New Charges Brought Against Sarah Palin's Hacker

[tayb]

[citation][nom]jabliese[/nom]To all the "it's not a hack" people, if you find a car with the doors unlocked, and the keys in it, does that mean it's not stealing to drive it away?Do not take things that are not yours, knuckleheads. That includes e-mail.[/citation]

Not the same scenario but if something like that were to happen the insurance company wouldn't pay you a dime for any damage done. Stupidity isn't one of the things covered.

 

[turboflame]

This is stupid, if he didn't do it somebody else would have eventually. There was nothing damaging found, so if anything it probably helped Palin in the campaign. Instead of the government using this incident to better educate their officials on security, they've gone after this kid to make an example out of him. He did something stupid and no one was hurt, he should be punished but this is overkill.

Using a password reset is not hacking. I'm guessing that they're charging him with obstruction of justice because he cleared his browser history after words. What a joke.

 

[Cuddles]

I remember this. The kid was an idiot. He got into her account and then went to a Public Forum and posted that he did so and put up her emails to show that he did so. The forum didn't take them down for about twelve hours. There wasn't anything bad in them but it was the issue at hand.
The analogy is almost correct except the thief would have had to use a Jimmy and hot wire the car then drive around showing his friends that he had just stolen the Principles car.
I love the "but he's just a kid". So what? Did he know what he was doing? Yes. Did he open her emails without her consent? Yes.
I also love how you guys think that the Goverment has tons of people just sitting around reading everyone's email. They use a program that looks for key words that are used in a certain path to trigger a second program to look at names and date. Then a third and a forth before it's sent to a person who then takes it to an expert for further study. It's kind of what is happening just I'm putting it in context on what you could understand. So as long as your not planning to blow up something or kill a bunch of people then the Goverment has no intrest in what you put in your email. Trust me... The Goverment doesn't care what you write. In level of importance your just not that special. Go to a terrorist training camp, send a bunch of emails claiming you want to die for Allah, and call your mom saying that you have the bombs ready, and you just might get your email looked at. Besides that your nothing special.
So the kid was an idiot. He got caught. Now he will have to pay for being caught. He was a dumb ass. Don't feel sorry for the dumb ass.

 

[tayb]

[citation][nom]Cuddles[/nom]I also love how you guys think that the Goverment has tons of people just sitting around reading everyone's email. They use a program that looks for key words that are used in a certain path to trigger a second program to look at names and date. Then a third and a forth before it's sent to a person who then takes it to an expert for further study. It's kind of what is happening just I'm putting it in context on what you could understand. So as long as your not planning to blow up something or kill a bunch of people then the Goverment has no intrest in what you put in your email. Trust me... The Goverment doesn't care what you write. In level of importance your just not that special. Go to a terrorist training camp, send a bunch of emails claiming you want to die for Allah, and call your mom saying that you have the bombs ready, and you just might get your email looked at. Besides that your nothing special.[/citation]

I'll quote you fourth amendment since you obviously haven't seen it or are unfamiliar with it. The part about probable cause BEFORE a search is executed should be noted.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Hey, it's cool with me if you don't mind having your basic rights to privacy violated in the name of national security. Great for you. The founding fathers, you know the ones who wrote the constitution and established this country, happened to think that having rights to privacy and DUE PROCESS were important and therefor placed them as the fourth amendment otherwise known as the BILL OF RIGHTS.

Idiots like you would throw it all away so you could enjoy an illusion of safety.

 

[Cuddles]

I just love it when people who have no idea what the hell they are talking about begin screaming about the Bill of Rights when they have no idea what they are getting themselves into. Let's begin shall we. The U.S. is setup in a Legislative, Executive, and Judicial Branch. The Legislative Branch create and change laws, the Executive Branch is supposed to enforce the laws, and guess what the Judicial Branch does? The Judicial Branch interpretes the law or in this case the Constitution of the U.S. So unless you are currently a Judge you cannot make an interpretation on the meaning of any of the Bill of Rights. What you can do is try to bring a case to the Judicial system if you feel one of your "rights" are violated. Unfortunatly for you a case was seen and heard by the Judicial system in which the way and manner the NSA conducted it's Intelligence Gathering was found not to be Unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the U.S.
Now that you know this you cannot scream "But my Bill of Rights!" because it was already found by the Court that it wasn't. When you begin to get into Case Law you begin to find out a lot of things. Like Roe vs Wade wasn't about Abortion but instead about the invasion of privacy.
The Constitution of the U.S. was written in a manner so that it could be interpreted by the Judicial System for any given period of time and thus change as the times dictated. Does this mean that what was found in 1920 will be changed today? No, in fact most times it won't be. Most cases have already been heard once before and when that happens the Judge usually defers to the Judgement of that prior case thus when a Judge does rule on anything it is setting a precedent. It is when a Judge tries to overrule an earlier case does things like appeals happen.
As of present there is currently 545 volumes of U.S. Reports and would take you at minimum 8 years of schooling and 20 years of service before you might be able to interpret any of the Bill of Rights and make a judgement on what they might mean.