New Cat 6 install not working

[tomtheappraiser]

I recently was redoing my house and decided to install Cat 7 while the walls were open. I ran out towards the end, with the only remaining runs being to a bar in the basement and to the laundry room. I had bought some UTP underground unshielded cat 6 that I had intended to use to run to my garage. I figured that it wouldn't matter if I used the Cat 6 indoors for those two rooms.
Well, when I got them hooked up with Cat 6 keystones, they don't show any network connection. I tried switching out to some old Cat 5e jacks, still nothing. I used the same Cat 6 jacks on my Cat 7 runs and they work just fine.
I thought maybe I needed Cat 6 patch cords so I made a couple of them, but still nothing worked. In fact, when I tested the patch cords on the Cat 7 working network, they wouldn't work either. In fact, the Cat 5 patch cords work fine on my Cat 7 part of the network, but not the Cat 6.
I checked to make sure both sides were wired right using the 'B' diagram.
What am I missing here?
I don't have any networking testing tools, so I was just plugging a laptop into the jack to see if it got a connection. I made sure the patch cable I used (Cat 5e) was working on my Cat 7 network before I tested the laptop.

Here's what I am using:
Cat 6 wiring: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171338915033

Keystone Jacks: http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105&cp_id=10513&cs_id=1051309&p_id=5383&seq=1&format=2

Router: Rosewill RNX-Easy N4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166042

 

[bill001g]

The huge warning should be CCA.

That is the first box I have ever seen that tries to claim tia/eia cert for CCA wire. Everything I have seen says it will not even pass cat5e certs especially near max distance. There is no way this will even come close to cat6 standards.....where you can run 10g at short distance.

It will work at short distances but very technically if you do not actually certify it with a meter yourself you do not really know how well it will work under load.

It is strange it does not work at all. Most times it will come up but you get errors at load.

This is very suspect cable to try to claim it meets the eia/tia standard, they likely only conform to part of it.

 

[Alabalcho]

Get a simple LAN tester first, and check whether you have connectivity over the cable with keystones attached. I have seen some RJ45 jacks which make poor (or no connection) between the wire and the pin. Another problem, as Bill001g mentioned, could be the cable - if the diameter of the wire is off by just a little, it won't make the contact.

 

[tomtheappraiser]

I'm picking one up today. Thanks guys

 

[tomtheappraiser]

I went ahead and got a LAN tester (specifically, this one: http://www.sperryinstruments.com/en/tt64202)
I tested both of the Cat 6 runs. The one by the bar showed all the lights except 1 & 2 so I punched down the orange wires a little more and all lights lit up. I connected my laptop and...SUCCESS!
The one by the workbench showed NO lights at all. So I switched out the keystone jacks, got 2 lights, punched them down again and finally got all lights lit up.
However, I still am not getting ANY network or internet connection.
Do you think it's the wire?

 

[casper1973]

If all pins are lighting up in the correct sequence, and you have re-terminated several times with different keystones, I would consider this a cable problem. The physical connection is there but most likely too weak or too much interference for a stable connection to be made.

This might sound stupid at first... but if possible I would cut the cable around half way down. Put a keystone on there and test again. If it's poor quality cable, reducing the distance might be enough to make it work. I realise this isn't going to resolve anything but it will let you know the cable is at fault.

It's already been said but just to reiterate - any cable consisting of CCA is not a genuine CAT6 cable as it can't possibly meet the TIA/EIA specifications. This also applies to CAT5e and CAT5.


Also, just for reference - a lot of people also get caught out with stranded cable. It's cheaper than solid core and more flexible so easier to deploy. Double win??
NO. Stranded cable is only intended for use as patch cables. The 100m maximum distance for CAT5e/CAT6 is based on 90m of solid core plus 10m of stranded wire. If you attempt running stranded cable more than 20-30m you are asking for problems.