Question New build wont post Gigabyte B650M Gaming Plus wifi , AMD Ryzen 5 7600X CPU, 32GB T-Force RGB DDR5. Need help!

[Notmiserable]

This is what I got
Case is Fractal Design Focus G Mid-Tower Case

Motherboard is
Gigabyte B650M Gaming Plus wifi.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X CPU
Memory: 32GB T-Force RGB DDR5
Cooler for CPU is Arctic Freezer 36
Graphics card : Geforce GTX 550 Ti (I plan to upgrade later).
Power Supply: Seasonic Model SSR-500GB

I got it all together. I hooked up CPU power, motherboard power connector, and the Geforce GTX 550Ti power connector, but no post. I'm not really using this for gaming so much, so I don't need the latest and greatest graphics card. The memory upgrade is good enough for me alone, coming from a computer that I had from 2011, this is a major upgrade.

When I turn it on, nothing happens. The memory sticks glow, and all the fans turn on. It seems they are moving too slowly. So I thought it was the power supply at first. So I tried 3 different power supplies. This first one I already listed. The second one is a Silencer 500 EPS12V. Both are 500 watts the silencer is older but has a lot more amps on the rails. Then I still thought it was the power supply.

So I went out and bought a RM850e corsair thinking the computer needed more watts; otherwise, it wouldn't post. All three had the same results. Very slow fans, no post. No beep noises, no anything.

So I decided to try even an older graphics card and got no results. I got this as a combo deal. So I don't want to let it go and return it just yet.

I'm getting the same results. Any ideas what's going on? No beep codes at all. Just no post. It's almost like it's so quiet it's not running. But it does turn on.

 

[DRagor]

FYI your GPU will probably not be 'detected' by your motherboard before Windows installs NVidia drivers. So when you install it back leave monitor connected to motherboard, allow Windows to download and install drivers and only after that you'll be able to use it normally.

 

[Hotrod2go]

Is it possible that when I used that older gpu it went for external rather than internal? Now it wont even boot up my internal even though I got it hooked up through the HDMI port on the motherboard I/O ? Maybe something got screwed up. I did take the GPU out.


Update: Maybe I do have to wait 10 mins. At least it's not shutting off. Hmm, I never heard of this. It's been more than 30 mins and still nothing.

Okay I finally got it to boot. I waited 40 mins and shut off the computer and turned it on and it got posted.

If your sure you've updated the bios the latest non beta release, the board will only pick between an iGPU or a dGPU - not going to try detect "external" gpu - at least that's all I've seen on my 3 B650 boards I have here & different brands each of them as well.
So in the end you answered your own question with it posted! great so a display is showing on your monitor then?

 

[steveb1976]

did you get the computer sorted?
even with an old graphics card. it will boot into bios (as its not using nvidia drivers at that point). but you would need to set your system to boot in "csm compatability" and drivers to "legacy" (it should be in the "boot drive listing) this will also sort the "hard drive not showing up as a bootable drive.." issue.

 

[Notmiserable]

did you get the computer sorted?
even with an old graphics card. it will boot into bios (as its not using nvidia drivers at that point). but you would need to set your system to boot in "csm compatability" and drivers to "legacy" (it should be in the "boot drive listing) this will also sort the "hard drive not showing up as a bootable drive.." issue.

Not really. So is the Geforce GTX 550 Ti better than the internal APU? Because I'm having problems with Firefox with garbled text, if hardware acceleration is enabled.

The drivers I'm using is "[24.10.24.240625]" Oct 16, 2024 from the gigabyte website. So they are up to date.

I think the Geforce GTX 550 is still slightly better I'm not sure.


The internal AMD Radeon card only has
512 MBytes GPU memory
Clocks
GFX Core 600 MHz
Shader/SoC 12000 MHz
Memory 2600 MHZ

The Geforce GTX 550 is old and I didn't really want to put it in there. I'm not sure why I can't run firefox with hardware acceleration mode enabled. I think the solution was to install updated drivers but they are updated. Maybe I will use the geforce.

 

[steveb1976]

your radeon internal graphics will be better that the nvidia 550ti...
all you need to do is get into bios. then do to advance and look for the "igpu" options, they might be set to auto. click it, and select "force" , this will open menu below where you can tell the gpu how much memory to allocate to the GPU. make sure you have atleast 4gb spare for your operatiing system.. so for example you have 32gb ddr ram.. so you can allocate ideally 16gb max to the gpu.. this will keep you playing most games until you upgrade graphics card..


the other issue you might be having is that the bios is not detecting your nvidia card as its older (called Legacy card). for the bios/uefi to detect it, you need to go into boot section on bios and select "legacy" on bootable drvies. (its probably set to "uefi" but you might have option for "uefi and legacy" ..

 

[Notmiserable]

your radeon internal graphics will be better that the nvidia 550ti...
all you need to do is get into bios. then do to advance and look for the "igpu" options, they might be set to auto. click it, and select "force" , this will open menu below where you can tell the gpu how much memory to allocate to the GPU. make sure you have atleast 4gb spare for your operatiing system.. so for example you have 32gb ddr ram.. so you can allocate ideally 16gb max to the gpu.. this will keep you playing most games until you upgrade graphics card..


the other issue you might be having is that the bios is not detecting your nvidia card as its older (called Legacy card). for the bios/uefi to detect it, you need to go into boot section on bios and select "legacy" on bootable drvies. (its probably set to "uefi" but you might have option for "uefi and legacy" ..

