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Approximate Purchase Date: I plan on purchasing parts over the next 2-3 weeks (depending on when the boss releases funds...boss meaning my wife)

Budget Range: My price range is between 1500 and 2000 for a completed machine, depending on extras (explained at end)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: This build will be used to process photographs using Adobe products, video editing, and streaming (Gaming rig from the PC and porting console streams through internal capture card)

Are you buying a monitor: If there is money left over, I will purchase a 4k capable monitor, but I own a decent monitor for now

Parts to Upgrade: I own a Dell 8500 XPS I can either donate to my kids (it crashes often) or I can steal parts from it to donate to new machine

Do you need to buy OS: Yes Windows 10 Pro with USB

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon (for Prime), New Egg but I will literally use any site that is reputable and offer full warranties

Location: Ellensburg, WA USA (find the middle of nowhere, and head more nowhere)

Parts Preferences: I want to build around the Ryzen 9 3900X, I do not understand how to match a motherboard and stuff to get optimal use, this will be my first build even though I understand how to do everything, and I have taken them apart and rebuilt, or changed out parts, I have never done it from scratch, so I am asking you guys for help.

Overclocking: Maybe - This makes me nervous, I have never done it, so further explanation would help me.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe - I do not understand the difference, and I am not ashamed to admit that.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments: Looking for some parts with RGB and a body that allows an open glass look, so I can run Red LED's and allow an over all appearance for the stream. I would like a quiet machine, that can handle plenty of large images for HDR work, video processing, and game streaming at a low competitive level. I play console so if it is better to have an internal or external capture card, I would like an opinion on that, but I will be streaming heavily to raise awareness and help prevent veteran suicide as I myself am a Disabled Veteran. I am not stuck on any part brands aside from Nvidia for the GPU and the Ryzen chip.
I appreciate all of the assistance from everyone who takes the time, you will be part of my foundational pieces in building my future stream to save veteran lives, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you, as I understand it takes time to do this, I have already spent hours looking around and feel like a lost child. I will attempt to answer questions as quickly as I can, and as honestly as I can, I am not ashamed of my ignorance, I have an IT degree, but it has been years of gathering dust due to my disabilities, times have changed LOL.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I can barely run WOW on the system that I have, most of the USB ports dont work, I have no sound, and it doesn't handle Windows 10, I am tired of crashing my computer every time I work on a photoshoot, and God Forbid if I try to edit a video.
As a side note, what GPU should I get to hold me over until I can find a 3070?
EXTRAS- I need a new gaming keyboard, and mouse. I need suggestions on a Mic and Camera as well- These can be outside of budget, but we can fit as much as we can INTO any extra part of the budget left. I will be playing COD MW, Fortnite, WOW, and other games.
 
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@Newtonius Thank you, you got everything in there for me... you rock. My migraine (fun disabled veteran side effect) makes me a little slow on the uptake LOL.

What about a body? (case)
Whoops, thought I added that. Here you go. Though this case is subjective, if you don't like the way it looks choose something that's an ATX size.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($484.00 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory...
Thank you so much friend! Ok, so I tried this myself. How does this look for the price? I added pro wiring because im lazy, LOL and the extra warranty, some minor upgrades like Windows Pro and adding CPU thermal compound-

But here is the build page- $2417 total - (I can spend more on Ram later, and get better keyboard and mouse later). I will just wait to buy the video thing for the PS4 streaming -

Gaming Chassis: CyberPowerPC NR640 High Air Flow Mid-Tower Gaming Case with Tempered Glass + 4x 120mm ARGB Fans (Black Color)
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X 3.7GHz [4.8GHz Turbo] 12 Cores/ 24 Threads 70MB Total Cache 105W Processor
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Thermaltake Water 3.0 120mm ARGB Sync Edition high performance CPU waterblock Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate [+45]
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: None
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P ATX w/ RGB, Realtek LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Crucial Ballistix Sport)
Video Card: [Extra 2 Weeks Lead Time] GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6 (Ampere) [VR Ready] (Single Card)
Video Capture Card: None
Power Supply: 750 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 Series 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Ultra Quiet Full Modular Power Supply
Primary Hard Drive: 500GB WD Blue SN550 PCIe NVMe + Seagate 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)
Freebie of Solid State Drive: None
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
WiDi Router: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 Dual Band, 2x2 2.4GHz, 5Ghz (160Mhz) + BT5.0 w/ PCI-E Adapter & Dual Antennas [+35]
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: CyberPowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
 
AIO 120mm won't cut it. 280mm or directly for the 360mm. This is a 12 cores CPU and a Ryzen 5000 CPU. It will get hot.

