Build Advice New build to replace an i7 930 system

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Greetings all,

Approximate Purchase Date:
August, 2010

Budget Range:
< 1000 after rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
Practicing and recording music with Audacity, Pro Tools and MUseScore with a Focusrite 2i2, while watching instructional videos, Microsoft Office products, surfing the internet.

Are you buying a monitor:
No

Parts to Upgrade:
Motherboard
CPU & a cooler
Video card
Memory
HDD (if I am building, I would like to go SSD)

Do you need to buy OS:
Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
Amazon
Newegg

Location:
Montana

Parts Preferences:
I have had good luck with the current Asus Motherboard, so I am partial.

Overclocking:
No

SLI or Crossfire:
No

Your Monitor Resolution:
1920 x 1080

Additional Comments:
My current system is very quiet. I would like to keep it that way.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
I built a system in 2010 for Photoshop, casual gaming, watching videos, and surfing the internet. It has performed flawlessly, in fact it handled Photoshop like a dream.

But, times change. I have changed careers. I no longer use Photoshop, and I don’t game on it anymore. For several years, I only used it for casual surfing, banking, and keeping photos.

For the last couple years, I have been using it primarily for playing and recording music via Audacity and Pro Tools. This is just a hobby. I am learning to play bass guitar. This system allows me to watch instructional videos and record what I play for later review. For that, I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 to input audio. It is operating smoothly and handling the workload just fine.

However, I am getting the warning that I need to upgrade to Win11, but cannot because the motherboard\CPU don’t comply.

This computer has served\is serving me very well. It has plenty of processor to do what I need. The best case scenario would be to just somehow get Win11 to work on it. But since it is 14 years old, I wouldn’t mind replacing it.

I am stuck between buying an off the shelf system (note: I am laptop-opposed) or upgrading what I have. The system I built was with the thought of potentially upgrading as necessary, hence the nice full tower case and big PSU.

I hate the thought of an off the shelf system. I like building systems because it is fun, though this one was the last one I did.

I love my HAF X case. It is huge, but not taking up much-needed space. It was super easy to build my current system in it. I have had several other mid-tower cases over the years, but they all had drawbacks. My biggest complaint is that the current system will heat my office. In the summer, that can be a pain. But with A/C, I can keep the room at 77° or so.

Current system:
Case:
Coolermaster HAF X


Motherboard:
Asus P6X58D Premium

Power Supply:
Zalman ZM750-HP 750w

CPU:
Intel core i7 930 2.8 GHz quad core

Memory:
2Gx3|CORSAIR CMP6GX3M3A1600C8
I have since replaced this with (3) G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) Desktop Memory, 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM

CPU cooler:
ZALMAN|CNPS10X

Video card:
ATI Radeon HD 4870 1GB
This was replaced by an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti that a friend gave me

Monitors:
(2) - Asus VH236H via DVI

Primary HDD:
WD Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0

Secondary HDD:
WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 ATA 1 TB

Tertiary HDD
External Seagate 2 TB SSD USB I use as a backup drive.

CD/DVD:
ASUS 24x DRW-24B1ST SATA CD\DVD Burner

I would like to reuse my case, power supply (unless it is suggested I replace it due to age), CD\DVD burner, external SSD HD, and monitors\keyboard\mouse.

I am thinking I could probably sell the mobo\CPU\HDDs to someone locally that is into building systems and doesn't mind it cannot run Win11.
 
Yes, new power supply.

HAF X is still a decent case.

X58 motherboards do command a bit still just because there are some people that want working boards. There are Chinese refurb boards out there that added modern features like NVMe though.

I think a RTX 3060 + a decent 8 core CPU will do.
 
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Thanks for the input everyone!

Back in the day when I built my current system, the general consensus was that you should have a dedicated HDD solely for the operating system, then an additional HDD for all your other software. I went a step further and had a third used for storage only; photos, music, documents, etc.
Is that still the norm? With the SSD HDDs being so cheap now, I wouldnt mind continuing that practice. I like that the Gigabyte board has the 3 slots M.2 slots. I was thinking I would only need a 500 MB for the primary, then a 1 TB as a secondary.
(Side note, I didnt know the SSD drives mounted right on the board. That is pretty cool. This is what happens when you dont follow the tech for 10 years, lol)
 
It can make things easier for backup purposes. Either is really acceptable. Applications you use frequently can go on the OS drive.

I really consider 1TB to be the minimum worth getting. 512GB drives are not half the cost. The larger memory pool also usually results in better performance and certainly more endurance.

SATA SSDs still make decent backup drives, but also 6-8TB hard drives aren't that expensive any longer.
 
Thanks for the input everyone!

Back in the day when I built my current system, the general consensus was that you should have a dedicated HDD solely for the operating system, then an additional HDD for all your other software. I went a step further and had a third used for storage only; photos, music, documents, etc.
Is that still the norm? With the SSD HDDs being so cheap now, I wouldnt mind continuing that practice. I like that the Gigabyte board has the 3 slots M.2 slots. I was thinking I would only need a 500 MB for the primary, then a 1 TB as a secondary.
(Side note, I didnt know the SSD drives mounted right on the board. That is pretty cool. This is what happens when you dont follow the tech for 10 years, lol)
Splitting the OS and applications on different drives gives no real benefit.

OS and applications on one drive, other drives for storage.

Games like Steam content can go on other drives as well.
But the Steam client, and all your other applications...on the same drive with the OS.
 
I would do a separate SSD for os and one for storage/games. As you are not gaming, a 3060 really isn't necessary either. As you are not gaming, the 3060 I don't think is really necessary. Even if you were gaming, the RX 6600 is faster and cheaper.