Ahh, yes, that worked. I do have more memory now, according to task manager. It was set to auto. It opened up UMA. I gave it 8 GB of memory in the bios. It does go up to 16GB. You don't recommend the last setting? I think that is max. Good, so now I don't have to use the old Geforce.

The only problem that remains is firefox still has garbled text on hardware acceleration, performance mode, which is the best for firefox. Is this a firefox bug? Or is this an issue where AMD is got to fix it on the drivers, so it's the graphics?


In task manager it does state my Driver version: 32.0.11024.2. Which seems to be different version of what I downloaded on the Gigabyte site.

 

[steveb1976]

some motherboards restrict the amount of ram to use for integrated. it will normally allow you to do a max of about half the ram. but as long as you leave enough to run basic windows systems with the rest . you can check and see what works best for you..(in principle more the better).

as for the firefox. i cant help with that. as i use "BRAVE". and dont have any issues. but you could check if "hardware acceleration is on in firefox settings. if not turn it on, if its on ,turn it off. and see if that helps. also check if there is software update for firefox. or try another explores. like Brave, duckduckgo, google, and see if the issue happens on them as well.,. in which case it could be an amd compatability issue.

 

[Notmiserable]

some motherboards restrict the amount of ram to use for integrated. it will normally allow you to do a max of about half the ram. but as long as you leave enough to run basic windows systems with the rest . you can check and see what works best for you..(in principle more the better).

as for the firefox. i cant help with that. as i use "BRAVE". and dont have any issues. but you could check if "hardware acceleration is on in firefox settings. if not turn it on, if its on ,turn it off. and see if that helps. also check if there is software update for firefox. or try another explores. like Brave, duckduckgo, google, and see if the issue happens on them as well.,. in which case it could be an amd compatability issue.

Well, here is the thing. I just went to AMD's website to look for drivers to see if they were different than the ones on gigabyte.

I went to the support page. Choose chipsets AM5 and then choose B650 and downloaded that chipset version. But apparently when I run it said everything was update and already installed, perhaps from the Gigabyte website

AMD I2C Driver version 1.2.0.126
AMD GPIO Driver Version 2.2.0.134
AMD PSP Driver Version 5.3.4.0.0
AMD SMBus Driver Version 5.12.0.44
AMD PPM Provisioning File Driver Version 8.0.0.45

It claims all of these are up to date. I did some poking around on the AMD forums. Someone else was also having the same issue on a Ryzen 7700 iGPU (although it was a year ago on a previous firefox version). They mentioned a fix for it. It was These graphic options:

Radeon Anti-Lag on
Radeon Enhanced-Sync on
OpenGL Triple Buffering on

Well, I can't find this configuration on my graphics display settings. I must be missing software or drivers. Anybody know?

I thought Gigabyte would have software for configuring the graphics card on their website or it was supposed to be installed on the package.

This is what they have on the AMD website:
AMD Chipset Drivers 6.10.17.152

The last two are for RAID drivers. I'm not seeing the configuration software.

Maybe I forget to install Gigabyte Control center, that might be it. Nope no settings in there as well.

 

[Notmiserable]

Alright, I finally found the software I need to configure graphics.

It's called

AMD Software Adrenalin Edition 24.1.1

I probably would not have known about this software since it's not on gigabyte's drivers and it's not really listed under B650 on the amd drivers you are supposed to get. I just got it by someone mentioning the software from the forums. It's strange that they don't have it listed on Gigabyte, it's important software to configure advanced options for graphics. But they didn't make it easy to find or even mention it on the driver's page both Gigabyte and AMD. LOL.


I did change some settings but still I get garbled text on firefox. Radeon Anti-Lag on, Radeon enhanced sync on. Open GL on. Hmmm, this didn't seem to work.


"as for the firefox. i cant help with that. as i use "BRAVE". and dont have any issues. but you could check if "hardware acceleration is on in firefox settings. if not turn it on, if its on ,turn it off. and see if that helps."

I want hardware acceleration on. It works off the GPU. It's best for performance. I already know turning it off fixes the garbled text, sorry for the confusion. I'm trying to solve the issue and have it be fixed with this setting turned on.


Alright, I think I fixed the issue temporarily on firefox by going into about:config and changing

gfx.webrender.software

To true.

Hopefully that will be okay for now. No way, I'm not using my new computer without firefox. LOL

I will see how playback goes on videos while surfing the web.

 

[steveb1976]

in gigabyte site for your motherboard , under support. where you find chipset drivers there is a driver called "apu" (amd name for integrated graphics.. and recent chipset drivers.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650M-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI-rev-1x/support#support-dl-driver-chipset

 

[steveb1976]

if you have 32gb ram installed. and you use 16gb for the internal graphics. the computer will use the remainder (16gb for windows, and apps you install..)
if you was using your graphics card. 550ti then windows would have access to all 32gb. .

that why when you hear people say window needs a certain amount or memory to run it(its the minimum.).

with integrated graphics.. the more memory you have for it and windows the better.. you will be ok..