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this is my first build so i am a TOTAL noob at this.

What I'm thinking
AMD Phenom 955/655 (not sure which is better, same price) - $90
AM3+ Mobo 990x (ASrock) - $130 but with free 8gb ram (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157281)
GTX 560 Ti - $159 with rebate
I have no idea what PSU
Cooler Master HAF 912 (not sure about htis one either) - $50
standard optical drive - $10-20

Could someone tell me if this would make a good build for mostly editing in adobe premiere pro and after effects, with a little gaming on the side (BF3, skyrim, tf2, bfbc2, a bunch of othergames)? Would I benefit from a more expensive processor like the AMD 8 cores or an intel i5? I want the GTX 560 for the CUDA support, and because the TI version is available for only $160. I am thinking the 990x mobo because it has support for up to 32gb of ram, so I can upgrade to that in the future If I need that much (i've talked to a bunch of people who say after effects and 3d rendering can chew through ram really fast). Is there another option that is better for the money? Also could someone recommend a good case for a noob like me? This is my first build, and I'd like one with a good amount of cooling built in, and maybe a good amount of space so I can expand and fit more into it.

Would I be better off going on the intel boat? Pls someone reply.
 
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i5 Would preform better in both GAMES and Rendering bro :) the Rig you see infront of you (BUILD 3) can play BF3 MAXED SETTINGS on 50~+ FPS SOLID and its better than an AMD fx 8cores but if you can't buy it right now just go with the FX 8 cores and get the I5 in the future by the way please get the I5 K SERIES so you can overclock it in the future and make sure if you get an i5 K series to get an cooler master evo 212 to get the heat of it and i do recommend overclocking because if you overclock lets say in 1year than you can keep the i5 for 3-4 more years but on the other hand if you don't overclock it it would be useless in 2/3 years max :/
 
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Here is bench comparing GTX560 with GTX660. <a http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/543?vs=660 /a>
and for GTX560Ti vs GTX660. <a http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/547?vs=660 /a>

For video editing, using Adobe CS6, 8 core Piledriver will slightly beat i5, in some processes, but the overall performance difference won't be huge. It's a few % less time.
In gaming, even a locked i5 will well beat 8 core AMD. An overclocked i5 (i5-3570K) will beat it, by some distance.

On your builds. If your are using a locked i5, suggest ASRock H77 Pro4-M, for mobo. The B75 is more a business board, with legacy support for old systems.
If you use the i5-3570K, you should use a Z77 board, like ASRock Extreme3, or Extreme4. Don't forget, you would then need a cooler, suggest CoolerMaster Hyper 212Evo.
 
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What would be the best system for like $600? I kind of want to get the 6300 or 8120 or whatever, just to have those extra cores, but then again maybe a good i5 for $50 more (or like 80 more w/e) would be better. That gtx660 for $200 looks really good. Would a amd 8 core work well with this? Now that I think about it, that motherboard you linked with the i5 was only like 50 bucks compared to the amd mobo which was like $80. Maybe the money I save going for the cheaper intel mobo would let me get the more expensive i5 cpu.
Would this case be good?
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1351719349&sr=8-3&keywords=cooler+master+case
 
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You can't use a H77 mobo with i5-3570K, as it won't allow you to overclock CPU, so there's no point. If you can get the 8 core with it's extras, like more expensive mobo and cooler, AND have funds to get decent graphics card, that may be the way to go. Maybe slightly better in video work, than i5-3570K, not a huge ammount behind it, in gaming, if using decent GPU, and probably works out cheaper than i5-3570K.
On the other hand, if going with 8core, would force you to go with rubbish GPU, I'd say go with the cheaper 3450, or 3470 (3470 possibly better value), and a H77 mobo, plus you don't need cooler. It's not far behind, the other two, plus if it means you can get a better GPU, it's probably the best option.
 
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Would the FX8120 -$140
the GTX 560 - $140 (or the Ti for $160 or the 660 for $200)
am3+ 990x + 8gb ram - $130 for the two
Cooler master HAF 912 - $50
cooler master cooler thing for the cpu which is $20 (forget the name its like 212 or something 121 22

would this be good? The gtx 560 is not a rubbish gpu, or so i've heard... Keep in mind i will be doing mostly video editing. What is the best option (but not the most epxensive, just hte best value) for motherboards with the intel i5s? Also, the price in i5 only differs by like $20-30 between lowest end and highest end (or am i wrong? I just looked up a couple ones i saw on benchmarks the 3750 was most expensive i think, idk. I'll be keeping the same HDD and hopefully transfering windows to the new computer as i will not be using the old one (so i'll call customer support, as if the motherboard broke in the old computer or whatever)
 
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This is your issue.

