New Computer Rig

[philrules3]

Hi,

This is my first computer build and I am only running from advise from you guys. Any advise is much appreciated in advance. I am looking to build a good gaming computer that doesnt break the bank. I have done some research and compiled my results to this:

CPU
Intel Core i5 4670k 3.4GHz

CPU Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard

Memory
Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory

Storage
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card
MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card

Case
Coolermaster CM690 II Lite with Coolermaster GX 650W PSU *Special Offer Bundle*

Fan
Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan

My questions are:
1. Will the motherboard be efficient enough
2. Do I require anything else for the build (I already have a monitor, old sound card and optical drive)

All help is very much appreciated.

Thanks

Phil

 

[AxlFone]

You can not use the Z-77 mobo with lga 1150 cpu like 4670k.
Get better mobo. Gigabyte X-D3H or UD3H
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xd3h
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xud3h

 

[philrules3]

Thanks for the mobo advice, are these the cheapest mobos available?
Does a mobo just connect everything up, is there any difference from a £100 one and a £500 one except that extra components could be hooked up?
If I was to buy all these parts, would they be compatible and do I need to purchase anything else like leads, connectors e.g.

Thanks

 

[philrules3]

I will also be looking to hook up two hard drives.

Thanks

 

[AxlFone]

If you want to buy mobo for just one year use. Then it is dine take cheapest one.
That gigabyte do have best VRM components and this means it will last long time.
Just lookk best mobo with connectors you need. Now remember look like usb ports and pci-e ports for video cards and for sound cards and so on.

Sure if you need just one video card place (no sli or cf) then you can take cheaper mobo.
This gigabyte is good for OC use. With desent cooler it can do a 4.6GHz with 4670k
You do not need leads or connectors. Mobo do come with 4 sata connectors.
So you can plug in one SSD + two HDD + DVD if you have more drives then buy sata cable.

 

[Sangeet Khatri]

1. No that board is incompatible with the LGA 1150 socket.

2. Yes, you also need a power supply to power everything up. The build cannot work without a power supply.

Also what is your overall budget that you are spending. I might be able to improve the parts and bring more performance for similar price.

 

[philrules3]

1. No that board is incompatible with the LGA 1150 socket.

2. Yes, you also need a power supply to power everything up. The build cannot work without a power supply.

Also what is your overall budget that you are spending. I might be able to improve the parts and bring more performance for similar price.

I have a budget of £800 but obviously the lower the better. I have now considered the following set up:

INTEL Core i5 4670K OC 4.2Ghz,
ASUS Z87-K,
16GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Crucial Ballistix Sport Memory
ThermalTake Contac21 Cooler
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card
Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan
Coolermaster CM690 II Lite with Coolermaster GX 650W PSU Bundle

http://www.amazon.co.uk/1600Mhz-Ballistix-ThermalTake-Contac21-OVERCLOCKED/dp/B00DREJOQ2/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1378831265&sr=1-1&keywords=Intel+Core+i5+4670K+16gb

http://www.ebuyer.com/220862-coolermaster-cm690-ii-lite-with-coolermaster-gx-650w-psu-special-offer-bundle-rc-692-kka3

This would cost me £785

Would there be enough cooling for this as there is a 14cm and a 12cm included with the case, a ThermalTake Contac21 Cooler with the amazon bundle and a separate purchase of a 12cm fan.....would this make it quite too?

I was hoping of connecting up my old monitor (non HD) and a new monitor, my old hard drive along with the new one.

Any cheaper parts would be great I do find find £785 without a new monitor rather expensive.

I will be looking to play games with high settings and generally surfing the web, steaming e.g.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

 

[tiny voices]

That PSU is trash. Get an antec, XFX, Corsair, Seasonic unit.

 

[AxlFone]

Or Rosewill capstone or Superflower Golden Green / King . Good units too.
Here you find some real quality.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aag/main?ie=UTF8&asin=&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&orderID=&seller=A3OGKN9Q7C0HV1

 

[Sangeet Khatri]

For 800 pounds, nothing beats this build.

+ 7970 kills the 760 (also has high overclocking potential)
+ Asus Z87-A is a beast for overclocking and has good features
+ Bitfenix Shinobi is an awesome case.
+ XFX 650W PSU is of very high quality and would leave headroom for future expansions and overclocking.
+ The hyper 212 can take the CPU to 4.2 Ghz

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£22.85 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£113.75 @ Aria PC)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.85 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£259.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£65.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.94 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £791.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-11 17:22 BST+0100)

I hope this helps. I don't think it is possible to include a better build for the same budget.