Motherboard is 260 dollars. Could go down to a B550 motherboard at around 200.

Using that motherboard money you change that RAM to 3600MHz CL16 2x16GB RAM Kit.

No idea of what model is that RTX 3070. Could be the cheapest one. Just saying.

Boot drive WD blue SN550. For a system at this price I would have expected something better like a 970 Evo.

Get 2 1TB SSD instead of a HDD. 1 good SSD for your boot drive and 1 like that SN550 for your secondary drive. You can always add more place later.

PSU is ok.
 
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A 5800x is almost as good as the 5900x, better in some respects (budget for one) because the lighter core workloads of most of Adobe don't take full advantage of the extra cores the 5900x supplies. Way ahead of anything Intel though for the price.

I'd not put a 120mm cooler on a 5900x, it's a 140w cooler on a cpu that'll hit its 142w power limits. Stock. You want to overcool Ryzens, get the temps low as you can keep them, preferably at 60°C or you start loosing boost clocks on individual cores.

I'd sacrifice the 5900x with that TT 3.0 for a 5800x and decent 240mm/280mm AIO, you'd not notice the difference, that 5900x would spend half it's time thermally throttling.
 
Thank you so much friend! Ok, so I tried this myself. How does this look for the price? I added pro wiring because im lazy, LOL and the extra warranty, some minor upgrades like Windows Pro and adding CPU thermal compound-

But here is the build page- $2417 total - (I can spend more on Ram later, and get better keyboard and mouse later). I will just wait to buy the video thing for the PS4 streaming -

Gaming Chassis: CyberPowerPC NR640 High Air Flow Mid-Tower Gaming Case with Tempered Glass + 4x 120mm ARGB Fans (Black Color)
Laser Engraving: None
Laser Engraving Message: None
Extra Case Fans: Default case fans
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X 3.7GHz [4.8GHz Turbo] 12 Cores/ 24 Threads 70MB Total Cache 105W Processor
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
CPU / Processor Cooling Fan: Thermaltake Water 3.0 120mm ARGB Sync Edition high performance CPU waterblock Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate [+45]
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: None
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P ATX w/ RGB, Realtek LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Crucial Ballistix Sport)
Video Card: [Extra 2 Weeks Lead Time] GeForce RTX™ 3070 8GB GDDR6 (Ampere) [VR Ready] (Single Card)
Video Capture Card: None
Power Supply: 750 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 Series 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Ultra Quiet Full Modular Power Supply
Primary Hard Drive: 500GB WD Blue SN550 PCIe NVMe + Seagate 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)
Freebie of Solid State Drive: None
Secondary Hard Drive: None
External Storage: None
WiDi Router: None
Internal Wireless Network Card: Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 Dual Band, 2x2 2.4GHz, 5Ghz (160Mhz) + BT5.0 w/ PCI-E Adapter & Dual Antennas [+35]
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Monitor: None
Cables: None
Speakers: None
Internal Network Card: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Keyboard: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: CyberPowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
  • Your CPU will fry or at least throttle back with that cooler.
  • 3000mhz. memory too slow for Ryzen 5000
  • Get an NVME with cache memory for OS drive like SS 970.
  • Clunker hard drive? What for? get another NVME or 2.5" sata SSD for storage.
  • Might want to look outside cyberpower for better keyboard and mouse.
 
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1560594-REG/lian_li_lancool2_x_lancool_ii_tempered_glass.html
Lian Li LANCOOL II Mid-Tower Case $99.99

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Semi-Modular-Systems-Warranty-Application/dp/B084TSDNKT/
Seasonic Focus GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular $94.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157998
ASRock H570 STEEL LEGEND $134.99

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-10700F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B086MN2XYL/
Intel Core i7-10700F $268.23

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PC-R1-Direct-Contact/dp/B07H22TC1N/
Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition CPU Air Cooler $38.99

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16U4B/dp/B083TSLDF2/
Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 $174.95

https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Pilot-Encryption-Internal-MKNSSDPE2TB-D8/dp/B07RF4DTR4/
Mushkin Pilot-E – 2TB PCIe NVMe SSD $214.99

