[SOLVED] New Cooler, New Problems Part II

[SubGTX]

Hello all I recently bought the MA410M and one of you guys said it was too small for my CPU and/+ overclock. So I decided to go with Water Cooling because I read all the time about overclockers with water cooling. And how the WC helps with keeping their CPU's cool. I'm not a extreme overclocker but I love the performance. I have been doing it for about 10 plus years and know/learned a lot about it.

CPU still reaches high Temp. - 80 C. Better then 90+C
MB temp. has gone down though from 76-58 C

So when i attach a fully functional, brand spanking new WC to my CPU, damn it, I expect better results then what I got.

Guys, please right me back if you wanna know more.

 

[MeanMachine41]

Please list your full system specs and the cooler being used.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

if you wanna know more...

temperatures depend on what exact CPU you have,
what exact cooler you have,
what case you have,
what make & model fans you have, their positioning, their orientation,
what motherboard you have,
the room's ambient temperature,
where this system is located(cabinet, floor, desktop, etc).

what temperature you should be seeing and what is possible all depend on these separate details.

 

[SubGTX]

My system:
OS - Windows 11
Case -
anidees AI Crystal XL RGB V3 Full Tower
CPU - 9900k 8C 16T (1530MHz OC)
CPU Cooler - MSI MPG CORELIQUID K360
GPU - MSI Tri-Frozr 2080 ti
RAM/Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro
MB - MSI MEG Z390 ACE
PSU - EVGA 1300 Fully Modular

 

[MeanMachine41]

80C is not a high temperature when the system is under load and your cooler is working fine.
Junction Temperature or T/J MAX = 100C which is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor die.
9900k processers can turbo boost to 5Ghz and many will sustain an all core frequency at 5Ghz depending on cooler and the specimen CPU.

You have no issue regarding core temp. 👍😀

 

[SkyNetRising]

anidees AI Crystal XL RGB V3 Full Tower

How many fans in the system?
Can you show photos of your pc (with and without side panel) ?
(upload to imgur.com and post link)

 

[Multyspeed]

Do you reach 80C using benchmark or in gaming ?
What's the voltage ?
Mine 9700K at 5.1GHz and 1.3V is reaching mid 70 with custom loop, 240mm and 360mm rads.
So, your temp is just fine.

 

[jnxzi94]

For me that temperature of 80 to 90 C sounds a bit absurd. I'm running Intel i9 10850K @ 5 GHz (~1.27v) and under full load the temperature stays on 60 C average. I'm using a Kraken X63 AIO cooler and if the CPU isn't pushing itself to 100 % usage, the temperature never goes above 60 C, mostly not even above 55 C. This is just a preference for you, but I wouldn't accept such a high temperature for that CPU...

 

[SubGTX]

80C is not a high temperature when the system is under load and your cooler is working fine.
Junction Temperature or T/J MAX = 100C which is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor die.
9900k processers can turbo boost to 5Ghz and many will sustain an all core frequency at 5Ghz depending on cooler and the specimen CPU.

You have no issue regarding core temp. 👍😀

I have no issue reguarding temp? Cause 80C really had me worried, like, "I paid a lot for this cooler now I gotta return it."

 

[SubGTX]

Do you reach 80C using benchmark or in gaming ?
What's the voltage ?
Mine 9700K at 5.1GHz and 1.3V is reaching mid 70 with custom loop, 240mm and 360mm rads.
So, your temp is just fine.

Using it in games.
Voltage is about 1.43, yes, a little high I know, but it stays very well at it's current speed - 5.129GHz

 

[SubGTX]

How many fans in the system?
Can you show photos of your pc (with and without side panel) ?
(upload to imgur.com and post link)

Altogether about 13
Give me a day or 2 and I'll be happy to post photos

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

I have no issue reguarding temp? Cause 80C really had me worried, like, "I paid a lot for this cooler now I gotta return it."

i'd say your current temperatures are normal for that much voltage.

how much time did you put into discovering the necessary voltage for your current speed?
1.43v seems very high for only ~5.1Ghz, even with a 9th gen chip.
my 11700K is doing 5.2GHz with 1.335v and never passes 62°C in the most demanding games, usually hovering in the high 50s.

drop your clocks to ~4.8/4.9GHz and lower the voltage as much as possible if you really want much better temps.

 

[SubGTX]

i'd say your current temperatures are normal for that much voltage.

how much time did you put into discovering the necessary voltage for your current speed?
1.43v seems very high for only ~5.1Ghz, even with a 9th gen chip.
my 11700K is doing 5.2GHz with 1.335v and never passes 62°C in the most demanding games, usually hovering in the high 50s.

drop your clocks to ~4.8/4.9GHz and lower the voltage as much as possible if you really want much better temps.

Well when I started OCing this CPU I was at 4.2 - 4.3GHz, from there I started my voltage at 1.2 and as I clocked it up I would only use .1 Volts at a time. Meaning I would use that little voltage amount each time I would up CPU frequency 50MHz at a time. The whole process took hours, was it worth it? Hell yes.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

I started my voltage at 1.2 and as I clocked it up I would only use .1 Volts at a time...
I would use that little voltage amount each time I would up CPU frequency 50MHz at a time

you definitely don't have to raise the voltage each time you raise the core clocks,
just stress testing with each incremental core update and only raising the voltage when proving unstable.

and .1v is a large jump to make each time.
i would keep it at .02 / .025v with each incremental voltage increase.

many find much lower voltages will work fine with higher clocks, depending on the silicon of each chip.
my old 8700K runs 5GHz with 1.27v.

 

[SubGTX]

you definitely don't have to raise the voltage each time you raise the core clocks,
just stress testing with each incremental core update and only raising the voltage when proving unstable.

and .1v is a large jump to make each time.
i would keep it at .02 / .025v with each incremental voltage increase.

many find much lower voltages will work fine with higher clocks, depending on the silicon of each chip.
my old 8700K runs 5GHz with 1.27v.

I know, but each and every time passed 4.32GHz I'd boot up into Windows, reach the desktop, seconds after seeing this the PC would blue screen. So I had to use more voltage at a time, .3 at a time, I have tried lowering the voltages but they just didn't work, blue screens and freezes all over the place.

My CPU just loves the volts more then the speed, because it's been running with high voltage + the overclock for 3 or 4 years.

 

[MeanMachine41]

I know, but each and every time passed 4.32GHz I'd boot up into Windows, reach the desktop, seconds after seeing this the PC would blue screen. So I had to use more voltage at a time, .3 at a time, I have tried lowering the voltages but they just didn't work, blue screens and freezes all over the place.

My CPU just loves the volts more then the speed, because it's been running with high voltage + the overclock for 3 or 4 years.

Overclocking and running a high core voltage for 3-4 years is a perfect scenario to diminish CPU performance which is not recoverable.

After all that has been discussed and from your description, bring the system back to default at 3.6Ghz and reduce core voltage to 1.25V.
Start your OC again and only increase voltage in .01V steps to achieve stability. .3V is way too high and frequency jumps via the multiplier should be done 200Mhz at a time between stress testing. It will determine what life is left in your CPU.
Use AIDA64 for stress testing.

 

[Multyspeed]

1.43V for 9900K it's too high IMO. You should set it to 5.0GHz and 1.350V and try lowering the voltage. Those 100MHz (5.1GHz) makes no difference.