A build, using i5-3470
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($174.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $594.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

A build using Piledriver
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.22 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($174.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($69.33 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $712.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

It's a pain to go back in and change it, but occurs to me, with GTX560Ti, first build needs at least 500w PSU. XFX 550w is probably ideal, adding $15.
 
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It wasn't a mistake using FX-8350 in above build. That's what you've got to go to, to get any REAL benefit over i5. The FX-8120, in most respects, is well BEHIND i5, so no point, as it would also end up more expensive (build and running cost)
 
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Running cost? You mean like power usage?
 
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Also the 8120 vs 8150. is it just thr 50 one comes overclocked at a higher speed or will the 50 one actually be different/faster? I heard it was only like a 15% boost from the bulldozer 8 cores to the newer piledriver ones, so like $140 - 180 is a 15% boost in preformance... That doesn't seem like it should matter too much, just the newer one is a bit faster/better. That $150 i5 does kind of catch my eye though. If only intel just bought amd and i wouldn't have to decide. lol
 
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Running cost, yes, power consumption. AMD is about 50w more. Doesn't sound a lot, but you'd be surprised how quickly that would have paid the extra, for i5-3570K.
It all comes down to where the priorities lie. It's very difficult to do an accurate comparason, because Intel and AMD have different strengths, and weaknesses. It's a horrible generalisation, but, price for price AMD will give slightly better performance in video work, and Intel will give slightly more advantage, in gaming. Also bear in mind, in video work, we're talking about processing times; in gaming, we're talking framerates, and "smoother" gameplay.
 
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Does anyone know what the real difference between the various fxs is? Like is the 8150 really worth the extra money over the 8120, and is the 8350 worth it over the 8320? I thought they were basically the same when they're both overclocked, but i might be wrong. Is the newest fx generation worth the extra $40 ish?
 
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I have not seen reliable comparasons between the FX81xx's. I "suspect" they are roughly equal value: I also suspect that, OVERALL, they wouldn't be a real improvement on i5-34xx. The 8350 is a step foreward, but NOT if it comes at the expense of having to "reduce" graphics. What you'd lose, in gaming, would be far more, than any gains, in video. Personally, AT THE BUDGET, I think i5-3470+decent graphics, is your best option, unless you can go up to 8350 AND keep decent graphics.
That's just MY opinion. A lot depends on how much you want to prioritise super video editing performance, over gaming.
 
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What is the best i5 to get? Would the newest 3750k be best? It's $220. Do they have one for like $160 or so? I definitely don't want a dual core i3. If I got the older FX 8 core 8120 bulldozer instead of piledriver, i could invest $80 bucks more into a graphics card that i would have invested into the i5 for $220. Would that not be best? Or should i get the newer 6 core fx 6300? You say the 8350 would be better than the older ones, is it worth it to get it for like $180 versus the older ones for $140? Or over the 6 core for $140?
 
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just decide m8 these guys are trying to help you but your not making any decisions , and about the amd 6 core processor or even a 20 core any intel i5 with it's 4 cores can kick the amd's cpu ass you can get the 2500 non k or the 3450 and it will be better than any cpu in your budget comparing it with amd cpu's. (actually i think that really amd is fooling the customers with their fake cores ) like how can an i3 kick's ass an amd cpu with 4 or 6 cores common..
 
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your CPU is fine you don't need more than an i5 for gaming and that stuff and the 660 could run almost any games maxed out and the i5-3750K is overclockable so if you are getting that i really advice you to get a CPU cooler with it probably get a cooler master evo 212 but thats only my opinion.And the i5 is THE BEST GAMING CPU you can find out there 😉
 
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So i'd be better off with a 660 and a cheaper amd fx than getting an i5 and gtx560 (same price for both, +60-80 for i5, +50-60 for 660.)
Also, I saw some comparisons with different cases, and oculd someone recommend me a good one that has good cooling built in, thats not like 100 bucks +?
The cooler master i selected doesn't have that much cooling built in or it seems not to? Would this be better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107
 
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Like with most things, you get what you pay for, in cases. As long as you get reasonable quality, it's not difficult to add or swap fans around, to improve ventilation. If you get a case that only has one fan supplied, ideally that wants to be an INPUT (helps stop dust getting in). The Antec One, mentioned above, is a reasonable low cost case. Something like Antec 300 Two, or Illusion, or Corsair Carbide 300R are nice, but more expensive.
 
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