I went APU route, on AM5. Still worlds better than what you have now, with an upgrade path, should your needs change in the next couple years or so, as AM5 has support through 2027, and possibly longer than that.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8700G 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($254.98 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B850 Pro RS ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland Performance Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Inland Performance Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM650 (2023) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Corsair)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $967.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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10 years from now an RTX 3060 might still be viable was my thinking. Kind of the poor man's workstation card. Easiest part to replace in the future though, so an RX6600 wouldn't be terrible either. Don't think I would recommend Intel just yet for workstation tasks.

I did look at an AM5 version, but I would have leaned more towards a 7700, but that put me well over $1100.

Given the length of time, motherboard upgradeability is not that critical.
 
Looking into the IGP of the non APU chips, I would say it is probably adequate for what they are currently doing. As mentioned GPU is an easy upgrade later. Given how long they keep their system, I would probably consider a 12 core model instead. I removed Windows from the list, to get better hardware. They might be able to use their current license key, if they tie to to a Microsoft account, allowing them to use it on the new rig. If not, I would just run windows unlicensed until money was available to get a license, to remove the semi annoying watermark and unlock customization features.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 9900X 4.4 GHz 12-Core Processor ($409.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock B850 Pro RS ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland Performance Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Inland Performance Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($97.75 @ Amazon)
Custom: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 ($47.90)
Total: $1032.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 12:49 EST-0500
 
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In my opinion, this is the best option right now for any production focused build. The 265k will beat or match any non-9950x CPU for such tasks and the x890 motherboards come with so many more and better features than the AMD B850, or X870 motherboards. Personally, I would just get a decent 2TB NVMe SSD for now and add more NVMe storage later if you need the space. You can always transfer over files from the OS drive to a more bulk storage drive when you get one. 64 GB of fast RAM will also keep your PC relevant for another decade or more. I also hit the budget on the nose at less than 1000.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor ($359.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z890 LiveMixer WiFi ATX LGA1851 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $995.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:44 EST-0500
 
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In my opinion, this is the best option right now for any production focused build. The 265k will beat or match any non-9950x CPU for such tasks and the x890 motherboards come with so many more and better features than the AMD B850, or X870 motherboards. Personally, I would just get a decent 2TB NVMe SSD for now and add more NVMe storage later if you need the space. You can always transfer over files from the OS drive to a more bulk storage drive when you get one. 64 GB of fast RAM will also keep your PC relevant for another decade or more. I also hit the budget on the nose at less than 1000.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor ($359.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z890 LiveMixer WiFi ATX LGA1851 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $995.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:44 EST-0500
That's the build right there. ^^
 
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In my opinion, this is the best option right now for any production focused build. The 265k will beat or match any non-9950x CPU for such tasks and the x890 motherboards come with so many more and better features than the AMD B850, or X870 motherboards. Personally, I would just get a decent 2TB NVMe SSD for now and add more NVMe storage later if you need the space. You can always transfer over files from the OS drive to a more bulk storage drive when you get one. 64 GB of fast RAM will also keep your PC relevant for another decade or more. I also hit the budget on the nose at less than 1000.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core Ultra 7 265K 3.9 GHz 20-Core Processor ($359.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z890 LiveMixer WiFi ATX LGA1851 Motherboard ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $995.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:44 EST-0500

My only concern would be ram clearance with the cooler, but with their case, the fan should have room to move up and clear. I would spend the extra $10 on this SSD, though. 6yr warranty and has a dram cache.

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Inland Performance Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $129.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 14:03 EST-0500
 
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My only concern would be ram clearance with the cooler, but with their case, the fan should have room to move up and clear. I would spend the extra $10 on this SSD, though. 6yr warranty and has a dram cache.

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Inland Performance Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $129.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 14:03 EST-0500
That patriot viper kit is pretty low profile. I have built with it and that cooler, and it fits snuggly underneath that phantom spirit cooler fan. I am not aware of that particular SSD, but that seems like a no brainer for another 10 dollars, especially because of the Dram cache it has. Normally for the next step up SSD I recommend is the Crucial T500 for about 140 in the 2TB flavor. Seems like that drive may be my new recommend at 10+ dollars less if the price remains stable. Thanks for the heads up!
 
im in uk .so i cant check usa prices, but i can remommed some suggestions and you can check usa prices.

id say

cpu.== ryzen am5 7700/7700x
cpu cooler.== 240mm+ AIO (minimum)
motherboard.== any b650 with 4 ram slots
psu.== possible upgrade it the current one is more that 3 years old.
ram== ddr5 2x32gb 6000mt+
case.== keep case if it will fit new parts(most likely it will work)
hard drive== 1tb nvme or 1tb SSD
new windows OS.== just clone your windows 10 to new drive and it should offer FREE update to win 11..
GPU.== nvidia 3060(even a 2060), or and rx 6600(or rx5700xt). to get you going and upgrade in few months when gpu prices drop...

this should all be achievable for under $900 if you look on (amazon usa. )
 
excellent discussion, thanks again to everyone for their time!

I dont see video cards on the list from Helper800 and logainofhades though?
 
We both recommend waiting for graphics cards that are very soon to release so we cannot link to them yet.
Not looking for the latest and greatest here. Music production and casual gaming. The cards coming out soon are half the budget up to double the budget.

Replacing a 560Ti, yeah, AMD APU or integrated graphics is enough to do that.

But Photoshop can actually take advantage of GPU power for filters and the like, so it is a nice to have.

Not a perfect comparison:

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/...00-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060-12GB-vs-Intel-Arc-B580

But you can see that 3060 has a bit more compute power than the others. Coupled with 12GB of VRAM. Not sure how well the B580 plays with software just yet, and they are hard to come by right now.

RTX 4060 has even more compute but with only 8GB of VRAM, and quite a high price of $300. If I was getting 8GB, probably get an RX 7600 for the money ($250)