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...DR6-12G-P5-3657-KR-Graphics-Card/284223392368
EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12GB GDDR6 $650.00

Total: $1,677

http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?3544160
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super Ventus $499.99

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1634...e-i710700k-review-is-65w-comet-lake-an-option

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H570 Steel Legend/index.asp


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfxuqjt38dA
 
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  • Your CPU will fry or at least throttle back with that cooler.
  • 3000mhz. memory too slow for Ryzen 5000
  • Get an NVME with cache memory for OS drive like SS 970.
  • Clunker hard drive? What for? get another NVME or 2.5" sata SSD for storage.
  • Might want to look outside cyberpower for better keyboard and mouse.
I agree on the cooler. big air or at least 240mm

the 3000 GHz ram is no biggie (he plans to replace with 64 gb of 3600), though in that cas a sinke 8gb stick will work
the ssd+hdd is a builder combo deal
a basic keyboard & mouse is fine
 
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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1560594-REG/lian_li_lancool2_x_lancool_ii_tempered_glass.html
Lian Li LANCOOL II Mid-Tower Case $99.99

https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Semi-Modular-Systems-Warranty-Application/dp/B084TSDNKT/
Seasonic Focus GM-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Semi-Modular $94.99

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157998
ASRock H570 STEEL LEGEND $134.99

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-10700F-Desktop-Processor-Graphics/dp/B086MN2XYL/
Intel Core i7-10700F $268.23

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-212S-20PC-R1-Direct-Contact/dp/B07H22TC1N/
Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition CPU Air Cooler $38.99

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16U4B/dp/B083TSLDF2/
Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 $174.95

https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Pilot-Encryption-Internal-MKNSSDPE2TB-D8/dp/B07RF4DTR4/
Mushkin Pilot-E – 2TB PCIe NVMe SSD $214.99

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...DR6-12G-P5-3657-KR-Graphics-Card/284223392368
EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12GB GDDR6 $650.00

Total: $1,677

http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?3544160
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Super Ventus $499.99

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1634...e-i710700k-review-is-65w-comet-lake-an-option

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H570 Steel Legend/index.asp


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfxuqjt38dA


My first initial gut reaction was... I am NOT buying a card for 3 its value from EBAY, but.... then I stopped being a turd and was like... this person just found an amazing solution. Thanks... I am going toh ave to think hard about this... this is pretty good idea. Do other's agree with this too? I know that i shouldn't use herd mentality, but... you guys are amazing. I appreciate all of you. (I use guys for male, female, and nonbinary, please do not feel judged or left out, i love all of whoever you are).
 
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@Why_Me Thank you again. I know this is more money, but what if I went with the original build (negating 95% of this thread, till you hoped in here LOL) and just got that card from ebay which... Sorry everyone, i never even thought about getting because... im old and dumb i guess.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($484.00 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.49 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Keyboard: Corsair K68 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Lenovo)
Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1519.19

That is the build that @Newtonius came up with... I really like this one, and I would love to work with it. That card is the same thing right? This is where all the letters and numbers get confusing to me, but
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...DR6-12G-P5-3657-KR-Graphics-Card/284223392368
EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12GB GDDR6 $650.00
is better because of 12GB? Anyway, I think if I add it to my build there, i get about $2200 which is my allotted amount...

Big shoutout to everyone, @ScrewySqrl I will be looking at all the stuff and learning more about how the different CPU's work, I appreciate you sharing that with me.
 
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I assume i would want a "gigabyte" version of the card for that motherboard? I am looking on ebay now cause... I was totally not even thinking about it, and i am sitting here eating a bowl of humble berry pie.
 
@Why_Me Thank you again. I know this is more money, but what if I went with the original build (negating 95% of this thread, till you hoped in here LOL) and just got that card from ebay which... Sorry everyone, i never even thought about getting because... im old and dumb i guess.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($484.00 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.49 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($139.88 @ Other World Computing)
Keyboard: Corsair K68 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($119.99 @ Lenovo)
Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO Wired Optical Mouse ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1519.19

That is the build that @Newtonius came up with... I really like this one, and I would love to work with it. That card is the same thing right? This is where all the letters and numbers get confusing to me, but
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeFor...DR6-12G-P5-3657-KR-Graphics-Card/284223392368
EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC GAMING 12GB GDDR6 $650.00
is better because of 12GB? Anyway, I think if I add it to my build there, i get about $2200 which is my allotted amount...

