New Build for GTX 1070 (Motherboard/CPU/RAM)

[Reizo]

About 6 months ago decided to upgrade my factory PC with a new GPU and since it was the first time I got in contact with single components I informed myself on how everything works together and where bottlenecks might result. So the result is, that I got a KFA2 GeForce GTX 1070 EX and a new Corsaire RM550x PSU only since I was told the remaining components would suffice the new GPU.

However I experienced that that was not the case. Actually I couldn't tell a huge difference in some games at all, so I'm gonna upgrade my whole build now.

So her comes the actual 'problem':
I'd like to get a new Motherboard, CPU and RAM built 'around' the GTX 1070 and suffice standards for gaming for the next several years. However, even after I informed myself a lot in various ways, I feel (and am) very inexperienced in assembling components so I require your help to build a new build.

What I do need:
- Intel-CPU (which offers the 'best' value for money at the moment?)
- Motherboard with M.2 SSD slot and DDR4 (which is compatible with given CPU?)
- 16 GB of DDR4 (which vendors are reliable?)
- Suffent cooling (I have no clue about anything concerning that topic)
- a case that fits all these IF it won't fit in my current 18x42x44cm case.
- VR capabilities (should be granted anyway, then)

What I don't need:
- possibilities to overclock.
- fancy LEDs

Minor preferences:
- power saving
- no water cooling (just because I haven't figured out what'd be the advantage yet, but you might convince from the opposite!)

I mainly use this PC for videogames like Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed and Whatsdogs and I'd like to experience them as best as possible. I'd like to have a build that suffices for the next several years. Also I plan to get into the VR business soon so that' s a matter as well.

I hope you could figure out what I am looking for and I already thank you for reading this. thread.

 

[Cdog042501]

I5 7600k
Z270 (depends on build color)
Corsair kingston crucial are good brands to check into
For gooling a cryorig h7 or hyper 212 evo
Case depends on preference

 

[GamingEnthusiast420]

whats your budget for all of these parts?
As for your questions:
1: Many ram vendors are reliable, mainly Corsair, G.Skill, Adata, Avexir, Crucial and Kingston
2: Air cooling will suffice, but water cooling is the best bet for now. If you don't want to mess with custom loops, you can easily get a closed pre-made loop.

As for the PC:
CPU: i5-6600K. The best combination to go with a 1070. Very powerful, and overclockable if you wish to get into overclocking in the future.
Cooling: I chose the Deepcool Captain 120EX. Its a closed water loop with a 120mm radiator easily capable of cooling your CPU and any other chip you throw at it.
Motherboard: MSI Z270 Gaming Pro carbon. Its a Z270 board that has tons of options and is compatible with next-gen KabyLake CPUs if you want a better chipset.
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000. Its fast and its 16GB, and from a reliable vendor.
Case: NZXT S340 Elite: Tons of space and super good looking


Good luck

 

[geofelt]

If you plan on reusing your case, what size is it?
M-ATX will have 4 expansion slots, ATX will have 7.


Not knowing your budget, a good rule of thumb for a balanced gamer is to budget 2x the cost of the cpu for the graphics card.
That puts your cpu budget at around $200.
That will buy you a I5-7600k. A very good chip, even at stock.
Since you do not want to overclock, you can use a B250 based motherboard. Most any will do, subject to the size required by your case.
However consider that a simple overclock using a Z270 motherboard can gain you some 25% more cpu performance, I would spend a bit more for a Z270 motherboard up front.

You will need a cooler for a "K" processor.
A simple tower type cooler with a 120mm fan is all you need.
I like the scythe kotetsu for around $35.
Here is a review:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Scythe_Kotetsu

On ram, they are all reliable and will have lifetime warranties.
I have used g.skil, corsair, Kingston, patriot.

Buy a 2 x 8gb kit of 1.2v DDR4 2400 speed.
There is little value in faster ram.
Access the ram vendor ram selection app and enter your motherboard.
You will get a list of supported kits.
Buy low profile ram which will not interfere with coolers.
Fancy tall heat spreaders are useless.

Do plan on a ssd for the build.
Make it 240gb at least.
M.2 is a size spec. About the size and shape of a stick of gum.

