[SOLVED] New build

[Dave__C]

Purpose is partly gaming with MS Flight Sim 2020 (coming later this year) and partly Photo and video editing. For photos, it would be large DSLR files. For videos 4K.

My proposed build is: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNkRhg

Photo editing can drive a lot of threads while Flight sim can push the GPU a bit though they're saying ideal GPU spec is an RTX 2080 with Ryzen 7.

Ideally, I would like to run 3 monitors at 1440, but I just don't know if that's practical even with the 2080 Ti.

For monitor, Im getting an Acer Predator 27" Class UHD G-Sync X Model: XB273K I think the G-Sync feature is pretty important with this GPU.

I'm OK with the 2080 Ti being updated later this year. If the replacement is really compelling, then I'll get one and give the 2080 Ti to my son.

I was seriously considering the 3950x over the 3900x, but decided it wouldn't likely make that much difference for gaming, but I might be rethinking that for photo editing.

Comments welcome.

 

[jeremyj_83]

Changed some things. The Ryzens like faster RAM. The EVGA G5 isn't very good, especially for its price. The cooler you choose is OK, but for not a lot of extra money the BeQuiet is a lot better. Don't need the Anti-Virus as Windows Defender plus Malwarebytes is better.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($432.41 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 3 CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1099.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ATX Mid Tower Case ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Thermaltake CHALLENGER PRIME Wired Gaming Keyboard ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse ($17.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2710.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-28 23:55 EDT-0400
When it comes time for the monitor look at a 3440x1440 monitor. The added width makes a huge difference in flight simulators.

 

[velocityg4]

This'll do better. There's not much use for the 3950x. Photo editing won't matter. Besides perhaps a handful of filters in photoshop. It won't use many cores. Video editing would matter.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($432.41 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Macho Rev.B 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Crucial Ballistix RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($185.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($199.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1099.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ATX Mid Tower Case ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Kingston HyperX Alloy Elite RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($70.99 @ Best Buy)
Mouse: Corsair Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse ($17.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2552.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-28 23:57 EDT-0400

Avira is a much better AV. Actually the MS one does quite well now.

Comparison

www.av-comparatives.org

 

[Dave__C]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little bit skeptical of the alternative memories if I'm not overclocking. Is there really likely to be any difference there?

I wasn't aware that Microsoft actually has a viable anti-virus solution now. I've been totally in the Apple world for the past 10 years. I've had multiple Macs throughout that time and absolutely never had even a care about viruses. Now I'm jumping back into the PC world simply because Flight simulator is only on PC. But I must admit it's more fun to configure a PC than a Mac. But I suspect it will be far more frustrating keeping it running.

 

[Hellfire13]

First things first. You will need a lot more than just the PC for Flight Sim...
https://hangar.flights/guides/flight-simulator-student-pilots

Next, both your flight sim and editing will need all the cores you can offer. Besides, if you have a solid platform, it should last you longer too.
Remember, flight sim specially needs a fast PC, and Ryzen performs best with fast RAM. The sweet spot is 3600mhz CL16...
https://premiumbuilds.com/ram/best-ram-for-ryzen-3000/

Also, if you are not in a hurry, there are tons of new hardware coming in the next couple of months, specially next gen. Intel processors...
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/future-hardware-releases/


This should be better...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor | $722.41 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler | $89.90 @ B&H
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard | $299.00 @ B&H
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $159.99 @ Amazon
Storage | HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $146.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card | $1099.99 @ Newegg
Case | Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case | $104.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $119.99 @ Best Buy
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $109.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard | Thermaltake CHALLENGER PRIME Wired Gaming Keyboard | $29.98 @ Amazon
Mouse | Logitech G402 Wired Optical Mouse | $26.49 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2909.71
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-29 06:26 EDT-0400 |

 

[jeremyj_83]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little bit skeptical of the alternative memories if I'm not overclocking. Is there really likely to be any difference there?

I wasn't aware that Microsoft actually has a viable anti-virus solution now. I've been totally in the Apple world for the past 10 years. I've had multiple Macs throughout that time and absolutely never had even a care about viruses. Now I'm jumping back into the PC world simply because Flight simulator is only on PC. But I must admit it's more fun to configure a PC than a Mac. But I suspect it will be far more frustrating keeping it running.

Even if you aren't overclocking, Ryzens love RAM speed. The 3000 series has guaranteed support to at least DDR4-3200MHz. After that it is memory overclocking via the XMP profile and silicon lottery comes into play. However, I have never heard of someone not being able to run DDR4-3600MHz with a 3000 series on either a B450, X470, or X570 motherboard. Photo editing doesn't need a lot of CPU grunt but video editing can take everything you throw at it. Here are the minimum and recommended system requirements for Adobe Premier Pro 2020. Windows Defender is actually very good, is not resource heavy, and since it is included in the OS it doesn't offer a new attack vector.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($722.41 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1099.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ATX Mid Tower Case ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: ViewSonic Elite XG350R-C 35.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech G610 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.72 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse ($25.36 @ Amazon)
Total: $3948.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-29 08:30 EDT-0400
I added a monitor that is a good gaming ultrawide.

 

[Hellfire13]

However, I have never heard of someone not being able to run DDR4-3600MHz with a 3000 series on either a B450, X470, or X570 motherboard.

That speed only works on X570 and MSI MAX B450 boards. On rest of them, it scales down to default maximum board speed.

 

[Dave__C]

Thanks all. Will update. Regarding the other stuff for flight sim. Yes indeed. The money pit wil grow. :-(

 

[Dave__C]

I think I'll go with the last recommendation.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($722.41 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card ($1099.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ATX Mid Tower Case ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($150.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: ViewSonic Elite XG350R-C 35.0" 3440x1440 100 Hz Monitor ($659.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech G610 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.72 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Harpoon RGB Wired Optical Mouse ($25.36 @ Amazon)
Total: $3948.38


Thanks for all the help!