Big shoutout to everyone, @ScrewySqrl I will be looking at all the stuff and learning more about how the different CPU's work, I appreciate you sharing that with me.
That's a solid build ^^
 
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Thanks @Why_Me I changed the case and power to what you suggested, i am starting to like this a lot now... (put a bad word here) I might have to actually build something now. LOL
Everything is from that list except the power and the case - i chose yours. I am pulling the trigger on parts, and i will just hope i get a good ebay buy on the graphics card...
 
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That Lian-Li case is top of the list in many areas. It's not the best, per se, but it's overall puts it ahead of most any others on the market. Solid 8/10 across the board when other cases in that price range have 10/10 for some things but 2/10 for others.

Nobody really thinks about their heart. Face it, it just seems to always work, until it doesn't, but that's always years away. They never think that the heart has its hands in blood flow, intelligence, memory, brain function, organ function, breathing, temp control etc.

Same goes for a psu. Most think 'it's big enough so who cares' and don't think about the voltage control, protections, amperage, efficiency, longetivity, power outputs etc and buy a substandard for the pc psu. They don't realize that that POS they just bought is contributing to OC instability, loss of boost levels, lower fps, drive health, motherboard health, VRM capabilities, gpu outputs, gpu health, ram stability and a host of other things. They don't realize that POS is slowly killing their pc, until it does.

A good psu is not just recommended, it's essential. It's absolutely the single most important part of any pc. It's got direct attachments to everything inside. It's the difference between a 30yr old athlete dropping dead and a 90yr old great grandpa kicking your butt in chess.
 
That Lian-Li case is top of the list in many areas. It's not the best, per se, but it's overall puts it ahead of most any others on the market. Solid 8/10 across the board when other cases in that price range have 10/10 for some things but 2/10 for others.

Nobody really thinks about their heart. Face it, it just seems to always work, until it doesn't, but that's always years away. They never think that the heart has its hands in blood flow, intelligence, memory, brain function, organ function, breathing, temp control etc.

Same goes for a psu. Most think 'it's big enough so who cares' and don't think about the voltage control, protections, amperage, efficiency, longetivity, power outputs etc and buy a substandard for the pc psu. They don't realize that that POS they just bought is contributing to OC instability, loss of boost levels, lower fps, drive health, motherboard health, VRM capabilities, gpu outputs, gpu health, ram stability and a host of other things. They don't realize that POS is slowly killing their pc, until it does.

A good psu is not just recommended, it's essential. It's absolutely the single most important part of any pc. It's got direct attachments to everything inside. It's the difference between a 30yr old athlete dropping dead and a 90yr old great grandpa kicking your butt in chess.

So much truth thank you. I am a disabled veteran, i have seen people drop dead from abusing their "not powerful enough heart" so that term... worked. It makes sense. That was why I thought changing to what they suggested with that case (which i went and looked at and saw reviews and read some of what you are saying)... was the best idea. I think I have a good final build, I will post it all together as just a parts list for a final once over by anyone interested in looking, but I think I am good now.
 
Your brands do not need to match. Only real benefit is aesthetics matching.

When it comes to graphics cards, with such limited supply, get what is available.

Thanks, I heard somewhere that to get full potential they should match, but I dont buy to much into that... as long as it fits. LOL
 

A 5800x is almost as good as the 5900x, better in some respects (budget for one) because the lighter core workloads of most of Adobe don't take full advantage of the extra cores the 5900x supplies. Way ahead of anything Intel though for the price.

I'd not put a 120mm cooler on a 5900x, it's a 140w cooler on a cpu that'll hit its 142w power limits. Stock. You want to overcool Ryzens, get the temps low as you can keep them, preferably at 60°C or you start loosing boost clocks on individual cores.

I'd sacrifice the 5900x with that TT 3.0 for a 5800x and decent 240mm/280mm AIO, you'd not notice the difference, that 5900x would spend half it's time thermally throttling.
I just saw all of this... I am looking at it because the price saved can be sent somewhere else, and you are right, I am not doing massive loading on the system... and all of a sudden you guys woke my inner nerd up and I am really looking into things... which I would do before buying anyway, but now things feel like I am understanding and they are coming together. Overcooling a smaller CPU might be better anyway, the biggest load would be rendering graphics and video in the background while I tried to play Fortnite or something ROFLMAO... (yes I multitask in this way and its why I kill my computers), nobody has time for a 16GB photoshoot to upload from my sony gear, wait for my video to finish uploading... I want it all to go at once. ROFL
 
Well, you cannot overcool a cpu. Impossible to do. A cpu is going to have a certain amount of work to do, which creates heat. The cooler will absorb and transfer as much as its able to, but that heat is generated at the core, has to travel through the silicon, through the Tim, through the IHS, through the paste and finally hit the cold-plate where it heats up the liquid inside the heatpipes, travels as a gas to the top venting its wattage along the way. All of that takes time, but the temp sensor is inside the core, so gets a direct reading almost instantly.

