting supports: DDR4 3200 O.C., 2933 O.C., 2667, 2400, 2133

Since the first two says OC, I will probably avoid. I'm not super familiar with overclocking yet, so I don't want to be forced to do it for the system to operate properly.

 

[bmockeg]

Its a profile you click in the bios. You aren't really overclocking as the RAM comes at 3200mhz. The CPU comes with a memory controller that supports 2933mhz. The motherboard just let's it run a bit higher. With a 2nd gen ryzen and,B450 you shouldn't have any issues.

 

[Rocetmal]

Its a profile you click in the bios. You aren't really overclocking as the RAM comes at 3200mhz. The CPU comes with a memory controller that supports 2933mhz. The motherboard just let's it run a bit higher. With a 2nd gen ryzen and,B450 you shouldn't have any issues.

Gotcha, thanks. Sounds easy.

Thinking I'll go with this RAM: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220976

And this Mobo: http://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/B450M_DS3H_AM4_mATX_AMD_Motherboard

 

[bmockeg]

RAM is fine. I'd spend $10 more and get this motherboard.

ASRock B450M Pro4 AM4 mATX AMD Motherboard

 

[Rocetmal]

RAM is fine. I'd spend $10 more and get this motherboard.

ASRock B450M Pro4 AM4 mATX AMD Motherboard

RAM is 3000 speed, mobo supports 2933. Pcpartpicker isn't flagging as a compatibility issue... any concern there?

 

[bmockeg]

No, it will run at 2933 automatically