Build Advice New DAW build

timboalogo

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Hi to the helpful folks here,

I'm building a new DAW for my home-based music studio, currently working on a 5 year old i5 that's slow as molasses. I'm trying to decide how to best use my $$ to build a Canadian system for under $2K Cdn (about 1500 or so US).

Thinking that the most important facet for me would be the loading of 1) audio files from disk and 2) loading and running VST2 and VST3 "programs" from memory (these are effects like reverb etc or actual software synthesizers), the best I can figure is that I need to have the OS, DAW program and VSTs running from SSD drives, so I've come up with a couple of possible configs. Is there an advantage to spend nearly $200 more to get a 13th gen i9 ... is the memory ok?

My research says the MOBO isn't super important, what I want is fast loading of audio and software from memory, as well as the ability to run the DAW software with many VST effects and synths loaded on 30-40 audio tracks without the typical crackling sounds that tell you the system is being overpowered by everything that has been loaded.

The one thing I haven't mentioned is a case. It has to be quiet so the microphones don't pick up the sounds and I have NO idea about how many cooling fans I'd need for these heat generating processors and noise from the fans.

Here's what I have so far, could anyone lend assistance for this and anything I may have missed? Thanks in advance, Timbo.

Intel Core i9-12900K Desktop Processor 16 (8P+8E) Cores, 24 Threads up to 5.2 GHz, Unlocked LGA1700 600 Series Chipset 125W, Support DDR4 & 5, PCIe Gen 5.0, 12th Gen Boxed (BX8071512900K)

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Intel Core i9-13900K Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) 36M Cache, up to 5.8 GHz, 125W, unlocked, LGA1700 700 & 600 chipset, PCIe 5&4, DDR5&4, 13th Gen Boxed BX8071513900K
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GIGABYTE Z690 AERO G DDR4 LGA 1700 Intel Z690 ATX Motherboard with DDR4, Quad M.2, PCIe 5.0, USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C, WiFi 6, Intel 2.5 GbE LAN
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Crucial P3 Plus 2TB M.2 PCIe4.0x4 NVMe 2280 SSD Read: 5000MB/s; Write:3600MB/s (CT2000P3PSSD8)
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CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL18 Black Desktop Memory (CMW32GX4M2D3600C18)
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I noticed that you want to go with a white themed build?

The ram would be covered ny the cooler, so going for a low profile fast rams.

Something like this would suite you perhaps?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($549.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($72.64 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($259.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($88.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($174.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: ASRock Intel Arc A380 Challenger ITX Arc A380 6 GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Deepcool CK560 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($130.75 @ Vuugo)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster AE-7 32-bit 384 kHz Sound Card ($279.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1976.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-02 04:04 EDT-0400
 
^ Yes, you do need dedicated Audio interface for recording, but you also need quality sound output that is better than the the built-in mobo audio chip.

I was under the impression that OP has his own audio related parts that could be reused with the new system.

To cut cost, i would rather skip the GPU and use the built in iGPU and HDMI connections.
 
^ Yes, you do need dedicated Audio interface for recording, but you also need quality sound output that is better than the the built-in mobo audio chip.

I was under the impression that OP has his own audio related parts that could be reused with the new system.

To cut cost, i would rather skip the GPU and use the built in iGPU and HDMI connections.
The quality sound output will be generated BY the Audio Interface completely bypassing any internal soundcard.

If multiple displays will be used an inexpensive GPU will probably help a bit.
 

timboalogo

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Aug 26, 2021
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I noticed that you want to go with a white themed build?

The ram would be covered ny the cooler, so going for a low profile fast rams.

Something like this would suite you perhaps?

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($549.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 White ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($72.64 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Pro RS/D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($259.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($88.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($174.97 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: ASRock Intel Arc A380 Challenger ITX Arc A380 6 GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Deepcool CK560 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2022) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home OEM - DVD 64-bit ($130.75 @ Vuugo)
Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster AE-7 32-bit 384 kHz Sound Card ($279.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1976.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-02 04:04 EDT-0400
Thanks Lucky_SLS,

What did you mean by white-themed? Did I pick only white parts?

Among other things, I was hoping for a MOBO with WIFI. And for $20 more (569) I can get the i9, which also has onboard sound that complements my Komplete Audio recording setup. And a K series CPU already has the video onboard, doesn't it? So I thought I would try that rather than another $200 on a video card.

For some reason, I thought the CPU cooler would have been part of the CPU, so thanks for the great catch! As well as the power supply that I forgot about.
 

timboalogo

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Sorry, I missed a couple of replies:

Yes I'm good with cheepo onboard sound.

I'm worried about choosing a quiet case and I'm not at all up to date with cooling of both the CPU and the fans on the case so if anyone wants to chime in with ideas on that, I'd be very thankful.

Thanks,
Timbo
 

timboalogo

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I run an Advance 49 MIDI keyboard and several microphones and amplifiers through a Native Instruments Komplete Audio interface into a PC.

As I tried to say earlier, there is lots of software processing that goes on in a song of say 40 tracks, each loaded with several software effects. The fairly fast loading of already recorded audio files and samples is only somewhat of a priority when you open a song for editing. 32 gigs of RAM suffice for the memory side of the equation.

I wanted the SDD for the OS and music software to be loaded quickly
I want a superfast CPU to run the software without being overpowered by all the programs that are loaded
I have multi-TB SATA drives for the samples and audio files

Thanks for all your help folks,
Timbo
 
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