An oversized cooler has better capacity for absorption, and hopefully better efficiency at dissipation, but combined they equal more cooling potential than the cpu can output. So the fans don't spin fast even under extreme loads over long duration. Makes for a quieter pc. Nobody really wants to sit next to a white noise speaker set to max.
 
Well, you cannot overcool a cpu. Impossible to do. A cpu is going to have a certain amount of work to do, which creates heat. The cooler will absorb and transfer as much as its able to, but that heat is generated at the core, has to travel through the silicon, through the Tim, through the IHS, through the paste and finally hit the cold-plate where it heats up the liquid inside the heatpipes, travels as a gas to the top venting its wattage along the way. All of that takes time, but the temp sensor is inside the core, so gets a direct reading almost instantly.

An oversized cooler has better capacity for absorption, and hopefully better efficiency at dissipation, but combined they equal more cooling potential than the cpu can output. So the fans don't spin fast even under extreme loads over long duration. Makes for a quieter pc. Nobody really wants to sit next to a white noise speaker set to max.

Yeah, "overcool" is an oversimplification of just saying getting one cool enough to stay in a state where it isn't causing fans to run at full capacity - but without all the paragraphs it takes to explain it. LOL
Do you have a paste that you like more than another?
 
For a cpu? Noctua, Gelid GC-Extreme, Prolimatech PK3, CM MasterGel Maker.

Thermal Grizzly is often touted as the best, and it might just be that, but there's more than a few threads that also say it has a bad habit of wearing off the laser etching on the IHS, which voids any warranty on the cpu. So I'm leary of using that or IC-Diamond, which is also very good, but does the same thing. Especially under aircoolers that can suffer vibrational force from fans and a lower pressure mounting system.
 
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Ok everyone. A friend will loan me a GPU until I can get one. How does this look? Using the 3900 I dont need a cooler as the stock is pretty decent, I dont plan to OC, and with what I am doing I am sure this is powerful enough... what are your thoughts.

The only thing lacking is RGB...




I think I can get the Motherboard cheaper on Amazon, I am going to look... Any reason I should change anything? This seems pretty damn solid to me, after all the reading and the information back and forth with everyone. It might be overkill on the power, but I can upgrade parts later and not need to upgrade power, and... I would rather have more than not enough.
 
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see if you can get a 7200 rpm spinny disk

you can probly get away with a b550 board...if you need wifi, try the ASRock Phantom Gaming AC B550, about $100 cheaper

the 750w psu should be good up to a rx 6900/rtx 3080

what is the loaner gpu, out of curiousity?
Ok, I will keep looking, mostly it’s gonna be photo storage but speed is good! 😂

it is a Raedeon RX 570. So I can play wow for a few months, do my photo job, then when market allows I can get a 3080 at market price (fingers crossed) at that point I can play cod MW.

if I get 550 board and want to upgrade chip later (I start doing heavy load digital/video editing and stuff) would it be a problem? To me the numbers said this chip would fit me fine, but I didn’t know what to do on board. 3200 was right on Ram right? Should I light it up?
 
Figured I would update everyone with what I got-
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor
ASUS Prime B550-PLUS
32 GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200
Seasonic Focus Plus 750 Platinum
Sabrent 1TB Rocket NVMe 4.0 Gen4 PCIe M.2 Internal SSD Extreme Performance Solid State Drive with Heatsink
Lian Li Mid Tower
Seagate Ironwolf 8 TB

So my only issue ended up being I have no Bluetooth - so I need suggestions on fixing that. ASIDE from that, it is running perfectly, quietly, and ready to go when i get a GPU. Right now I am using a borrowed RX570 which is doing the job for my work.
Thank you everyone for the help in picking out my parts and stuff. I will send a pic if anyone is interested but it is pretty boring without lights LOL. (the memory and the cpu fan are lit up)