[SOLVED] New build help please.

[Nuruize]

Hi, i'm wanting to build a new PC but i'm not to clued up when it comes to picking the right/best parts etc so if people could help that would be awesome!

My main use for the PC will be for playing MMOS like FFXIV and WoW and latest games/AAA Titels like CoD at 1440p 60fps however I would eventually like to get a 1440p 144hz monitor.


I've put a build together already if you could look at it please and tell me if it is ok/good enough or if there is any parts you would maybe change?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KtZHBZ

Thankyou

 

[boju]

Build is v.good besides those ssd's. Unknown brand afaik and for a little more can go for Crucial.

If your willing to go water, just remember, pumps don't last forever like conventional heatsinks do. You're looking between 2~maybe 4 years before pump fail / and or pump blade metallic corrosion and potential leaks. 9700k is easily cooled by air and tbh, safer, longer lasting and less maintenance.

Suggestion build. Similar to yours with changes made to ssd's and cooling.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£319.94 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 64.95 CFM CPU Cooler (£66.44 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 D ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£94.48 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Team T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£143.26 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£96.78 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£96.78 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card (£658.92 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case (£78.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£156.84 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (£99.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1811.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 12:14 GMT+0000

 

[Nuruize]

Sweet thanks for that! Question, would you change the intel cpu to a ryzen one, i've heard mixed people saying ryzen is better and others saying intel

 

[boju]

Intel is better at higher refresh rates if you intend to go 144Hz in future but not by much.

An x570 with Ryzen 3600x or 3700x.

It's a tough call. Id probably go 9700k personally.

 

[Nuruize]

Ok thanks and in regards to the memory, would you stick to the : Team T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory or change it for

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

and keep the Gigabyte Z390 D ATX LGA1151 Motherboard or change it to

Asus PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard Or completely different parts all together. i'm completely open to full changes suggested by someone more clued up about this stuff like yourself

 

[boju]

Change to Asus Prime and keep the ram. You'll have more fun with 32GB ram vs 400MHz difference in speed. Nowadays, 16GB is becoming borderline 'enough'.

 

[boju]

Actually

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...us-pro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z390-aorus-pro

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[Nuruize]

or

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

?

 

[boju]

That's good too, or this one

ASRock Z390 Extreme4

ASRock Z390 Extreme4 reviews, pros and cons. Liked: Desirable theme/styling Includes RGB features Disliked: We expect more USB ports on rear panel

www.techspot.com

There are so many. The above gets a good review. I think it's time for some homework 😉

Build quality and decent voltage regulator modules (vrm) would be good bullet points to begin.

 

[Nuruize]

would you keep the crucial ssds or change them to samsung evos?

 

[boju]

Samsung are well known for performance and reliability and so is Crucial. The MX line is very decent.

You could go an Pcie Nvme SSD card too.

 

[Nuruize]

and the psu, would you change it to an evga supernova gold certified one or keep the seasonic one

 

[boju]

The psu you picked out i was impressed. Wouldn't change it.

 

[Nuruize]

Awesome thanks alot, so i just need to decide on a motherboard then

I'll stick with the crucial ssds because I don't know what you mean by a Pcie Nvme SSD card. I'm really not that clued up when it comes to PC parts at all

And probably change the case to a full tower instead of mid maybe

 

[boju]

Looking into it, the case you had picked is ok. Doesn't look like it comes with a rear fan, possibly no top either, im not sure. Might have to buy those fans separately looking at the site specs for fan size.

https://www.pccasegear.com/products...9WUlE9gn2yAoXI5cH5nZJ47sZHkyE4WhoCpL0QAvD_BwE

And this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6...hify-c-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko-tg

It is very important to have good air flow. Front intakes for cool air and exhaust warm air out the rear & top.

 

[Nuruize]

OK thanks! I'll go for one of those 2 then, probably the first one you linked. All that's left is picking a motherboard I think

 

[boju]

You're welcome. Shouldn't take long picking a mobo. Most should be fine but always good to look at reviews.

 

[Nuruize]

What is it that I should be looking for when picking a mobo? Usually I just pick one that's compatible with my parts without looking at the specs of the mobo etc

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (£289.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard (£164.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£66.78 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£99.99 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card (£1025.93 @ Box Limited)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case (£68.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£95.32 @ More Computers)
Total: £1911.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-10 14:53 GMT+0000

This is more suitable build for 1440p gaming.
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[Nuruize]

Well that is completly different, thanks a lot both of you. How come 16gb memory and not 32gb? Also am I doing it right with the 2 ssds? One is just for Windows, the other one will be for my games thats it.

And that ryzen build is better than the Intel one then? All I will be doing is playing games, discord, watching twitch and listening to music on YouTube. Nothing else

 

[King Dranzer]

Well that is completly different, thanks a lot both of you. How come 16gb memory and not 32gb? Also am I doing it right with the 2 ssds? One is just for Windows, the other one will be for my games thats it.

And that ryzen build is better than the Intel one then? All I will be doing is playing games, discord, watching twitch and listening to music on YouTube. Nothing else

I would use one drive for Windows and Gaming and other for storage. To be honest I would use two 1TB HDDs in RAID1 for storage. But as that is bit of a setup and many don't really care for storage you can have 1TBGB for gaming and Windows and second 1TBGB for storage. If you really want your storage content to be safe and secure and not be lost on failure. I recommend 2 x 1TB HDDs in raid 1 instead of 1TB SSD. Remember 2 x 1TB HDDs in RAID 1 will give you only 1TB of storage but if one drive fails the entire content will be safe on second one.

16GB of RAM is enough for 90% of regular usage. And spending higher amount of RAM while compromising on performance is waste.

Ryzen 7 3700X and RTX 2080 Ti combo will give you around 35% performance improvement over i7-9700K and RTX 2080 Super on average. At 1440p that will give you way better gaming experience.

 

[brokeBuilder2019]

What is it that I should be looking for when picking a mobo? Usually I just pick one that's compatible with my parts without looking at the specs of the mobo etc

Apart from compatibility,

Cooling - Look at how many fan headers it has (i.e. connectors to power and control your case fans).

Data ports/connectors (USB, SATA, M.2) - Look at how many front/rear USB ports it offers, for instance. I've noticed that MSI, ASUS, and Gigabyte generally differ in this regard, from my browsing. Some SATA connectors share PCI lanes with M.2 slots. Check to see that for your drives, this will not cause any conflicts. Also keep in mind wanting to add more drives in the future. Does your mobo have enough connectors/slots for future expansion/upgrade ?

VRM (i.e. steady power supply) - From what I saw, Gigabyte does best in this regard. This is more important for high end CPUs like yours.

For all of the above, look at product pictures (on the retailer's website) and consult the motherboard manual. Flip through the manual's pages, to make sure that your motherboard is really going to accommodate all your needs.

Also make sure your mobo supports Intel 9th gen CPUs out of the box (i.e. without a BIOS update). Mobo's may say they support 9th gen Intel but may not explicitly state that a BIOS update is required. BIOS updates can be tricky and if you get them wrong, they can leave you with an unusable motherboard. You can check for this by consulting the mobo manufacturer's product page.