 

[AxlFone]

+ 7970 kills the 760 (also has high overclocking potential)

Do I need to say this? BullS**** 760 is based on a 780 chip.
Look scores. Read this: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_760_review,1.html

Is it really worth that money ? 2FPS faster!

Other one. 1FPS faster.

So where that is better?

 

[philrules3]

For 800 pounds, nothing beats this build.

+ 7970 kills the 760 (also has high overclocking potential)
+ Asus Z87-A is a beast for overclocking and has good features
+ Bitfenix Shinobi is an awesome case.
+ XFX 650W PSU is of very high quality and would leave headroom for future expansions and overclocking.
+ The hyper 212 can take the CPU to 4.2 Ghz

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£22.85 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£113.75 @ Aria PC)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.85 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£259.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£65.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.94 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £791.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-11 17:22 BST+0100)

I hope this helps. I don't think it is possible to include a better build for the same budget.

Thanks for the input it really helps he out as I am new to this. I have compared the two graphics and found this:
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7970-vs-GeForce-GTX-760

So I was thinking of this set up then?
Overclocked Core i5 4670K 4.2Ghz & ASUS Z87-K & 8GB DDR3 1600 CRUCIAL
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Overclocked-Core-i5-4670K-4-2Ghz-ASUS-Z87-K-8GB-DDR3-1600-CRUCIAL-/151076680119?pt=UK_Motherboards_CPUs&hash=item232cdf31b7
I get a discount from the retail price and the OC has been done along with the assembly, so that's less hassle.

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.85 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£259.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.90 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£65.58 @ Scan.co.uk)

Have optical drive, card readers e.g.

Total = £790.34 (without my discount for OC mobo bundle)

What do you think?

 

[Sangeet Khatri]

Well.. there are some concerns :

1. The Asus Z87-K is not the best board for overclocking purpose. I know it is decent but nowhere comparable to the Z87-A which I recommend for overclocking.

2. I do not suggest buying already overclocked chip because the temperature conditions under which they have overclocked might vary between you and the guys there who overclocked. Hence the system might turn out to be unstable when you put it on your case.

3. You can always get a good CPU Cooler and overclock it yourself and this is what I would recommend.

4. I recommend overclocking yourself as then you are aware of what you are doing and hence you can tune everything up to your own liking.

But if you feel that it would be fine for you then get it. But I really do not recommend the Asus Z87-K for overclocking. It was not designed for overclocking. The least I would recommend is the Asus Z87-A.

I hope this helps.

 

[philrules3]

Well.. there are some concerns :

1. The Asus Z87-K is not the best board for overclocking purpose. I know it is decent but nowhere comparable to the Z87-A which I recommend for overclocking.

2. I do not suggest buying already overclocked chip because the temperature conditions under which they have overclocked might vary between you and the guys there who overclocked. Hence the system might turn out to be unstable when you put it on your case.

3. You can always get a good CPU Cooler and overclock it yourself and this is what I would recommend.

4. I recommend overclocking yourself as then you are aware of what you are doing and hence you can tune everything up to your own liking.

But if you feel that it would be fine for you then get it. But I really do not recommend the Asus Z87-K for overclocking. It was not designed for overclocking. The least I would recommend is the Asus Z87-A.

I hope this helps.

Ok I am thinking of the build that you recommend. How hard is it to overclock yourself? Also how long do you think that the OC CPU would last for. I would aim to get the CPU to run at lower temps.

Thanks for your help Sangeet Khatri.

 

[Sangeet Khatri]

Overclocking is not that difficult. Of course it requires some basic knowledge about FSB, Memory clocks and CPU Multipliers and stuff, but it can be easily understood by any guide online.

The basic thing is that you have to increase the clock speeds of the CPU by changing some settings and still keeping it stable.

I am not sure if I would be able to explain it to you here, but I would recommend reading this article here. It explains everything very simply. Of course you need some knowledge to do that. But it is just one time.

Also chances of damaging are very low as computer shuts itself down as soon as the temperatures go very high, so it would remain cool no matter what. You just don't have to go crazy upping the voltages to achieve stability. Just be careful.

Edit : Oops.. forgot to share the link, here it is http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1804 . I hope this helps.

 

[philrules3]

Thank you you have been such a help. I will post on here when I purchase my build.