You can get a sata based ssd which performs like a standard 2.5" ssd.

Or, some motherboards have a slot for a pcie X4 m.2 device like the Samsung 960 pro that will have 4x the sequential speeds.
That is not as great as it sounds since windows does mostly small random I/O.

My canned rant on liquid cooling:
------------------------start of rant-------------------
You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
I would support an AIO cooler only in a space restricted case.
-----------------------end of rant--------------------------

Your pc will be quieter, more reliable, and will be cooled equally well with a decent air cooler.

 

[Reizo]

Wow, thanks for the many fast and informative answers, really!
Since geofelt was most extensive I'll mainly comment on his recommendations, however other reactions are still welcome.
I don't have a strict limitation, everything you named so far is bearable.

If you plan on reusing your case, what size is it?
M-ATX will have 4 expansion slots, ATX will have 7.

Since it's the manufacturer's 'custom' case all additional information I could get about the case are these:
Case - Form faktor:
Midi Tower
Dimensions:
18 cm - 42 cm - 44 cm
Typ:
Personal-Computer
Case - Model description:
TERRA Midi-Tower PC605
Full-Size ATX Format

(It fits an ASUS B85M-E Motherboard right now (24.4 cm x 21.3 cm), if that helps in any way.)

Since you do not want to overclock, you can use a B250 based motherboard. Most any will do, subject to the size required by your case.
However consider that a simple overclock using a Z270 motherboard can gain you some 25% more cpu performance, I would spend a bit more for a Z270 motherboard up front.

What does Z270 and B250 generally mean? I don't think it's just about overclocking, is it? Would it make a major difference in price?
GamingEnthusiast420's recommended MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon seemed like a good choice for me, though.

You will need a cooler for a "K" processor.
A simple tower type cooler with a 120mm fan is all you need.
I like the scythe kotetsu for around $35.

For gooling a cryorig h7 or hyper 212 evo

These coolers are quite tall compared to my current cooler since they move the air parallel to the motherboard. My current one is perpendicular to the motherboard (and thus exactly opposite of some ventilation slits). Could you recommend any like these since they would rather fit in my current case or is there a resaon they're not practical?

Do plan on a ssd for the build.
You can get a sata based ssd which performs like a standard 2.5" ssd.

Or, some motherboards have a slot for a pcie X4 m.2 device like the Samsung 960 pro that will have 4x the sequential speeds.
That is not as great as it sounds since windows does mostly small random I/O.

Yes, I was not interested in a SATA SSD but a M.2 SSD.
Does PCIe x4 M.2 mean there are 4 slots that can all be used by the same SSD? Would a x4 M.2 SSD also fit a motherboard with x2 'only', like mentioned MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon? (The compatiblity of different forms of M.2 isn't quite comprehensible for me.)

Concerning RAM all your answers seemed like I couldn't go wrong with any common brand.

Edit: I shortened this post a bit so it's less a wall of quotes (it still is, but less).

 

[GamingEnthusiast420]

Yes, a 7600K will be fine.
I fashioned a part list based on what you said you are looking for and what you have.
I left out storage, graphics cards, OS, and a power supply.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fWZrnn

Main theme is black/red, with fully RGB motherboard LEDs
Note: I know that you said that you don't want LEDs, but that motherboard has a lot of other features that you will want and it will be compatible for a kaby-lake CPU upgrade in the future (Not that you'll need it, the 7600K is a great chip)

 

[Reizo]

Yea I'd probably go with this build, I actually ordered the i5-7600K already.
However I'd like to know if there's an air cooling solution that could fit into my current case.

Also it'd be nice if you could clarify the thing about the Z270 and B250 and the M.2 SSD 'slots'.

 

[GamingEnthusiast420]

Yea I'd probably go with this build, I actually ordered the i5-7600K already.
However I'd like to know if there's an air cooling solution that could fit into my current case.

Also it'd be nice if you could clarify the thing about the Z270 and B250 and the M.2 SSD 'slots'.

Ok.
Z270 and B250 boards are 2 series boards, which are supposed to fit Kaby Lake CPUs. They supposedly have better features for better, as well as extreme upgradability.
As for SSD Slots, its the space designated for a standard M.2 SSD.